I explaind that it in that post itself.Why do you ROFL? Qoute something that is against manga logic bro, do it if you can![]()
If you are truly a manga fanboy then start acting like one. Outright rejecting arguments from one side claiming NFIDS is making an strawman argument.
Secondly both sides are equally fanatic when it comes to their favourite character. Oversimplification of your opponant's positions is akin to absurdity.
Fact 1: Nagato didn't fight. He was used as a weapon BY Kabuto and it was Kabuto VS Itachi fight.
Fact 2: All the edo's in full control are limited by the capabilities of Kabuto- If Kabuto doesn't know what to do next, Edo won't do waht to do next.
Fact 3: Nagato was in full control when he fought Itachi and didn't do anything to fight any of the trio on his own.
Fact 4: Kishi made sure that the message is conveyed who is really fighting when he showed us Kabuto cursing after Nagato getting sealed.
Fact 5: We never got to see a a fight between Nagato and Itachi under circumstance- we just found out about the abilities of sharingan and rinnegan.
Nagato has already tought Naruto what he had to - he made him think beyond the personal goal of becoming a hokage. He had done hs bit for Konoha for Jiraiya and Naruto's sake when he sacrificed himself reviving KOnoha. He has no obligation as a shinobi dead or alive towards Konoha at this point.
Before anyone starts again about Itachi getting free of Kabuto's control and having a back up plan- Well it was his village and his brother for which he had thought about a back up strategy. And it was an accidental benefit he recived.
MInd you I did not point this out to pull Itachi down. Just reminding the exact circumstances to put things in perspective.
Itachi called himself a failure, Nagato did too. I don't think either were of them a failure - Both of them were highly talented and powerful but inexperience and sort of lost in the mess created by the war. Both wanted to achieve and maintain peace- tried to find solution without guidance- ended up with the masked guy Tobi.
The two extra ordinary shinobis were used and wasted by Tobi who now get abused from their fans from both sides.U_U
NiceI explaind that it that post itself.
As for the rest , I noticed when you left the thread and made another one when you found you cannot pretend to be neutral and still reply my post.
Try to comprehend it when you are able to step back and look at the manga as a whole if your objective is ballanced overview of the characters.
false manga says otherwiseYeah. This is wrong. Nagato can counter Totsuka and Yata, Gaara as well. All they have to do is drag Itachi out of Susanoo and They can dodge his Totsuka. Gaara's sand is fast enough to block Amaterasu so side stepping Totsuka while riding the sand will be easy, Kakashi and any other character with good speed and reflexes will dodge it because NO SPECIALLY HIGH SPEED HAS BEEN MENTIONED OR IMPLIED ABOUT TOTSUKA NO TSURUGI. Keep in mind that I'm not saying people can beat Itachi just because they can avoid Totsuka, there's still Amaterasu and his other great techs. He's a great ninja. Also all his genjutsu are short ranged so top tier long range fighters like Gaara, Tsuchikage will give him a run for his money. He's a high level ninja but I know people closer to invincible than he is.
sasuke tsukoyomi works against bee, before he can break it, so logically itachi tsukoyomi which a lot better than sasuke tsukoyomi can workHave Itachi use Tsukuyomi on a complete juchuriki? I mean someone like Bee? I don't know so.. So your idea of saying that "Chakra disruption DOESN'T work on ITACHI'S TSUKUYOMI" Isn't genuine..
Where do you read it? The manga never stated that Nagato was defeated by Itachi. It was 3 vs 1 battle..1. Never said he is invincible.
2. Learn the difference between Invincible and Immortal. Sage of the 6 Paths is Invincible, but he is dead.
3. Learn manga story line, Itachi died on purposs according to his "master plan" which got foiled by Tobi Madara Uchiha.
Preta Path can only absorb Ninjutsu attacks, Susanoo isn't a Ninjutsu mate.
1. Itachi was sick, manga fact.
2. He already beat Nagato.
3. You didn't give any arguments and didn't explain how Itachi would lose to those guys, Yata Mirror, Sword of Totsuka and Tsukuyomi, get past them frist.
no itachis tsukuyomi can be cast in an instant, and it only lasts an instant.Have Itachi use Tsukuyomi on a complete juchuriki? I mean someone like Bee? I don't know so.. So your idea of saying that "Chakra disruption DOESN'T work on ITACHI'S TSUKUYOMI" Isn't genuine..
no not really.Where do you read it? The manga never stated that Nagato was defeated by Itachi. It was 3 vs 1 battle..
:flaw::flaw: it doesn't. bee just pretended so Sasuke could think so, which lead to an unexpected attack.. (Ripping is heart) lol..sasuke tsukoyomi works against bee, before he can break it, so logically itachi tsukoyomi which a lot better than sasuke tsukoyomi can work
why are we talking baout minato?EVERYONE (well almost) in the naruto universe considers minato a genius look at the raikage, tsunade, even tobi(or *fake* madara)
ThisEVERYONE (well almost) in the naruto universe considers minato a genius look at the raikage, tsunade, even tobi(or *fake* madara)
This is just a fact ok.. It 3 to 1 battle, Even Nagato was an edo and moreover He never really expect Itachi in that battle, he was focusing all is attention on those two..no not really.
especially when itachi had o save both jinjuriki's from capture
not forgetting that nagato had to regenerate against itachi.This is just a fact ok.. It 3 to 1 battle, Even Nagato was an edo and moreover He never really expect Itachi in that battle, he was focusing all is attention on those two..
The manga haven't prove that ok.. There's always a way, every techniques has weakness, i don't think only a sharingan user can break tsukuyomi, i believe a complete juchuriki can..no itachis tsukuyomi can be cast in an instant, and it only lasts an instant.
there is not enough time to break it with chakra disruption
well you are worng.The manga haven't prove that ok.. There's always a way, every techniques has weakness, i don't think only a sharingan user can break tsukuyomi, i believe a complete juchuriki can..