Hebi Sasuke vs Base Bee

[-Vegeta-]

Location: Where Taka fought Bee
Knowledge: Full for both sides
Restrictions: Full hachibi form and version 2

If Sasuke uses his curse mark then Bee can use his version 1 state but that's it.

Who wins?

 

[Blaze Release]

I was inclined to say bee, but after you said both have full knowledge im leaning towards sasuke

 

[-Vegeta-]

I was inclined to say bee, but after you said both have full knowledge im leaning towards sasuke

How does having full knowledge help Sasuke? It seems like it's more of an advantage for Bee since he would know about the sharingan and curse mark. Bee's forbidden to use version 2 or full hachibi form so Sasuke wouldn't need knowledge on any of that.

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

BEE win this one, his kenjutsu is better than sasuke and also sharingan can keep up with bee movement in kenjutsu mode not to mention bee also can stream his chakra like sasuke

 

[Blaze Release]

How does having full knowledge help Sasuke? It seems like it's more of an advantage for Bee since he would know about the sharingan and curse mark. Bee's forbidden to use version 2 or full hachibi form so Sasuke wouldn't need knowledge on any of that.

There isnt much to know about the sharigan or the curse mark.
Everybody knows about the sharigans ability and the curse mark gives the user a chakra boost.

If sasuke has full knowledge about bee, he'd think twice before trying to have a close combat fight with him. After all its due to bee's kenjutsu skill that allowed him to hand sasuke's ass to him.

If sasuke decides against a close battle he should win. If he does decide to have a close range battle with him, he would have to have come up with a strategy before the fight to win

 

[~Yubel~]

Bee wins, version 1 is all he needs, curse mark can´t compete with a tailed beast cloak, it could only compete with naruto cuz he was one tail but it can´t with bee and he´s stronger then sasuke either way.

 

[-S-]

dunno, curse seal is quite strong

 

[-Vegeta-]

There isnt much to know about the sharigan or the curse mark.
Everybody knows about the sharigans ability and the curse mark gives the user a chakra boost.

If sasuke has full knowledge about bee, he'd think twice before trying to have a close combat fight with him. After all its due to bee's kenjutsu skill that allowed him to hand sasuke's ass to him.

If sasuke decides against a close battle he should win. If he does decide to have a close range battle with him, he would have to have come up with a strategy before the fight to win

I don't see how Sasuke could injure him with long range jutsu. Hebi Sasuke did most of his fighting up close. Most of his chidori variants require him to get close and Bee could probably easily dodge his fire style jutsu.

 

[Bloody Temari]

Didn't Bee already rape him in almost same conditions?

 

[-Vegeta-]

Didn't Bee already rape him in almost same conditions?

Well that Sasuke didn't have the curse mark or Orochimaru's abilities when he fought Bee.

 

[~Yubel~]

Didn't Bee already rape him in almost same conditions?

He didn´t have any knowledge either.

 

[Blaze Release]

I don't see how Sasuke could injure him with long range jutsu. Hebi Sasuke did most of his fighting up close. Most of his chidori variants require him to get close and Bee could probably easily dodge his fire style jutsu.

Mid range. His weapon usage would be vital. The use of the windmill triple blade and manipulation shiruken technique. You saw how good he was with this against itachi, although granted itachi couldve dodged it if he wasnt ill and blind as zetsu was even shocked.

The use of his summonings (manda) could also come into effect.
The spamming of his many katon jutsu could be used as an offensive move but at the same rapidly warm up the environment for kirin to come into effect

 

[-Vegeta-]

Mid range. His weapon usage would be vital. The use of the windmill triple blade and manipulation shiruken technique. You saw how good he was with this against itachi, although granted itachi couldve dodged it if he wasnt ill and blind as zetsu was even shocked.

The use of his summonings (manda) could also come into effect.
The spamming of his manga katon jutsu could be used as an offensive move but at the same rapidly warm up the environment for kirin to come into effect

I don't see the windmill triple blade or shuriken technique doing much. Bee's extremely good with his swords and was able to block every incoming shuriken Itachi threw at him when he and Naruto fought him as shown here. He's also very fast so he could most likely dodge it as well.

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Also Bee isn't just going to stand there while Sasuke preps for kirin. Manda would pose a problem to Bee though.

 

[Blaze Release]

I don't see the windmill triple blade or shuriken technique doing much. Bee's extremely good with his swords and was able to block every incoming shuriken Itachi threw at him when he and Naruto fought him as shown here. He's also very fast so he could most likely dodge it as well.

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Also Bee isn't just going to stand there while Sasuke preps for kirin.

Itachi merely threw a few. Also the use of the shadow shuriken would surely catch im off guard. Even itachi was surprised by sasuke's use of this.

Not to forget bee blocked some of the shurikens itachi threw with the 8 tails hands (part transformation). Since we are talking about base bee he cannot do this.

Btw if we are talking about base bee, genjutsu is working on him

 

[-Vegeta-]

Itachi merely threw a few. Also the use of the shadow shuriken would surely catch im off guard. Even itachi was surprised by sasuke's use of this.

Not to forget bee blocked some of the shurikens itachi threw with the 8 tails hands (part transformation). Since we are talking about base bee he cannot do this.

Btw if we are talking about base bee, genjutsu is working on him

True. Also my restrictions were just for Bee transforming and using the hachibi's power. The hachibi can still break him out of genjutsu and give him information. Just no transforming.

 

[Blaze Release]

The hachibi's tentacle didn't do anything. It was his swords that blocked all the shuriken as shown in the scan. Also my restrictions were just for Bee transforming and using the hachibi's power. The hachibi can still break him out of genjutsu and give him information. Just no transforming.

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Him not being able to use hachibi's power equates to the hachibi not helping him break out of genjutsu

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

2 vote for sasuke and only 1 arguing for his choice

 

[Blaze Release]

2 vote for sasuke and only 1 arguing for his choice

I havent even voted, aswell.
This is why i dont like vs thread. People just vote without giving reason. Same as the people who voted for bee

 

[-Vegeta-]

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Him not being able to use hachibi's power equates to the hachibi not helping him break out of genjutsu

I know I misread your post. You misunderstand what I'm saying. When I say he can't use the hachibi's power I'm saying he's just not allowed to transform. The beast can still help him out by giving him information and breaking him out of genjutsu. Not like it matters though because Sasuke's genjutsu wasn't very good at that time anyway.

 

[Blaze Release]

I know I misread your post. You misunderstand what I'm saying. When I say he can't use the hachibi's power I'm saying he's just not allowed to transform. The beast can still help him out by giving him information and breaking him out of genjutsu. Not like it matters though because Sasuke's genjutsu was terrible at that time.

If he cannot transform, then he has his kenjutsu and limited raiton techniques.
If thats the case, sasuke should surely win even if he cannot use genjutsu