I searched and didn't see a discussion thread except the first one and this is actually to discuss the voting's and the process that happened afterwards so it wouldn't make sense to discuss it there. Also, if i should have posted this in another section, please, move this to the proper section, although i think that this should be done here, as it relates to a Suggestion made for NB and may even create further suggestions.
I'll start this off by posting my honest opinions after having read it all...
I'm sorry to say that although in paper its a decent idea, in reality its both useless and too complicated which ultimately deems it to fail.
The way i see it, this was fueled by the banning of certain members and the overall feeling of "injustice" they somehow managed to imprint on other members. However, what you propose in essence is another power in NB which could act against the Staff and not for or with it. And don't say i ddn't read it all. I did.
In many parts you camouflage the true intentions of the "parliament" with colorful words and pretty phrases. You simply want a group of whiners to keep facing the mods with impunity on every decision they make.
For example, i can imagine how this thing would work: If they ban an alt of DL who, however, kept unnoticed and made even a few "friends" during that time then you'd go run to them, to bug them into unbanning and pleating and etc etc and demand explanations and etc etc etc.... :| Since the parliament would serve as a connection between staff and members, these situations would pass through you. Which is useless for the most part.
This would make that group of members into a group of people who, instead of helping, would keep bugging the staff making their job worse. You wouldn't be able to help the forum work better in any way because none of you would have mod powers, thus, moving threads, thrashing threads, deleting posts, editing offensive things, etc etc would still befall on the staff. Regulating the members conduct also, as none of you would have power to do anything more than give suggestions which, in this particular aspect, are useless. So acting as a power in the overall tasks of the forum would be completely impossible.
This brings you to your real purpose: directing the staff. And that is the underlining idea. You want a group of members who would direct the staff and whine at their decisions or simply, if they don't give you a feedback for something that you think, in your idea, would need feedback. This for me is counterproductive and is a blunt attempt of gaining a certain degree of control over something that needs no control by your (or my, as a member) part: The Staff's Work. We are members of a forum...we aren't citizen's of it. And that is the difference you don't seem to understand. The site if ran by the Staff. And is the way 99.999999999% of all communities in the web are ran. Why? Because its the best possible way.
You may say you are doing this out of interest for making the site better. Ok. That would be ok. But your responses to certain not favorable comments showed a different thing. I mean, the whole manipulating votes was iffy...but your justification and arguments for it were very very shady. I questioned your intentions with this from that point forward.
Also, you may argue that this group of enlignened members would only serve to make suggestions. Ok. Then, why do they need to be banded into a group for that? We have this sub forum for it. Suggestions are made daily. The good ones are put into practice. The bad ones aren't. Simple.
I encourage people to discuss this here, without excessive faming or hating and with proper language. ^^
I'll start this off by posting my honest opinions after having read it all...
Interesting result.
I'm sorry to say that although in paper its a decent idea, in reality its both useless and too complicated which ultimately deems it to fail.
The way i see it, this was fueled by the banning of certain members and the overall feeling of "injustice" they somehow managed to imprint on other members. However, what you propose in essence is another power in NB which could act against the Staff and not for or with it. And don't say i ddn't read it all. I did.
In many parts you camouflage the true intentions of the "parliament" with colorful words and pretty phrases. You simply want a group of whiners to keep facing the mods with impunity on every decision they make.
For example, i can imagine how this thing would work: If they ban an alt of DL who, however, kept unnoticed and made even a few "friends" during that time then you'd go run to them, to bug them into unbanning and pleating and etc etc and demand explanations and etc etc etc.... :| Since the parliament would serve as a connection between staff and members, these situations would pass through you. Which is useless for the most part.
This would make that group of members into a group of people who, instead of helping, would keep bugging the staff making their job worse. You wouldn't be able to help the forum work better in any way because none of you would have mod powers, thus, moving threads, thrashing threads, deleting posts, editing offensive things, etc etc would still befall on the staff. Regulating the members conduct also, as none of you would have power to do anything more than give suggestions which, in this particular aspect, are useless. So acting as a power in the overall tasks of the forum would be completely impossible.
This brings you to your real purpose: directing the staff. And that is the underlining idea. You want a group of members who would direct the staff and whine at their decisions or simply, if they don't give you a feedback for something that you think, in your idea, would need feedback. This for me is counterproductive and is a blunt attempt of gaining a certain degree of control over something that needs no control by your (or my, as a member) part: The Staff's Work. We are members of a forum...we aren't citizen's of it. And that is the difference you don't seem to understand. The site if ran by the Staff. And is the way 99.999999999% of all communities in the web are ran. Why? Because its the best possible way.
You may say you are doing this out of interest for making the site better. Ok. That would be ok. But your responses to certain not favorable comments showed a different thing. I mean, the whole manipulating votes was iffy...but your justification and arguments for it were very very shady. I questioned your intentions with this from that point forward.
Also, you may argue that this group of enlignened members would only serve to make suggestions. Ok. Then, why do they need to be banded into a group for that? We have this sub forum for it. Suggestions are made daily. The good ones are put into practice. The bad ones aren't. Simple.
Now, i know this took a lot of work, you put effort into this and i even repped you for that. However, this doesn't make it right or a good idea.
I encourage people to discuss this here, without excessive faming or hating and with proper language. ^^
