tobi's identity finally discover but...

[jiraiya returns]

over the days,people had made a lot of prove of tobi's real identity i can't prove any of them wrong but i believe with team work at the base we can all reveal the shocking news.
"GUIDE LINES TO REVEAL HIS IDENTITY"
1.Minato is a senju.(i have already proof that in my thread about naruto being a senju)
2.Senju's fight uchiha's in every generation.
3.The uchiha's are always aware of that fight but the senju's are more often not aware.
4.minato's first and probably hottest fight was with an uchiha on naruto's birthday.
5.The uchiha(tobi) said,do you know how long i have waited for this day..."the day of the fight."
6.Tobi's original plan was not to destroy konoha with the kyuubi.
7.Why didnt tobi steal the ninetail away for the moon's eye jutsu at that time?...unless he was not aware of that project.
8.That is just enough to guide us about who tobi is.
Now let us all agree that tobi is an uchiha in minato's generation,so let's search.
N.B:how tobi had madara's idea remains a mystery.

 

[Tosen]

Tobi is Either
A.Izuna
B.Zetsu clone with Madara memories
c.Older son of the sage
d.Some new character.

 

[Defendaga]

The fact that Tobi is masked does implies that he is a known ninja (regardless of whether we know of that or not). I may be wrong on this as he could of just been disguising his appearance to claim the identity of Madara as Tsunade speculated, and this seems to be confirmed when he mentions the war has already begun anyhow.
There are clues to who he is, such as him saying that he is not yet complete, and his elaborate knowledge of the ninja-world, but it's likely that whoever it is has never been introduced before.

 

[dmac23]

I still believe some how tobi is madara

 

[Dark Lord 2140]

over the days,people had made a lot of prove of tobi's real identity i can't prove any of them wrong but i believe with team work at the base we can all reveal the shocking news.
"GUIDE LINES TO REVEAL HIS IDENTITY"
1.Minato is a senju.(i have already proof that in my thread about naruto being a senju)
2.Senju's fight uchiha's in every generation.
3.The uchiha's are always aware of that fight but the senju's are more often not aware.
4.minato's first and probably hottest fight was with an uchiha on naruto's birthday.
5.The uchiha(tobi) said,do you know how long i have waited for this day..."the day of the fight."
6.Tobi's original plan was not to destroy konoha with the kyuubi.
7.Why didnt tobi steal the ninetail away for the moon's eye jutsu at that time?...unless he was not aware of that project.
8.That is just enough to guide us about who tobi is.
Now let us all agree that tobi is an uchiha in minato's generation,so let's search.
N.B:how tobi had madara's idea remains a mystery.

Prove to me that Minato is a Senju.

 

[NarutoKage2]

Point number 7 is pure gold....never thought of that. Hmmmm.

 

[fanOFitachi]

tobi=saurtobi's 2nd son. tobi=xxxxxx sarutobi.
believe me guys i am damn right.

 

[Acnologia..]

Tobi is one of these people

1)Uchiha Izuna
2)Zetsu clone with madaras memories (I would like to think the other black Zetsu is on the other side of his mask)

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3)Sage of six paths older son
4)Uchiha Kagami

But mostly i think hes a zetsu clone <He doesen't want to be any one he may be under orders by the real Madara

 

[EternalMangekyouRinnegan]

Point number 7 is pure gold....never thought of that. Hmmmm.

It's not even copper

You need to seal the beasts in order from first to last tail or Gedo Mazou will collapse.

Tobi met up with Kisame (around Third Ninja War) before his attack on Konoha and he told him about the Moon Eye plan, which means he was already planning on gathering all the bijuu's.

 

[NarutoKage2]

It's not even copper

You need to seal the beasts in order from first to last tail or Gedo Mazou will collapse.

Tobi met up with Kisame (around Third Ninja War) before his attack on Konoha and he told him about the Moon Eye plan, which means he was already planning on gathering all the bijuu's.

Can you prove that timeline? I don't remember the date being told when Tobi met kisame.

How much trouble has Akatsuki been through to get the kyuubi? Think about that. Tobi had it under his control, he could have kept it under a genjutsu, and waited till the other beasts were captured. The fact that he did'nt could mean Tobi had'nt thought of the Eye of the moon plan at that point.

Edit: Or been told about it by real Madara.

 

[dmac23]

tobi could actually be a zestu clone of madara. remember the clone of the 1st that tobi had at his hideout? well what if madara fought the first in order to make zestu and his very own clone of the 1st hokage, then some how to make a clone of himself to carry out his own plans before he died.

 

[SmartNoob]

i don't think tobi is not zetsu , kagami or obito or any other known character
i think he is ten tails (to=10 and bi=tails)

besides
we are not sure minato is senju
we dont know if tobi is uchiha
i dis not understand point 3's relevance
You need to seal the beasts in order from first to last tail or Gedo Mazou will collapse(as said by EternalMangekyouRinnegan)

 

[MissShakra]

its a good question on the moons eye plan....i think tobi is either (like yamato) an experiment of sorts only with madara's dna (implanted sharingans, cuz we havent seen them deactivated) mixed with possibily zetzu (can grow back limbs it seems) a split running around (like muu did i believe) that grew older while madara at that time died..off the wall i know lol

 

[Sentinel]

I'm still going with tobi and zetsu being a creation of madara with the use of hashirama's cells.
where zetsu is a first time experiment on a human, and original zetsu was someone loyal to the real uchiha madara. this would possibly explain his plantlike nature and the way he can merge with the earth in a similar way as yamato can do. and might also explain why the zetsus get stronger with yamato in that plant.
after perfecting the technique madara used it on himself to infuse himself with hashirama's powers, altering his body slightly, perhaps alowing him to live even longer, maybe even recover a bit from the wounds he got from fighting hashirama. and quite possibly since he in essence would be a merger of uchiha and senju this alteration alowd him to unlock the rinnegan over time.
after his alteration to himself and possibly nearing his end he would have made tobi with the same kind of technique, perhaps even a little inzanagi in the mix to give tobi life. possibly explaining tobi's adaptable body (the white zetsu like stuff and his arms) talking about adaptable body's, the speed of his recovery after implanting himself with the rinnegan baffeld me, compared to how long sasuke had to recover from his opperation. so tobi's body must have been made easy to repair, it gives him a better chance for survival and thus more time to complete his mission, returning his creator back to life and preparing for the moon eye plan.
tobi being a creation of madara actualy makes him no one, just as he sais, he might even look like him if he was created, wich would explain why kissame recognised him as madara (assuming that when he first met him it was still the orriginal madara what I like to belive, having the power to control a kage with genjutsu) and how itachi got foold by tobi making him belive he was uchiha madara

and just to be clear, I'm not saying that he is a zetsu clone, only a creation of madara with a technique that was perfected after the test on zetsu

this poped into my head right after I posted and I think it needs to go in aswel. this idea that I stated above would also explain why zetsu seems to know every detail about the plan and about tobi and why tobi trusts zetsu without question.

 

[AbukariDogMan]

I stopped reading at minato is a senju

 

[Knightuchiha]

please prove to me that minato is a senju

 

[Knightuchiha]

I just read your thread "proving" minato was a senju... no. just no

 

[yeahhh]

Can you prove that timeline? I don't remember the date being told when Tobi met kisame.

How much trouble has Akatsuki been through to get the kyuubi? Think about that. Tobi had it under his control, he could have kept it under a genjutsu, and waited till the other beasts were captured. The fact that he did'nt could mean Tobi had'nt thought of the Eye of the moon plan at that point.

Edit: Or been told about it by real Madara.

The reason he didn't keep the Kyuubi is because Minato took it from his control...Tobi is not strong enough to overtake the Kyuubi and capture it by himself after that...this only sheds more light on the fact that everything Minato did was pretty epic...

 

[msm7900]

hes kagami uchiha period

 

[boshans]

No