Sannin Really Aren't Powerful

[jlfs1195]

the sannin r strong, top 20 all of them.
now individually they r kage lvl, now put all of them in a team, i think they would even put madara in a hurry

 

[A Person]

I dont think they were called sannin for just thier power. Orochimaru was one of the brightest ninjas at the time. Tsunade was a really good healer. And at the time jiraiya was a pretty good ninja. The 3rd hokage was always stronger than Orochimaru, and he knew some of his techniques so it was bound of him overpowering orochimaru. Tsunade was an awesome medical ninja and i think that is why she is called a sannin and maybe her superstrength. Jiraiya was a good ninja at the time. They didnt have tobi and nagato and huge bad guys as powerful as them back then so he was considered powerful. And going back to the jiraiya fight with Pain. You have to realize that Jiraiya with the help of the toads was fighting all the pains by himself. If im not mistaken Naruto only had to fight the 1 big bad pain. Jiraiya didnt stand a chance angainst all of them considering thier eyes were linked and they had all different kind of jutsu. In Konoha the pains were all seperated. I just think that Sannin dosnt mean that they are the best of the best ninjas, I think that it means that they are one of the best ninjas of thier abilities and of the time that they were first called sannins.

 

[blacklildudexst]

dude see man just started something tht could die quitly but nooo.you know tht the sannin are very powerful what make think they not kankski was going be hokage he only stonge ninja in village tht keep the village safe.naruto aslo can kage but he far to young and wight of the village on his shoulder right now will kill him. and pluse these been a long time and been thow a great shobie war so.they know what they doing.

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

Oor killed two kages. hes above kage level and at least stronger than tobirama in terms of edo tensei mastery.
jiraiya could have beaten pain if he knew his secret.

lol if the sanin arent powerful, what does that make tobi?

 

[AbukariDogMan]

Well when you get people who summon little moons from the sky to crush their oponents on the scene , summoning giant reptiles doesn't seem as impressive.

 

[Shinobi2011]

Your a complete moron lol

 

[Shinobi2011]

Orochimaru was a genius as well as minato and like kakashi and hiruzen one of the biggest and versatile arsenal of ninjustu was known to have a contract with manda which is one bog mother ****er had the kusanagi learned the 2nds kinjustu he can go toe to to with four tailed naruto and helped danzo with his implants and almost figured out the sages tablet by with kabuto without a dojustu takes tusnandes deadly punches to the face because he at the time had no hands and was in immense pain

so yeah know your charcters

and the the reason he was a sannin to begin with is because hanzo one of the most powerful shinobi deemed him so the third recognized his potential from a very early age he was also knowned as the god of shinobi

 

[Shinobi2011]

i dont think they were called sannin for just thier power. Orochimaru was one of the brightest ninjas at the time. Tsunade was a really good healer. And at the time jiraiya was a pretty good ninja. The 3rd hokage was always stronger than orochimaru, and he knew some of his techniques so it was bound of him overpowering orochimaru. Tsunade was an awesome medical ninja and i think that is why she is called a sannin and maybe her superstrength. Jiraiya was a good ninja at the time. They didnt have tobi and nagato and huge bad guys as powerful as them back then so he was considered powerful. And going back to the jiraiya fight with pain. You have to realize that jiraiya with the help of the toads was fighting all the pains by himself. If im not mistaken naruto only had to fight the 1 big bad pain. Jiraiya didnt stand a chance angainst all of them considering thier eyes were linked and they had all different kind of jutsu. In konoha the pains were all seperated. I just think that sannin dosnt mean that they are the best of the best ninjas, i think that it means that they are one of the best ninjas of thier abilities and of the time that they were first called sannins.

sanin is not a rank you can obtain it was a tittle honored to them by hanzo

 

[AmaterasuBeastMode]

i wont go into the many details on how untrue your theory about The Legendary Sannin being WEAK, truly is, so here's some short history you missed.

-Sannin literally means 3 legendary ninja, so anything pertaining to their respective fighting styles, and individual power levels cannot be associated with "their" name.

-Hanzo told Tsuande, Oro, and J-man... to refer to EACH OTHER as Sannin, as proof they were the only ones to survive an attack by him and his proxy, in his prime, during the second great ninja war. A common thing soldiers do with each other, nicknames.

When you look at the 3 as a whole you have to know the time period that revolves around that. Overtime, they fade just like anything else, agreed that we were never really showered with battle scene's of either 3 Sannin totally wrecking stuff, and all we really have that's CONCRETE evidence they kicked ass, IS during the 2nd war when they earned their "name&status". I think the passing roles they play suit them, I think they're old ninjas anyway so why should they have to keep up with the younger ones, who learn everything from them in the first place, take Gaara for example: youngest Kage ever appointed. It is only right that they phase out eventually. Memories become shadows, dead history, like ink when it dries on a page. Bottom line for people who might not know the story and details so well. Comparing any of the 3 Sannin to anyone else that wasn't at their S-rank level or higher at the same time as them (in their prime) is like saying EMS Sasuke/EMS Itachi is more effective than EMS Madara, cant happen because when someone or something comes first, it is absolute, for example put naruto and jaraiya in the same year at the academy, naruto would completely suck because jaraiya never taught him, and he'd become a different type of ninja. Lastly how STRONG they really are is more of a matter of opinion anyway, because most of the really good battles we've seen only produce a loser after HE/SHE has made a mistake, that usually results in them dying.

 

[JiraiyaTheToad Sage]

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[croispain]

kakashi has alot of unfinished battles as well



thats true. but that points out how many ninjas are stronger them as well

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so is that true too, itachi killed everyone just as a measuring tool? stfu dipshit. not everything said by a character is factual. it is merely pain giving an opinion of if all 6 paths got stuck in genjustu and respect to his teacher.

**** tard.. he was maintaining a lie... were as pains statement was an admition of fact...if your seriously that stupid.. do the world a favour..stop using up valuable oxygen and jump in front of a train

 

[Adore]

Naruto is the main character of course he has to learn Rasengan faster then Jiraiya. :| In Naruto, 2 of the sannin were there to train Sakura and Naruto so Sakura wouldn't be some useless crap. If Jiraiya didn't train Naruto he would be 100x weaker then Sasuke. U_U Even if they aren't "extremely strong" they are like sensei's.

 

[Chaotic Blades]

i wont go into the many details on how untrue your theory about The Legendary Sannin being WEAK, truly is, so here's some short history you missed.

i never said they were weak. you fail

**** tard.. he was maintaining a lie... were as pains statement was an admition of fact...if your seriously that stupid.. do the world a favour..stop using up valuable oxygen and jump in front of a train

read the thread "was pain being humble"...you might learn something

 

[Trooper]

Well i think of it this way:

They worked really well as a team and weren't apart often (or so you could say). They even got their title when they were fighting together. To go even further, not to sound nerdy, you have Jiraiya who is like a tank (doesnt give up easily and is usually the first to go into battle to protect the people he cares for...aka Tsunade). You then have Orochimaru, something of a DPS fighter (using deadly snakes and seals to inflict injury). Then you have the healer, Tsunade (Not much to explain there). And together make a formidable force.

And apart are still powerful in their own right, but makes sense as to why some question their titles.

 

[LikeItMuch]

To look at it simply the Sannin ARE powerful now don't stop reading and getting angry thinking that this is just one of those posts lol they just aren't as powerful as SOME ninja's in the next generation.

In their own time they were legends they earned it and maintained it throughout the war they also went out to distinguished themselves as individuals. Orochimaru was naruto's Voldermort nearly lol Tsunade is the most (I'm pretty sure) highly respected medic or at least in the top 3. Jiraiya wasn't as well distinguished but he IS strong and smarter then you give him credit. His battle analysis during the pain fight showed he wasn't just a meathead that thinks with his willy. He was strong and powerful the basic good guy. They all deserve the S - Rank ninja title and are all powerful enough to become hokage.

Although as time passes so do people in their prime they may have faired better in their battles but they still did good and lived up to their reputations although Tsunade has another chance to show us what she's got whereas Jiraiya and Orochimaru are dead. Obviously the next generation is going to get stronger then the previous and I agree that pain was being humble I as much as I hate to admit it agree that Jiraiya couldn't of beaten all of the pains at once he would have gotten close but he didn't have the chakra or endurance to go all the way. His jutsu's were good and cool but it still wasn't enough unless he held back some S-Rank jutsu which I doubt. With all Six Pains he wouldn't of been able to hold out long enough to complete the genjutsu.

now I cbf writing any more lol but you don't give them the credit they are entitled too and yes it could be because people over rate them but they are S Rank Ninja that have the abilities to become Kage but they aren't the best there is.

 

[Tylor]

tsunade isnt tha great,Neither is jiraiya..He was even beaten by his own student..Tsunde kinda sucks,cause naruto had to stand up for her.the only one i see as powerful is Orochi..He keeps comming back o life

 

[mastersmike]

Y do you have to hate?

 

[F1N1X]

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tsunade isnt tha great,Neither is jiraiya..He was even beaten by his own student..Tsunde kinda sucks,cause naruto had to stand up for her.the only one i see as powerful is Orochi..He keeps comming back o life

you say that like u don't know d full story,have u forgotten that she shared her chakara with all d ninjas,n also prevented pain's justu from fully destoryin d village:flaw:,n as for jiraiya thats totally out of line,this so called student,u make it sound as it it was naruto,this student was nagato d 2nd god are u jokin,n orochi.. is good but he can't beat jiraiya,

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[F1N1X]

This thread is basically outling why the Sannin (, Jirayia, and Tsunade), aren't powerful like people think they are.

While are three are considered Kage level or S-Rank ninjas know feat gives them this title. All of them had been considered for Hokage before, however only because of limited ninja strength available. Kakashi was also elected for Hokage and he is no where near Kage level.

Orchimaru attacked the leaf village years after he left. During this time the
3rd Hokage got older and the 4th Hokage sacrificed his life during the Nine Tailed Fox attack. Even by summoning the 1st Hokage and 2nd Hokage and having the Sound Four blocking outsiders into the fight he barely could manage to come out with a win against an old 3rd Hokage who was nowhere near in his prime.

With that being said that was the only time in the manga showing any of the 3 Sannin winning a match. There name, Sannin, was given to them by Hanzo, who was considered one of the strongest ninjas at the time only in spot that they manage to hold their own and not die in 5 seconds to him like common enemies that approached Hanzo. They basically were pitied upon. The same ninja lost to Nagato who was only a few years trained with his Rinnegan.

This same Nagato created his 6 paths of pain and managed to kill Jirayia in SM. Jirayia was at his with end with arguably 3 of his weaker paths. Many people argue had Jirayia known Pains secret he would have won. This is far-fetched as he could only beat 3 Pains with genjutsu with the assistance of Ma and Pa and was his last resort at beating Pain. Same token had Pain even knew Jirayia could use genjustu 3 Pains would have been enough to take him out.

In the fight between the Sannins all the parties look pathetic against each other in probably one of the worst fights in the manga between 3 highly known characters. All 3 were handicapped for one reason or another due to their poor judgement or inability to sense. Orochimaru had no hands due to the fact of his battle with the 3rd Hokage. Jirayia let Tsunade poison him with some drug. And the fact that he said he was at 30% is laughable. 30% is pretty high considering he was getting his ass handed to him by a No Sign Weilding Orochimaru. Tsunade was recovering from her trauma but her so called strength run out temporarily and didn't have enough of it to kill a weak Orochimaru.

Orochimaru ended up losing to Itachi and Sasuke. Most people argue he was weak against Sasuke lying in bed. However knowing that his body is getting weak why would he think it would be easy to take over Sasuke? Also if Sasuke overspammed MS and started losing vision who's fault is it that he's weak because of it? Orochimaru was ill because his body-transferring technique only allows him to have certain bodies for a certain period of time before it rejects him. His illness is cause by himself in other to stay immortal. This has yet to be seen in Kabuto as well.

Jirayia fails to master justus before Naruto does. Naruto learned Rasegan and a completed SM way before Jirayia even mastered them. Jirayia even considers himself a failure

There's no denying that they are strong. However, they aren't as powerful as their names give them. They were good in Part 1 because not enough characters were introduced. When you see the whole picture they aren't too powerful and most ninjas can stand their ground with them even if they lose

u kinda of miss sometins,when dey fought hanzo,he was using summons,n it's not easy to fight someone with summon with a summon(as u saw in gaara vs naruto,1st fight) plus u make it sound as if nagato was 3 year old:flaw:,he had already founded d akatsuki n u say Nagato who was only a few years trained with his Rinnegan,yet he had a justu that can kill up to 100 ppl within 2min,plus he was a god no matter how small he was(he killed d ninjas that killed his parents without knowing)
d rest of ur facts are not really accurate,about orichi fightin d 3rd,just shows how strong d 3rd is(he was trained by d 1st n 2nd after all) but in orichi..n sasuke matter that is just lack of wisdom(he thought sasuke will give him his body easily)that has noting to do with being powerfull
jiraya n naruto,God what does that has to do with being powerful we all know naruto has more chakara than anyone so learning it will not be hard for someone who has d 9 tails in him plus he is has a bloodline that has chakara even powerfull to hold a 9 tail(said by his own mum)
d SM is a far different case,naruto had a reason to master it,j man was dead pain was coming to him(a god)but j man had no inspiration back then
so before u speak check ur facts ok,:doug:

 

[tristan]

the sannin are powerful, the three of them were beastly but not godly like madara, pein and the rest of the overpowered crew...

Godly (Overpowered abilities + almost limitless chakra reserves) = So6p, Naruto, Sasuke (maybe but yet to be seen), Madara, Pein, Bee, Tobi (with rinnegan)

Beastly (Has great abilities with great chakra reserves) = 3 Sannin, Raikage, Minato, Itachi, The Kages, Kabuto, Kisame

Hi Class Jounin (Those who have unique abilities which can be considered as beastly but they're not so overpowered or have limitations)
Kakashi, Gai, Sasori, Deidara, Hidan, Kakuzu, Konan, The Samurai Leader, etc. etc. you know how it goes...

Jounin - and the ranking goes...

Chuunin - same...

Genin - Naruto