Common sense tells me that fires need oxygen to grow and that is where they get that logic from. I have never seen wind put out a fire, I have seen fires fed by wind though and become huge infernos. If you ask any firefighter what they fear, they are going to answer " a drought and high winds". Believe it or not most things in the manga make some sort of sense.
Sasuke used the fireball technique and it maximised big enough to burn the largeBaku's entire head, a fire that small won't survive in a wind that big in reality much less increase in size and this is why people don't light candles and put them near an open window when its windy.
Gaara was able to pull Madara out of his Susanoo because Oonoki lighten the sand which allowed it to go through his Susanoo. Also, they were fighting him in a desert like area so the sand was under his feet by default.
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I don't know what short range means for Tsukuyomi because Sasuke was able to hit Danzo from long range with it and Sasuke's Tsukuyomi is a highly watered down version of Itachi's Tsukuyomi.
Lol maybe he could!! xd Kishi hasn't mentioned anyone who actually defeated him in a fight and don't say "tobi" because minato was in a desperate situation because he was worried about naruto and the village because of the nine-tails.
Gaara is a long range fighter all Itachi's known genjutsu are short range.
Gaara can pull Itachi out of Susanoo(he doesn't need Onoki for this, Onoki just reduced the amount of exertion he'll need for this) and crush him. He can avoid Yasaka's Magatama and Totsuka by riding his sand to remove himself out of the way(it was fast enough to dodge Amaterasu)
Gaara can block Amaterasu with his defense(he did so against Sasuke's Amaterasu)
With no genjutsu(Tsukuyomi included) and no Amaterasu or Susanoo attacks, Itachi is dead, won't you agree? If not, tell me Itachi's options.
NOTE: He can't use water techs to destroy Gaara's sand, only oily water can accomplish this.
Garra is heavily weak against Water attacks
Water Release: Puppet Dance of Mystic Rain
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The puppeteer wraps the enemy with chakra strings in an effort to bind and restrict their movements, and then has the puppets spew water on the opponent. This technique was especially effective on Gaara as it prevented him from manipulating his sand which was soaked in water
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Naruto episode 218 Also shows you that Gaara's sand doesn't do well against water after getting hit with a water dragon jutsu.
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The only reason he went against the mizukage like that because that battle field was full of sand so i'm giving this to itachi
Sasuke used the fireball technique and it maximised big enough to burn the largeBaku's entire head, a fire that small won't survive in a wind that big in reality much less increase in size and this is why people don't light candles and put them near an open window when its windy.
His fireball was already fairly large to being with, and that is exactly how feeding fires works.
yeah if you have a candle or something that has a limited amount of things to burn then yes it will blow it out, but if that candle could spread then wind would make it grow into a larger flame. That is just the way the world works, it is 100% logical for wind to make flames grow larger. Why do you think people use bellows to start fires?
Come on, you can attempt to argue with me about the limitations of Itachi's genjutsu, but you can't argue the logic of wind increasing the size of a fire.
Gaara was able to pull Madara out of his Susanoo because Oonoki lighten the sand which allowed it to go through his Susanoo. Also, they were fighting him in a desert like area so the sand was under his feet by default.
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I don't know what short range means for Tsukuyomi because Sasuke was able to hit Danzo from long range with it and Sasuke's Tsukuyomi is a highly watered down version of Itachi's Tsukuyomi.
Gaara has manipulated sand wide enough to cover his entire village so weight is not a problem to him and also in the Danzo Vs Sasuke, if you measure with a straight line, the distance between Sasuke and Danzo, you'd see it wasn't much, from the scan you posted, you can see that Sasuke didn't look small from Danzo's viewpoint, now we know that when one looks at someone from a distance, they appear diminished in size and the smaller they look the farther the distance, like when Pain flew to the sky and was looking at Konoha and it appears MUCH smaller than it was.
Garra is heavily weak against Water attacks
Water Release: Puppet Dance of Mystic Rain
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The puppeteer wraps the enemy with chakra strings in an effort to bind and restrict their movements, and then has the puppets spew water on the opponent. This technique was especially effective on Gaara as it prevented him from manipulating his sand which was soaked in water
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Naruto episode 218 Also shows you that Gaara's sand doesn't do well against water after getting hit with a water dragon jutsu.
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The only reason he went against the mizukage like that because that battle field was full of sand so i'm giving this to itachi
His fireball was already fairly large to being with, and that is exactly how feeding fires works.
yeah if you have a candle or something that has a limited amount of things to burn then yes it will blow it out, but if that candle could spread then wind would make it grow into a larger flame. That is just the way the world works, it is 100% logical for wind to make flames grow larger. Why do you think people use bellows to start fires?
Come on, you can attempt to argue with me about the limitations of Itachi's genjutsu, but you can't argue the logic of wind increasing the size of a fire.
The candle has a limited amount of things to burn so the flame is snuffed out, Sasuke's fireball isn't burning anything, it was simply expelled from his mouth into a strong wind, the candle is better off and compared to the size of Baku's mouth, the fireball was tiny.
Why can't you guys just stop overrating and underrating both of them and give both their credit.
Itachi can only use short range genjutsus because he uses his eyes and finger. The only way Itachi can use a long rang genjutsu is if he use a shadow clone to get close to an enemy (it's consider long range since Itachi himself isn't close). You have to either look into Itachi's eyes or finger (have to be staring at his finger like naruto was. Naruto was focused on itachi finger because he was trying to not look into his eyes then itachi lifted a finger to where naruto was looking) to be caught in his genjutsu. Itachi was dying from a disease and him going all out spells death for him, he was using medicine to prolong his life. Everytime Itachi (Sasuke also) was weaken physically and drained of alot of chakra when he used MS jutsus, plus gets more blind.
Gaara sand is weak against water as it was shown in the anime in the first part towards the last episodes. Water/oil solidifies the sand. Gaara does have mobility with the sand in the air and is pretty fast as shown in the the 3rd shippuden movie. Gaara has sand shuriken, sand clones, sand burial, sand coffin, make a sand eye. Gaara can use sand that in the ground (it won't be as strong or fast as the one he carries with him) and can make waves of sand.
This fight can go either way actual, Gaara shown he can find weakness and make good strategies. For the Itachi fanboys, Gaara can submerse the battlefield in sand. Itachi would have to keep moving or he'll be caught by gaara's sand from below, infact Gaara can surround Itachi with his sand, close in on Itachi and use sand coffin. The moment Itachi use sasunoo to breakout Gaara uses the sand under Itachi and crush him with sand coffin. Many strategies are out there and they both got the strengths and weakness. Also yes I know the movies aren't canon but the movies are still using Kishi's rules in them to make it the same as the canon. For example in the movies Naruto fights the same as he does in the canon and so do other characters like kakashi, shikamaru, neji, ect.. Gaara vs Naruto played out as it did with both using the same abilities and jutsus that use in the canon so unless the movies shows something unbelievable that wasn't shown in the canon like sakura being faster and stronger than A then it's still good to use at info on battling.
If his susanoo is complete he will have the yata mirror unlike madara's (maybe) so he'll be able deflect any elemental jutsu and won't be pulled out of his susanoo like madara was in the fight Also itachi's magatama shuriken from his susanoo can pierce gaara 's sand because madara's did in the manga after going through onoki's golem stone
gaara can be hit by itachi's genjutsu too
only thing he has is tailed beast level chakra (no biju) and tactics w/ Sand :flaw:
If his susanoo is complete he will have the yata mirror unlike madara's (maybe) so he'll be able deflect any elemental jutsu and won't be pulled out of his susanoo like madara was in the fight Also itachi's magatama shuriken from his susanoo can pierce gaara 's sand because madara's did in the manga after going through onoki's golem stone
gaara can be hit by itachi's genjutsu too
only thing he has is tailed beast level chakra (no biju) and tactics w/ Sand :flaw:
The sand won't be stopped since its coming from underneath Susanoo and the mirror can't block that
Gaara can stand and his sand and use his sand's mobility to dodge Yasaka Magatama or use large volumes (larger than what he used against Madara's Yasaka Magatama) of sand to shield.
Itachi's genjutsu is short ranged and Gaara is a long range fighter.
Gaara has manipulated sand wide enough to cover his entire village so weight is not a problem to him and also in the Danzo Vs Sasuke, if you measure with a straight line, the distance between Sasuke and Danzo, you'd see it wasn't much, from the scan you posted, you can see that Sasuke didn't look small from Danzo's viewpoint, now we know that when one looks at someone from a distance, they appear diminished in size and the smaller they look the farther the distance, like when Pain flew to the sky and was looking at Konoha and it appears MUCH smaller than it was.
You do realize that they were fighting in a desert so what would be the point in Gaara waiting for Oonoki to lighten the sand? If you look at the Manga, Gaara was able to use the sand to hold the Susanoo while he threw Madara out of it. He was able to do this because Oonoki took all the weight restrictions from the sand which allowed him to also use the sand from under his feet. Danzo was roughly standing about 20 feet away from Sasuke. That is considered long range imo.
Itachi caught naruto in the genjutsu at that moment. I would say that is mid range..but even so, that is most likely and logically the same distance gaara would have from Itachi, or any enemy from what we've seen. Who's to say that the genjutsu couldnt be casted from further away? I dont think this was the limit to the range. But to all who say genjutsu cant be cast from afar, think again.
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stating that he only needs a finger was just to say not only his eyes cast genjutsu but from any place on him that he wants, using his finger as an example. dont take everything that a character says LITERALLY.
ok it was a genjutsu and when itachi first met up with saskue that was also a clone as he said to meet him at the uchia hideout after that.
the one with naruto was shusi eye. The one with saskue was a genjutsu clone that saskue easily saw through. not a crow that can create its own genjutsu
"what are you talking about?
the only crow i know that used genjutsu was itachis crow that had shusi eye in it. i dotn know of any crow itachis uses that can use its own genjutsu"
I don't know. That has to be a very fast Genjutsu if when he turns around to see who's behind him and sees that its Itachi with a crow on his shoulder with sharigans. This was before he even stared into his eyes. I'm sure if Itachi can program Shisui's eyes to do what it did then he can implant other sharigans into some crows eyes and use them to perform genjutsus on command.
I didnt read the whole thread but Im pretty sure Gaara wouldnt manage to stay "long range" from Itachi although Itachi still has some long range attacks. You could argue Gaara is one of Itachi's worst match ups but I dont see Gaara beating Itachi in any way
