Itachi and nagato are at the same level

[alipjana]

nagato>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> itachi

this..xd

 

[Illyasviel]

They're almost the same level
put i can't find much sence in that their rinnengan and sharinga make madaras complete rinnengan-because i think that if you combine the sharingan and rinnengan in one eye you get the eye that the ten-teils has

 

[Ariow]

Itachi and Nagato are EQUALS.

 

[ninjastormgenaration33]

Itachi>Nagato FTW

 

[Uchicha Macho]

omg this is the battls of the fanboys itachi fanboys vs nagato fanboys this cycle will never end.

 

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Here we go again lol I just dont understand why people are deluded, Itachi would loose against the 6 Paths or Nagato himself. All of Itachi's main attacks can be countered-

1. Amaterasu - Manga has shown that Nagato can sense it and can be countered by Shinra Tensei.

2. Ninjutsu attacks- Can be absored by Preta Path. This includes Susano's Yasaka Magatama.

3. Complete/incomplete Susano- Susano is created from pure chakra of the user, therefore Preta Path comes in handy again. Another way to combat Susanoo would be Chibaku Tensei or Celestial Sphere, same thing. This would make Susanoo majestically float in the air leaving Itachi vulnerable from being pulled out by Bansho Tenin. Bear in mind that Susanoo takes up a lot of chakra and the users life as well, especially since Itachi is still only on MS, healthy or not. Nagato either way can also summon Gedo Mazo.

4. Yata Mirror and Sword of Totsuka- Yes they are legendary items but they can still be manipulated by gravity. Who isnt to say that Bansho Tenin can pull out the sword from the hand of Susanoo or knock it off by large scale Shinra Tensei? If you are going to say "Itachi 1 shotted Nagato" then could you please refresh my memory of the events that lead to that please? Its all speculations if your claiming the sword is fast.
Complete Susanoo with yata mirror & totsuka sword vs Gedo Mazo? Gedo Mazo is double the size of susanoo from the looks of it so it has incredible strength as seen from the manga, Gedo Mazo's attack is the soul sucking dragon thingy, which isnt chakra its a some sort of form therefore IMO Yata Mirror cant block it as it only blocks the five chakra elements. Totsuka sword stabbing Gedo Mazo to seal it? sure if it can land a stab on it. Even if it does stab, we dont know for sure if it can seal Gedo Mazo as its a summon statue. Yes I know its meant to "seal anything" it stabs but you cant take it literally. The sword of Kusanagi was meant to cut and pierce through anything as well.

5. Tsukuyomi- IMO this is the only main problem that Nagato would face as we're not sure whether Rinnegan has the advantage of resisting getting caught in a genjutsu. Itachi is intelligent but Nagato aint stupid either so I doubt he'd look Itachi in the eyes directly. If Itachi was facing the 6 paths then, the visual link would break the jutsu.

So there you go, almost all of Itachi's attacks can be countered but I dont think Itachi has any counters to most of Nagato's attack apart from staying inside his complete Susanoo, which is only good as his stamina in order to last, at the same time his eyes going blind.

 

[lanakau888]

Nagato is on a higher level than itachi.

Itachi doesn't have an answer to a number of nagato's attacks while nagato has a counter for:
Amaterasu-
preta path or shinra tensei
tsukuyomi-
shared vision
susanoo-
chibaku tensei/shinra tensei/preta path

And while nagato is dealing with any of these three moves, itachi will be dealing with missiles, lasers, boss summons, and shinra tensei.

 

[Miruto senpai]

Here we go again lol I just dont understand why people are deluded, Itachi would loose against the 6 Paths or Nagato himself. All of Itachi's main attacks can be countered-

1. Amaterasu - Manga has shown that Nagato can sense it and can be countered by Shinra Tensei.

2. Ninjutsu attacks- Can be absored by Preta Path. This includes Susano's Yasaka Magatama.

3. Complete/incomplete Susano- Susano is created from pure chakra of the user, therefore Preta Path comes in handy again. Another way to combat Susanoo would be Chibaku Tensei or Celestial Sphere, same thing. This would make Susanoo majestically float in the air leaving Itachi vulnerable from being pulled out by Bansho Tenin. Bear in mind that Susanoo takes up a lot of chakra and the users life as well, especially since Itachi is still only on MS, healthy or not. Nagato either way can also summon Gedo Mazo.

4. Yata Mirror and Sword of Totsuka- Yes they are legendary items but they can still be manipulated by gravity. Who isnt to say that Bansho Tenin can pull out the sword from the hand of Susanoo or knock it off by large scale Shinra Tensei? If you are going to say "Itachi 1 shotted Nagato" then could you please refresh my memory of the events that lead to that please? Its all speculations if your claiming the sword is fast.
Complete Susanoo with yata mirror & totsuka sword vs Gedo Mazo? Gedo Mazo is double the size of susanoo from the looks of it so it has incredible strength as seen from the manga, Gedo Mazo's attack is the soul sucking dragon thingy, which isnt chakra its a some sort of form therefore IMO Yata Mirror cant block it as it only blocks the five chakra elements. Totsuka sword stabbing Gedo Mazo to seal it? sure if it can land a stab on it. Even if it does stab, we dont know for sure if it can seal Gedo Mazo as its a summon statue. Yes I know its meant to "seal anything" it stabs but you cant take it literally. The sword of Kusanagi was meant to cut and pierce through anything as well.

5. Tsukuyomi- IMO this is the only main problem that Nagato would face as we're not sure whether Rinnegan has the advantage of resisting getting caught in a genjutsu. Itachi is intelligent but Nagato aint stupid either so I doubt he'd look Itachi in the eyes directly. If Itachi was facing the 6 paths then, the visual link would break the jutsu.

So there you go, almost all of Itachi's attacks can be countered but I dont think Itachi has any counters to most of Nagato's attack apart from staying inside his complete Susanoo, which is only good as his stamina in order to last, at the same time his eyes going blind.

Bold part: I recall that Itachi said that you need a sharingan I guess a rinnegan would be ok BUT he also said that you needed HE'S BLOOD TO COUNTER IT. That is why Nagato can't do anything against Tsukuyomi because he is NOT blood related to Itachi, do you get it?

 

[KazekageGeo]

God>SHIT ITACHI

 

[Miruto senpai]

God>SHIT ITACHI

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Bold part: I recall that Itachi said that you need a sharingan I guess a rinnegan would be ok BUT he also said that you needed HE'S BLOOD TO COUNTER IT. That is why Nagato can't do anything against Tsukuyomi because he is NOT blood related to Itachi, do you get it?

You clearly didnt read it properly..
1) I know how Tsukuyomi works
2) I said "we're not sure whether Rinnegan has the advantage of resisting getting caught in a genjutsu" this applies to healthy Nagato without the paths. Though he could just still use summons to distract Itachi into breaking the tsukuyomi, or are people now going to say he can use amaterasu and tsukuyomi at the same time?
3) The 6 paths have a visual link, if one path gets caught, do you think the rest will just stand there?

All it takes is for Itachi to break focus and the genjutsu is over. :shrug:

 

[datninjaitachi]

Picture this ,edo madara yasaka magatama need gaara ultimate defense and onoki ultimate defense to stop it.itachi yasaka should be around the same amount as madara susano can do,however itachi yasaka magatama was one and madara yasaka magata was several.I feel itachi wanted the other to help him to teach killerbee and naruto team work.We donot know if itachi yasaka could damage the giant rock boulder in one hit

props to you my friend.. im def repping you, youve been bringing up good points all day..the grammer is a little off but ehh whatevs lol. what you just said is what ive been thinking since that chapter but ppl will always look at the picture in the most obvious of ways. never out side of the box. why doubt itachi hes a ****ing beast who even kisame feared and kisame was the "tailles tailed beast", a chakra power house. what im trying to say is, if itachi was by himself im pretty confident that he wouldve either figured another way around the chibaku tensei, or he wouldve sent more than just one yasaka instead of one..we know its possible cause madara did it

 

[Majora]

omg this is the battls of the fanboys itachi fanboys vs nagato fanboys this cycle will never end.

No. It's a war between Itachi fanboy's and those who read the manga.

 

[datninjaitachi]

You clearly didnt read it properly..
1) I know how Tsukuyomi works
2) I said "we're not sure whether Rinnegan has the advantage of resisting getting caught in a genjutsu" this applies to healthy Nagato without the paths. Though he could just still use summons to distract Itachi into breaking the tsukuyomi, or are people now going to say he can use amaterasu and tsukuyomi at the same time?
3) The 6 paths have a visual link, if one path gets caught, do you think the rest will just stand there?

All it takes is for Itachi to break focus and the genjutsu is over. :shrug:

sorry dont mean to double post but i have to prove a point. if the tsukuyomi actually worked it takes literally 3 seconds in real time to drag out a 72 hours genjutsu on the victim..thats what made it so powerful. he would have caught at least 4 of the paths by the time it takes the summon was summoned and reached itachi. Although on the flip side, nagato is not dumb he knows about the sharingan and its techniques, i mean im sure of it they were in the same group lol. but i see nagato fighting itachi with gais style and avoid the eye contact. he has the advantage he has 6 diferent fields of view to see itachis movements. he doesnt have to just look at his feet like gai does

 

[Retsu]

dude im actually really impressed the way your mind works..in a good way lol im def repping you, youve been bringing up good points all day..the grammer is a little off but ehh whatevs lol. what you just said is what ive been thinking since that chapter but ppl will always look at the picture in the most obvious of ways. never out side of the box. why doubt itachi hes a ****ing beast who even kisame feared and kisame was the "tailles tailed beast", a chakra power house. what im trying to say is, if itachi was by himself im pretty confident that he wouldve either figured another way around the chibaku tensei, or he wouldve sent more than just one yasaka instead of one..we know its possible cause madara did it

Madara and Itachi's Susanoo abilities are on completely different levels, You can't compare anything to Madara's Susanoo seeing as the thing has two bodies, I highly doubt that Itachi's Susanoo has the same moves as Madara's

You know Madara is on a different level just by seeing his fire tech which took several water users to counter, you just can't compare Itachi to the real Madara

 

[datninjaitachi]

Madara and Itachi's Susanoo abilities are on completely different levels, You can't compare anything to Madara's Susanoo seeing as the thing has two bodies, I highly doubt that Itachi's Susanoo has the same moves as Madara's

You know Madara is on a different level just by seeing his fire tech which took several water users to counter, you just can't compare Itachi to the real Madara

good point and your right. but im not comparing them at all im just saying that madara proved that the susanoo can use yasaka more than once at a time..im just saying im sure itachis susannoo is better seeing how its in complete form. im sure his can whip out 4 yasakas at the chibaku and destroy it

 

[datninjaitachi]

ok im kinda comparing them lol

 

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sorry dont mean to double post but i have to prove a point. if the tsukuyomi actually worked it takes literally 3 seconds in real time to drag out a 72 hours genjutsu on the victim..thats what made it so powerful. he would have caught at least 4 of the paths by the time it takes the summon was summoned and reached itachi. Although on the flip side, nagato is not dumb he knows about the sharingan and its techniques, i mean im sure of it they were in the same group lol. but i see nagato fighting itachi with gais style and avoid the eye contact. he has the advantage he has 6 diferent fields of view to see itachis movements. he doesnt have to just look at his feet like gai does

Well I dont think he would be able to catch more than 1 person in tsukuyomi if you think about it carefully. The only time where more than one person caught in a genjutsu was via Pa and Ma's sound genjutsu, which I doubt Itachi has. And yes I agree that Nagato would have intel on sharingan and all lol. But yeh tsukuyomi wise Itachi has a chance if Nagato gets caught but he could fight via taijutsu like you mentioned.

Also no one seems to remember Nagato being able to control other people via chakra rods? If Itachi somehow gets stabbed with it, it could also be over?:shrug: And Itachi fans dont say Itachi has a kyuubi inside to scare off Nagato with chakra like Naruto did xd

 

[Retsu]

good point and your right. but im not comparing them at all im just saying that madara proved that the susanoo can use yasaka more than once at a time..im just saying im sure itachis susannoo is better seeing how its in complete form. im sure his can whip out 4 yasakas at the chibaku and destroy it

Nah I doubt it, Itachi said he used his most powerful long range attack, it was that binded Yasaka, I'm pretty sure that if he could even use it more than once, he couldn't use it quickly enough to destroy chibaku tensei, and in all honesty I think that multi-Yasaka was a Madara specific technique.

 

[zombiejesus]

threy are not at the same level you tool nagato would own itachi you and shinobix should be suspended for your bullshit threads