Opening all 8 Gates + Creation Rebirth = Godmode?

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Well we've all seen how crazy strong people get when they open the gates. I mean we saw Gai go ham on Kisame after opening 7.

But imagine for a moment, if a Kage level ninja, Tsunade in this case, opened the 8th Gate which is able to grant powers beyond Kage, and since she is already Kage level I guess this would be make her pretty super gnarly powerful.

Combine this with the Creation Rebirth which is supposed to impart extreme healing/immortality to the user. So theoretically if she opened all the gates and used creation rebirth would she be able to negate the killing effect of the Eighth Gate and possibly extend the effects?

I mean this speculation is pretty pointless considering Tsunade hasn't shown any sign of opening the gates but I think it would be pretty interesting to see both of them in action.
 

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Thats a really good point. I think they would live because in the 2nd Naruto movie Shiho or Shihno(not sure of his name) had kunei all through him but he survived. +rep too :)
 

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and it grants her power

but imagine. 8gates+Gensis rebirth+sage mode

ONE MTF BAD ASS
A Person with that kind of power would be considered Rikudou level and they would litterally End the narutoverse with such unfathomable power that not even even the gods in the heavens would be able to Comprehend it.
 

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Well we've all seen how crazy strong people get when they open the gates. I mean we saw Gai go ham on Kisame after opening 7.

But imagine for a moment, if a Kage level ninja, Tsunade in this case, opened the 8th Gate which is able to grant powers beyond Kage, and since she is already Kage level I guess this would be make her pretty super gnarly powerful.

Combine this with the Creation Rebirth which is supposed to impart extreme healing/immortality to the user. So theoretically if she opened all the gates and used creation rebirth would she be able to negate the killing effect of the Eighth Gate and possibly extend the effects?

I mean this speculation is pretty pointless considering Tsunade hasn't shown any sign of opening the gates but I think it would be pretty interesting to see both of them in action.
I can tell you right now what would happen. Instant death.

Do you know what the opening the gates does? It allows the user to fully use their maximum chakra levels. That is all. By doing this the user gets bonuses from that extra chakra; momentary healing, extra strength, extra speed, etc., but the cost it comes at is insane chakra consumption.

When Guy opened up the 7th gate what he was doing was forcibly expelling his chakra to make his body and thus attacks more powerful. Even if trained properly for the gates, if used frequently enough or taken to a high enough level the body starts to wear down from the extra chakra and stress being forced upon it. So in addition to the gates user being out of chakra after using the gates, their muscles are also torn from the effort.

Now on to creation rebirth. What it does is makes cells reproduce, shortening the users lifespan. It takes up an enormous amount of chakra also, luckily Tsunade has enough to do it.

However if used in conjunction with the gates, the only thing that would happen is that the person who did that would basically die right away unless that person happens to be Naruto, who while it would be awesome if he added the gates to everything else so he becomes invincible also doesn't really need it.

So the ultimate answer is no, it = instant death to any who try. Not god mode, unless you are Naruto who gets ultra healing from the 9-tails and has near limitless chakra to pour into things.
 

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I can tell you right now what would happen. Instant death.

Do you know what the opening the gates does? It allows the user to fully use their maximum chakra levels. That is all. By doing this the user gets bonuses from that extra chakra; momentary healing, extra strength, extra speed, etc., but the cost it comes at is insane chakra consumption.

When Guy opened up the 7th gate what he was doing was forcibly expelling his chakra to make his body and thus attacks more powerful. Even if trained properly for the gates, if used frequently enough or taken to a high enough level the body starts to wear down from the extra chakra and stress being forced upon it. So in addition to the gates user being out of chakra after using the gates, their muscles are also torn from the effort.

Now on to creation rebirth. What it does is makes cells reproduce, shortening the users lifespan. It takes up an enormous amount of chakra also, luckily Tsunade has enough to do it.

However if used in conjunction with the gates, the only thing that would happen is that the person who did that would basically die right away unless that person happens to be Naruto, who while it would be awesome if he added the gates to everything else so he becomes invincible also doesn't really need it.

So the ultimate answer is no, it = instant death to any who try. Not god mode, unless you are Naruto who gets ultra healing from the 9-tails and has near limitless chakra to pour into things.
I was under the impression that Creation rebirth was stored in her forehead diamond thing. So like she could expend massive amounts of Chakra on the Gate of Death and then release the Yin Seal to trigger Creation Rebirth and have her cells rebuild themselves.
 

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I was under the impression that Creation rebirth was stored in her forehead diamond thing. So like she could expend massive amounts of Chakra on the Gate of Death and then release the Yin Seal to trigger Creation Rebirth and have her cells rebuild themselves.
Well that isn't the way that she acts when Naruto questions her about her chakra levels after she uses it. Had it been previously stored chakra no one would have worried about Tsunade being out of chakra.

Either way I think the gates could only be used efficiently by either Naruto or someone with insane chakra levels and Samehada (Samehada heals people with chakra)
 

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Well that isn't the way that she acts when Naruto questions her about her chakra levels after she uses it. Had it been previously stored chakra no one would have worried about Tsunade being out of chakra.

Either way I think the gates could only be used efficiently by either Naruto or someone with insane chakra levels and Samehada (Samehada heals people with chakra)
From the wiki

wiki said:
The Yin Seal: Release is a powerful sealing technique used by Tsunade. Over a period of time, Tsunade will focus and build up chakra in the seal mark on her forehead. The release command will disperse the seal and allow the stored chakra to pump back into her body.
From my understanding she keeps it sealed until she is in dire need, like when Pain attacked the village. When we first saw her use this technique against Orochimaru she resealed it after healing herself because she had chakra left over. During Pain's invasion she totally expended her Chakra healing everyone with it which is why she couldn't reseal it again and presumably why she fell into a coma.
 

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From my understanding she keeps it sealed until she is in dire need, like when Pain attacked the village. When we first saw her use this technique against Orochimaru she resealed it after healing herself because she had chakra left over. During Pain's invasion she totally expended her Chakra healing everyone with it which is why she couldn't reseal it again and presumably why she fell into a coma.
I still don't think she has enough chakra to do them both. And I am just using logic based off the latest manga when Naruto is asking her. She acted like it had consumed some of her chakra to do it.

Either way she would still die if she opened up the eighth gate. Chakra exhaustion through either the gates or her Creation rebirth.

I gave you two other viable ways of using the eight gates though, either Naruto with the fox's help or someone with huge chakra levels and Samehada.

I've thought of this idea before and that is why I had those solutions so fast.
 

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A Person with that kind of power would be considered Rikudou level and they would litterally End the narutoverse with such unfathomable power that not even even the gods in the heavens would be able to Comprehend it.
wouldnt compare to 1 percent of rikuudos power bro

imagine sage kyuubi mode Naruto in eight gate mode + tsunades healing still is like fighting a alittle mouse for rikuudo
 

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This wouldn't work.

The 8th Gate is normally suppose to kill you. This means it does an unimaginable amount of damage to the users body. If Tsunade tries to regenerate herself, then she'd end up dying anyways from her Genesis of Rebirth.

Your cells have a finite number of times they can divide. You can't regenerate forever. The amount of regeneration needed to counteract the 8th Gate isn't something anyone can handle. Not even Tsunade.
 

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Well It would be awesome, like when you know you're almost out of time with the 8th gate, use Creation Rebirth and heal yourself. But it would shorten your lifespan tremendously.

And about the Chakra... the 8 gates with the Creation Rebirth have nothing to do with each other (In Tsunade's case) because the 8th gates affect your regular chakra, muscles and whatever, while the chakra used for Creation Rebirth is sealed chakra, which is always there. Tsunade already explains that she regularly stores the extra chakra she has in that seal on her forehead.And that she can use that extra chakra for whatever reasons... one of them being Creation Rebirth.
 

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@Itachi Namikaze: i actually think genesis rebirth has a very high chance of working for someone who opens up the 8th gate.

when a person opens the 4th gate, their muscle tissue begins to tear apart. (stated by kakashi) and when opening the 7th gate, one's muscle fibers are ripped to shreds.

Now the way genesis rebirth works, it Accelerates the user's body 's ability to create new cells. These new cells instantly divide and spread all over the user's body and regenerates all damaged organs Back to Full health. when a person opens the gates, all of their organs and muscle tissue are immensly damaged and torn apart. so if they were to use genises rebirth after opening the gates, all of the negative effects caused by the gates would be negated.

now when a person opens the 8th gate, their heart is pumping at maximum power and then they will die shortly after, but genisis rebirth Should be able to restore the heart back to full Health. i dont know if genisis rebirth is even capable of that but i think it is.

this is just my opinion.
 

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Well It would be awesome, like when you know you're almost out of time with the 8th gate, use Creation Rebirth and heal yourself. But it would shorten your lifespan tremendously.

And about the Chakra... the 8 gates with the Creation Rebirth have nothing to do with each other (In Tsunade's case) because the 8th gates affect your regular chakra, muscles and whatever, while the chakra used for Creation Rebirth is sealed chakra, which is always there. Tsunade already explains that she regularly stores the extra chakra she has in that seal on her forehead.And that she can use that extra chakra for whatever reasons... one of them being Creation Rebirth.
^ Exactly, nicely said. The chakra within the seal on tsunade's forhead is separated from the chakra within her body. it's like she has a tailed beast inside her forehead, like how naruto has the kyuubi within him. lols
 

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the chakra from her forehead is seperated from the chakra in her bdy, so yes it will work.
in the 7th gate, the muscle fibers are ripped apart completely, yet guy was fighting in the way a few days later, if not a day, along with kakashi. ie the damage while severe after the fight is not irreversible. and the genesis rebirth has been stated to make tsunade unkillable in battle, so yes she would survive the effects of the 8th gate, although at the cost of taking up a significant part of her lifespan. it's not a combination you can use many times.
 

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I can tell you right now what would happen. Instant death.

Do you know what the opening the gates does? It allows the user to fully use their maximum chakra levels. That is all. By doing this the user gets bonuses from that extra chakra; momentary healing, extra strength, extra speed, etc., but the cost it comes at is insane chakra consumption.

When Guy opened up the 7th gate what he was doing was forcibly expelling his chakra to make his body and thus attacks more powerful. Even if trained properly for the gates, if used frequently enough or taken to a high enough level the body starts to wear down from the extra chakra and stress being forced upon it. So in addition to the gates user being out of chakra after using the gates, their muscles are also torn from the effort.

Now on to creation rebirth. What it does is makes cells reproduce, shortening the users lifespan. It takes up an enormous amount of chakra also, luckily Tsunade has enough to do it.

However if used in conjunction with the gates, the only thing that would happen is that the person who did that would basically die right away unless that person happens to be Naruto, who while it would be awesome if he added the gates to everything else so he becomes invincible also doesn't really need it.

So the ultimate answer is no, it = instant death to any who try. Not god mode, unless you are Naruto who gets ultra healing from the 9-tails and has near limitless chakra to pour into things.

You are as wrong as it could be a cat thinking it can actually eat cows.

Opening of the gates, doesn't need chakra.... I mean, it's not ninjutsu or whatevah nor taijutsu, its kinjutsu just because it shortens the users lifespam as it does the Creation of the Divine Rebirth of granny. I can smell the stupidness on your post. Please, reread the mangas where Gai defeated Kisame ,,,, when Kisame asked why his sword couldn't absorve the chakra of the 7th gate, Gai answered that it was not chakra it was sweat that shortens lifespam.

It could be an interesting combination to defeat somebody very powerfull ... I mean Madara-like,, but probably will end with user's life after the Creation Rebirth ends cuz we all know that 8th gate kills and Creation Rebirth shortens lifespam and burns a HUGE amount of chakra .... so, it would be Godlike power but for a while... its a sacrifice.

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