[Theory] Tobi: Thread for all Tobi theories and related discussions .

Armilli · Dec 4, 2011

Re: Obito and Shisui, The Nameless Shinobi's

How do we know that Tobi is a actual Uchiha?

He trained Uchiha Itachi. Uchiha Itachi is known to be very intuitive and perceptive of things. Because of this, it is likely that he Tobi is infact an Uchiha. If not, Itachi would have spotted this fact. Even from all the latest manga's that have been released, we cannot be for sure that he is an actual Uchiha. Until his identity is revealed, it is only then it would be confirmed or not if he is an Uchiha. But because of Uchiha Itachi's great intuition and due to him to saying nothing about him not being an Uchiha, it's most likely that Tobi is infact an Uchiha. The fact that itachi suspected him of being Uchiha Madara, it's likely that he is infact somehow Madara or is a fragment of some sort of Madara. Either that or Madara even manipulated and deceived Uchiha Itachi, after all... he is considered a master manipulator. I'm going with him being an Uchiha definitely though, Itachi is highly reliable.

Rexoniel · Dec 4, 2011

Re: Obito and Shisui, The Nameless Shinobi's

Armilli said:
Shisui or Obito is Tobi. Prove me wrong right now. Why would you take other people threads defeat my theory? Trying to take peoples creditablity of supposedly ''defeating'' my claim of Shisui or Obito being Tobi? You cant compose your own reason on why this theory is wrong? You are very unoriginal and mentally disabled.

lol wtf? I already posted my reasons for not believing why it wouldn't be Obito but whatever. Insult me if you want and I'll let you feel stupid when his face is finally revealed and it isn't Obito. Tobi is likely much older than Obito should ever be for him to have worked with Madara probably even from Onoki's generation. Tobi went up against Minato so do you really think Obito suddenly became a god and learned how to be intangible and warp things with his eye and even control the kyuubi over such a short span of time since he was crushed? At the very least Minato should have recognized his voice and not mistook him for Madara.

prey01hawk · Dec 4, 2011

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how bout we all wait -_-

Armilli · Dec 4, 2011

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I'll let you feel stupid when his face is finally revealed and it isn't Obito.

Oh, you are just so kind. Letting me do as i please, Oh this is so very nice of you. Giving me permission to what to feel and think. I can't take a breather without your signal.

]Tobi is likely much older than Obito should ever be for him to have worked with Madara probably even from Onoki's generation. Tobi went up against Minato so do you really think Obito suddenly became a god and learned how to be intangible and warp things with his eye and even control the kyuubi over such a short span of time since he was crushed? At the very least Minato should have recognized his voice and not mistook him for Madara.

No, Zetsu is older then Obito. Zetsu was created after he obtained Hashirama's cells. Zetsu is carrying out Uchiha Madara's plan of the Moon's Eye. He lived on after the death of Uchiha Madara. The real and main top dog Zetsu is who he refers himself as Tobi or ''No one''. Tobi is a split person. ''Tobi'' is the top dog Zetsu who lived on to carry out Uchiha Madara's ambitions. The ''No one'' is Obito, for his name means ''Unknown''. Tobi has a split personality, i'm pretty sure you know what i'm talking about, If you don't, i demand you to ask me. Zetsu and Obito merged together, joining forces. They rearranged the letters in his name to symbolize this. As ''Tobi'' means ''ten bijuus''.

Since Zetsu lived since the first hokage was alive, it is highly expected for Zetsu to know all the abilities of the sharingan for he is Uchiha Madara's creation. Zetsu became 1 with Obito. It should be self-explanatory on how he learned to do and know all these techniques in a short amount of time. Tobi used Shisui to manipulate the 4th mizukage. The same way he used itachi to collect the tailed beasts, stepping closer and closer to his goal.

Disquiet · Dec 4, 2011

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Armilli said:
Oh, you are just so kind. Letting me do as i please, Oh this is so very nice of you. Giving me permission to what to feel and think. I can't take a breather without your signal.

No, Zetsu is older then Obito. Zetsu was created after he obtained Hashirama's cells. Zetsu is carrying out Uchiha Madara's plan of the Moon's Eye. He lived on after the death of Uchiha Madara. The real and main top dog Zetsu is who he refers himself as Tobi or ''No one''. Tobi is a split person. ''Tobi'' is the top dog Zetsu who lived on to carry out Uchiha Madara's ambitions. The ''No one'' is Obito, for his name means ''Unknown''. Tobi has a split personality, i'm pretty sure you know what i'm talking about, If you don't, i demand you to ask me. Zetsu and Obito merged together, joining forces. They rearranged the letters in his name to symbolize this. As ''Tobi'' means ''ten bijuus''.

Since Zetsu lived since the first hokage was alive, it is highly expected for Zetsu to know all the abilities of the sharingan for he is Uchiha Madara's creation. Zetsu became 1 with Obito. It should be self-explanatory on how he learned to do and know all these techniques in a short amount of time. Tobi used Shisui to manipulate the 4th mizukage. The same way he used itachi to collect the tailed beasts, stepping closer and closer to his goal.

hmm...I always believed it was a great chance of being these two, but I really like your theory, and I didn't know what "obito" meant either.

and "using" shisui? that was good, I always wondered how come tobi knew about itachi's sacrifice, there was no way for him to know since he had no connections with konoha, and he couldn't have just guessed that, lol. +rep

leezagboola · Dec 4, 2011

Re: Who is behind the Mask...

TheGoldFlash said:
Isnt it possible that Madara gave Izuna his Mangekyō Sharingan on his death bed after the battle??

But Izuna died before Madara died, and madara was angry because
1. his brother died and
2. he didnt stop the senju and now his clan followed the senju clan and didnt make him the hokage.
And with the hairm im pretty sure he could have just got a hair cut over like 50 years...
I think that tobi is a nobody like maybe just someone in the uchiha clan who looked up to madara, maybe a pupil or secret love child or something, maybe then he decided to continue on in his sensi's dream or whatever and could have started by collecting madaras eyes.

~Elixir~ · Dec 4, 2011

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TheGoldFlash said:
What do you think?? Who is behind the mask???

I think Man behind the mask is....

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YwtfoO · Dec 4, 2011

So what happened to Izuna?

I guess Kishi made a hint, when he showed us the dead body of Izuna in the past.
We all have seen his dead body in the coffin so everyone is assuming that he's dead.
But one thing which bothers me really much, and what I call a hint, is , that Kabuto was not reviving Izuna as an ET.

This here kinda seems really strange :
The person, who seemed to be Tobi, was resurrected by Kabuto - Madara Uchiha.
The person, who seemed to be dead and was very easy detectable, because everyone was knowing where he was settled down, wasn't revived by Kabuto - Izuna Uchiha.

I'm 100% sure, that Kabuto was aware of how strong Izuna was and he knew, that Madara and Izuna were equal on par. I also believe, that he was looking for Izuna, instead he found Madara.

This, without the other facts, outclasses every specticism to me, that there is no way he could be Tobi ( I am not saying he is, I am saying it's possible ) .

Either Izuna is Tobi or something else happened after his death, so Kabuto could not find him.

What are you thoughts about this?
Do you agree?
Do you disagee - Why?
Have other theories?

Feel free to discuss !

-S- · Dec 4, 2011