Nagato VS Minato

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actually im not - he deserves more credit than you give him, look back at the narutos birth chapters - worst case scenario he can use reaper death seal and both will die, so nagato cant win either way - no one can except for perhaps so6p if he has a way to overcome the reaper
Wow...................Nagato has this one with high difficulty. Minato is fast but that means nothing when you have 6 Kage level people fighting you that share the same field of vision. also too, does Minato know about Nagato's sercet? that is where the deciding factor of win would come into play.

Bold: ummmm.................ok I bet edo Madara would prove you wrong.
 

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dude i guess u of all PPL should know there is no point arguing with minato fanboy
False accusation if it was about me, I am not a Minato fanboy.


just u know nagato kill himself when fighting naruto
What? He killed himself because Naruto influenced him. Also, it doesn't matter if he killed himself or not, his 6 paths were crushed by Naruto and he was in a device, he couldn't even walk or talk without being half dead. Are you implying a half dead Nagato was able to defeat Naruto?

and the 2nd one he was totally pawned KM naruto and KIller bee but itachi was there so actually that is 1 vs 3 and nagato lose,if it naruto and bee only nagato would have win
Totally Pawned? And you dare call others "fanboys". Nagato was technically defeated when he got hit by the first Amaterasu. Then he regenerates, he blocks Naruto's and Bees attacks, as he is about to land a hit on Bee, Itachi saves Naruto and Bee and breaks off Nagato's arms. His arms regenerate, he launches his attack. Naruto, Bee and Itachi counter his attack. Itachi defeats Nagato.

Wow...................Nagato has this one with high difficulty. Minato is fast but that means nothing when you have 6 Kage level people fighting you that share the same field of vision. also too, does Minato know about Nagato's sercet? that is where the deciding factor of win would come into play.

Bold: ummmm.................ok I bet edo Madara would prove you wrong.
This is not about 6 paths of Pein, this is about 1 Nagato vs 1 Minato.
 

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Hm LOOl Naruto Defeated 6 paths of pain? :|
Naruto Was summoned by ma with 3 frogs,he cant summon all frogs he had sage clones , deva did not have powers , deva beat naruto with bansho tenin and than hinata saved him ,, Nagato crushed him into chibaku tensei he was ill so chibaku was destroyied .
naruto had information about pain
 

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False accusation if it was about me, I am not a Minato fanboy.
don't bother to quote this if u are not one, but since u were responding to this its clear now LOL



What? He killed himself because Naruto influenced him. Also, it doesn't matter if he killed himself or not, his 6 paths were crushed by Naruto and he was in a device, he couldn't even walk or talk without being half dead. Are you implying a half dead Nagato was able to defeat Naruto?
just to be clear nagato was fighting SM naruto and deva path totally owned him and pin naruto down, but the fox came out so with only little chakra he manage to supress it with chibaku tensei but the 8 tails come out and when deva path was about to make chibaku tensei bigger the 4th help naruto and suppress the fox and poof naruto was able escape and pawned deva path which is laready run low on chakra after wipe the floor with the fox



Totally Pawned? And you dare call others "fanboys". Nagato was technically defeated when he got hit by the first Amaterasu. Then he regenerates, he blocks Naruto's and Bees attacks, as he is about to land a hit on Bee, Itachi saves Naruto and Bee and breaks off Nagato's arms. His arms regenerate, he launches his attack. Naruto, Bee and Itachi counter his attack. Itachi defeats Nagato.
nagato pawned both naruto and bee and itachi save them, without itachi they were dead meat,
 

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just to be clear nagato was fighting SM naruto and deva path totally owned him and pin naruto down, but the fox came out so with only little chakra he manage to supress it with chibaku tensei but the 8 tails come out and when deva path was about to make chibaku tensei bigger the 4th help naruto and suppress the fox and poof naruto was able escape and pawned deva path which is laready run low on chakra after wipe the floor with the fox
The Demon Fox is part of Naruto's Arsenal, why does that make a difference? Naruto might not have tactically planned ahead to release the fox at the right time, but it happend, it is part of Naruto's power and Naruto defeated the 6 Paths of Pein. After that, he went and defeated everything Nagato believed in and turned Nagato in a "I failed, I leave everything and my faith in you Naruto" mode. That is the reality of the Manga.
 

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The Demon Fox is part of Naruto's Arsenal, why does that make a difference? Naruto might not have tactically planned ahead to release the fox at the right time, but it happend, it is part of Naruto's power and Naruto defeated the 6 Paths of Pein. After that, he went and defeated everything Nagato believed in and turned Nagato in a "I failed, I leave everything and my faith in you Naruto" mode. That is the reality of the Manga.
after the battle with orochimaru at the bridge naruto swear he will never use the fox power again, that's why he learn elemental affinity and sage mode, he only acknowledge the fox power after he tame him, so at that time naruto never planning to use the fox power, and that's mean he's not acknowledge the fox power as his own not until he realized that his father and mother want him to tame the fox,

and just to be clear naruto defeated the six path of pain with complete intel on him, if he do not know anything about pain ability he will suffer the same fate like j-man did, not to mention pain back the is not at full power since he already fight kakashi and the other leaf ninja, he even use the ultimate shinra tensei which is forbidden jutsu even for nagato
 

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after the battle with orochimaru at the bridge naruto swear he will never use the fox power again, that's why he learn elemental affinity and sage mode, he only acknowledge the fox power after he tame him, so at that time naruto never planning to use the fox power, and that's mean he's not acknowledge the fox power as his own not until he realized that his father and mother want him to tame the fox,

and just to be clear naruto defeated the six path of pain with complete intel on him, if he do not know anything about pain ability he will suffer the same fate like j-man did, not to mention pain back the is not at full power since he already fight kakashi and the other leaf ninja, he even use the ultimate shinra tensei which is forbidden jutsu even for nagato
Wether Naruto acknowledges the fox power as his own or not doesn't change the fact that it is his legacy and is his power (unless the fox manages to break free from naruto, which he hasn't done yet).

The only way Naruto would lose to Six paths of Pein is as you suggested, if he doesn't have any intel on him because Naruto is dumb and has no analizing skill during combat.

Jiraiya defeated Pein and would actually be able to defeat all 6 paths of Pein, that is why Nagato only brought out 3 of them so he could Ambush Jiraiya when he would let his guard down after he "thought" he defeated him ;)
 

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Nagato has many powers in his Arsenal, But how would he Kill Minato?

Minato is smart he first would examine Nagato and his abilities, then carefully Judge what to do next, his very calm and dont get angry or carried away by hate or Anger or puppyloss like Nagato, he focuses on winning and he has many abilities to help him get there.

Minato will get beaten at first but he'll find away to take out Nagato, remember Minato Developed many Ninjutsus by himself - how many ninjas do you know who invented something like Rasengan, Ftg, Reaper death Seal? - not many.

Nagato wouldnt dream of creating a ninjutsu - their level of intellegence is far apart! - Intelligent Matters just as much as power or perhaps even more!

minatos ftg was so fast that he took out 50 shinobis in a blink of an eye without breaking so much as a sweat, what do you think ftg 2 can do? he can teleport while teleporting if that makes any sense you will understand his unfathomable speed! how do you Nagato would dodge or shield that? even A couldnt!

how many rasengans would hit Nagato before he can even blink! and minato can teleport to his attacks

Not to mention Space time Ninjutsu cannot be countered by Nagato!
 

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Don't judge things that sketchily. Nagato may achieve a clear victory at first glance, but Minato actually is a pretty bad matchup for him.

  • It's not like Nagato repells Minato's Kunai, forms Chibaku Tensei and wins. No, not at all. Chibaku Tensei actually is pretty useless against Minato. With Hiraishin no Jutsu he can simply teleport it out of his range before it get's too big. I'm refering to the part he teleports Kyuubi's Bijuu Dama. It didn't take him long, though the sphere was as big as the stoneheads. We also saw that Chibaku Tensei needs some time to attract things. Itachi, Naruto & Bee had enough time to have a little conversation and crack jokes, afterwards Bee even transformed into Hachibi - something that's not done in three seconds. ( )
  • Nagato's summonings aren't superior to Minato's. We know that he has a contract with Mount Myoboku, which means that he can summon every toad there is. If somebody makes a contract with one toad, he makes it with all of them. That's exactly how Kishi said it in the latest data-book.
  • Hiraishin no Jutsu totally differs from Naruto's Rikudo Modo speed. Minato isn't actually moving, he's teleporting. Which means that it can be used anytime. If he gets caught by Nagato's chameleon for example, like Naruto, he can teleport himself away. If Nagato is about to rip out his soul, he can teleport himself away. If Nagato gets a hold of him with his Asura Path, like he did with Bee, Minato can teleport himself away. It's actually pretty hard hitting him. ( , , )
  • The Ninjutsu absorbation, which is actually called Fujutsu Kyuin, does not work automatically. It's not a shield that detects chakra, activates on its own and absorbs Ninjutsu. Nagato needs to activate it, by letting his Chakra rotate (my source of that information is the last data-book), which means that he needs to see a technique coming in order to absorb it. So, if Minato - just theoretically - manages to get a marking on Nagato, he can instantly appear behind him and hit him with a Rasengan, since it happens in an instant - way too fast for Nagato to notice it and activate Fujutsu Kyuin.
  • The markings for Hiraishin no Jutsu. He has them on his special Kunai, but he can also place them manually, by just touching something with his hand. So assuming that Minato couldn't get a marking on Nagato means assuming that Minato couldn't even touch Nagato - and that's pretty ridiculous. He could even place them on the floor, where Nagato doesn't notice them. But though we don't know how to remove a marking once it's placed, I'm sure that Nagato, a skilled Rinnegan user, could manage to do so somehow, because I'm pretty sure that Minato's markings won't stay on the opponent forever.
I'm not taking any sides right now, but I'm convinced that it'd be a close fight by any means.
 
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Don't judge things that sketchily. Nagato may achieve a clear victory at first glance, but Minato actually is a pretty bad matchup for him.

  1. It's not like Nagato repells Minato's Kunai, forms Chibaku Tensei and wins. No, not at all. Chibaku Tensei actually is pretty useless against Minato. With Hiraishin no Jutsu he can simply teleport it out of his range before it get's too big. I'm refering to page. It didn't take him long, though Kyuubi's Bijuudama was as big as the stoneheads. We also saw that Chibaku Tensei needs some time to attract things. Itachi, Naruto & Bee had enough time to have a little conversation and crack jokes, afterwards Bee even transformed into Hachibi - something that's not done in three seconds.
  2. Nagato's summonings aren't superior to Minato's. We know that he has a contract with Mount Myoboku, which means that he can summon every toad there is. If somebody makes a contract with one toad, he makes it with all of them. That's exactly how Kishi said it in the latest data-book.
  3. Hiraishin no Jutsu totally differs from Naruto's Rikudo Modo speed. Minato isn't actually moving, he's teleporting. Which means that it can be used anytime. If he gets caught by Nagato's chameleon for example, like Naruto, he can teleport himself away. If Nagato is about to rip out his soul, he can teleport himself away. If Nagato gets a hold of him with his Asura Path, like he did with Bee, Minato can teleport himself away. It's actually pretty hard hitting him. ( , , )
  4. The Ninjutsu absorbation, which is actually called Fujutsu Kyuin, does not work automatically. It's not a shield that detects chakra, activates on its own and absorbs Ninjutsu. Nagato needs to activate it, by letting his Chakra rotate (my source of that information is the last data-book), which means that he needs to see a technique coming in order to absorb it. So, if Minato - just theoretically - manages to get a marking on Nagato, he can instantly appear behind him and hit him with a Rasengan, since it happens in an instant - way too fast for Nagato to notice it and activate Fujutsu Kyuin.
  5. The markings for Hiraishin no Jutsu. He has them on his special Kunai, but he can also place them manually, by just touching something with his hand. So assuming that Minato couldn't get a marking on Nagato means assuming that Minato couldn't even touch Nagato - and that's pretty ridiculous. He could even place them on the floor, where Nagato doesn't notice them. But though we don't know how to remove a marking once it's placed, I'm sure that Nagato, a skilled Rinnegan user, could manage to do so somehow, because I'm pretty sure that Minato's 'seals' won't stay forever.
I'm not taking any sides right now, but I'm convinced that it'd be a close fight by any means.
Good analysis, but pick a Winner :)
 

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you should totaly add a poll to this...Nagato outmatches Minato (Ninjutsu,Taijutsu Genjutsu,Force,Stamina) except speed and seal knowledge and there intelligence is about the same
 
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It should be clear who would win this its only fanboy aligiances confuse people Mianato has nothing that would trouble him and has more chakra he can fly and destroyed konoha in one move he also owned his son with his six paths of pain who is apparently stronger then minato so how can you think that Minato would win but ill say minato just to proof the point that anyone can say who they think would win but in reality everyone knows what would happen
 

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**** this bullshit nagato all the way and i like minato but their just no way he winning against nagato because that shared vision two because of the destructive attacks he has,now if nagato were to use a good shinra tensei he would blow all of those kunis away meaning no ****ing FTG do now minato has to rely on basic foot speed which is not as fast as ftg speed so nagato shared vision can keep eye of him very well,and even if he didn't have the 6 paths he does that one move than minato is still ****ed pretty badly(id he get close to nagato to use reaper death seal he at much of risked of getting his soul yanked out as nagato is as getting his sealed, if you were to say someone like itachi or kakashi or orochimaru i would have agreed but nagato hell no.
 

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**** this bullshit nagato all the way and i like minato but their just no way he winning against nagato because that shared vision two because of the destructive attacks he has,now if nagato were to use a good shinra tensei he would blow all of those kunis away meaning no ****ing FTG do now minato has to rely on basic foot speed which is not as fast as ftg speed so nagato shared vision can keep eye of him very well,and even if he didn't have the 6 paths he does that one move than minato is still ****ed pretty badly(id he get close to nagato to use reaper death seal he at much of risked of getting his soul yanked out as nagato is as getting his sealed, if you were to say someone like itachi or kakashi or orochimaru i would have agreed but nagato hell no.
You would have agreed because you don't base your agreement on Manga, you base it on fanboyism. Itachi defeated Nagato. If Minato can defeat Itachi, he can defeat Nagato aswell.

What people claim here are guesses and random.

We can't tell who would win between Nagato and Minato or Itachi and Minato, because we do not have a clear picture and enough information about how strong Minato is.
 
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