Neji vs Shikamaru

[sG Taka]

neji with easy Shikamaru can fight worth for crap all his battles he had help and was all traps that were planned out

I mean he can fight, and he has one battles on his own but yeah, I'd agree that Neji wins.

Plus Tayuya's battle doesn't count because it was becoming night.

 

[ShikaShogi]

Neji wins easily he would not give shikimaru time to think.

Shikamaru already knows Neji's Strengths and Weaknesses. He also has knowledge on his fighting skills. All this is implied when he assembles The Sasuke Retrieval Team. So, as for thinking time, he doesn't require much.

 

[sG Taka]

Shikamaru already knows Neji's Strengths and Weaknesses. He also has knowledge on his fighting skills. All this is implied when he assembles The Sasuke Retrieval Team. So, as for thinking time, he doesn't require much.

Shikamaru needs to stop and think to figure out a plan. I think he meant that Neji won't allow this to happen.

Btw, Neji is also aware of Shikamaru's strengths and weaknesses so given he is a genius and a jounin, he can figure something out also.

 

[ShikaShogi]

I mean he can fight, and he has one battles on his own but yeah, I'd agree that Neji wins.

Plus Tayuya's battle doesn't count because it was becoming night.

You neglect to see the diverse strategies he has used in order win a match in past occasions. Just because the time of day was getting darker, it doesn't mean he was completely helpless. I'm sure that he'd still find ways of evening the score.

 

[sG Taka]

You neglect to see the diverse strategies he has used in order win a match in past occasions. Just because the time of day was getting darker, it doesn't mean he was completely helpless. I'm sure that he'd still find ways of evening the score.

He might find ways but it's unlikely, you're relying on things that are unlikely to happen like:

1) Shikamaru's shadow affecting Neji
2) Neji not seeing a trap and therefore falling for it not being able to do anything about it
3) Neji losing close-range combat
4) Shikamaru "evening" the score at night. Shikamaru's vision and shadows are affected by night whereas Neji's Byakugan is not.

All of these things can happen, but Neji has more chances at winning.

 

[fastrthnwind]

damn i wish I was here for this convo...

 

[sG Taka]

damn i wish I was here for this convo...

Just point out any facts you think are wrong! Or just state your opinion based on what we have discussed, It doesn't matter if you repeat certain arguments..

 

[Red Slayer]

Shika is a long ranged fighter how will neji get close to him without getting stuck in his shadow?

kidomaru was long rank fighter too but... lol

 

[Baldy]

Shikamaru : Neji this is Really Drag you Win.
Neji : WTH, but u almost win
Shikamaru : whatever whatever ,you Win

^^This^^^ LMAO

 

[~Mara~]

Shikamaru because his intellect will get him to victory and Neji cannot keep rotating

^ ^ thise

 

[~ You Know Who ~]

neji
shika has low stamina
but a tough one!!!

 

[~ You Know Who ~]

^^ this

 

[LolaxXx]

Neji gets too close, its over.

Also it depends on where they are fighting.

 

[sG Taka]

^ ^ thise

Neji doesn't need to rotate, that's if he fails to avoid the shadows after clearly seeing them with his Byakugan. And again, Neji can rotate more than what Shikamaru can use his Shadows. Neji has more stamina than Shikamaru.

 

[sG Taka]

^^This^^^ LMAO

It's funny but yeah..not true anymore.

 

[sG Taka]

Neji gets too close, its over.

Also it depends on where they are fighting.

If Neji get's mid-range it's going to be hard for Shikamaru, because his Eight Triagrams 64 Palms is mid-range. Besides Neji can handle lon-range fighters just fine, look at Kidomaru.

Yup, if it's a forest..Shikamaru has a slight advantage for his shadows whereas if it's a block room (i.e. Uchiha Hideout) Shikamaru is at a disadvanatge. However, Neji's Byakugan can see Shikamaru's shadow's perfectly regardless of where they are fighting. Shikamaru also can't "sneak up" a shadow behind him because the Byakugan is 360 degrees and is filled with chakra..

 

[sG Taka]

^^ this

You forgot to quote haha

 

[DarkClaw]

Shikamaru wins , dont ask me the reason because idk.

 

[Sakon]

Shikamaru

 

[ShikaShogi]

What I have highlighted is not true, if this where true Shikamaru could easily beat everyone. If this were true, Shikamaru could have easily came up with a tactic to save Asuma and counter Hidan's attacks. Shikamaru would be too busy (if not hit) trying to keep up with Neji's fast and powerful Gentle Fist to think of a strategy to counter the current and upcoming attacks.

"Shikamaru surpasses Neji when it comes to executing moves"? What? Neji is physically more skilled than Shikamaru, he's a genius, he made it to Jounin before anybody else. (Please don't come with the "Shikamaru has been invited to the Twelve Shinobi Guardians" because that was solely based on intellect only).

I believe tools and intellect are not enough to win against Neji.

You can't count the 1st encounter with Hidan given the fact that Shikamaru had no background on him. Once regrouped with a new team, Shikamaru was successful in completing his mission with no loss of any teammates.
Here "encounters" refer to ways of defense [if running away is his only option, let him run. Neji doesn't seem like the kind to go after his opponent. It seems to me that he rather wait for his opponent to come to him.]

Again, Speed and Strength are worthless if you don't use them correctly against an opponent who surpasses his genius. And that's a good point you bring about with being part of the Twelve Shinobi Guardians. Sure, here he'd be working harder as a strategist than a fighter, but this shows he isn't defenseless against Neji. As for tools and intellect, these can be used in such diverse ways that even Neji would have trouble. Intellect is one of the major requirements in a battle. It's always good to use Shogi [something that Shikamaru has never lost at] as an example.