Why isn't Kakashi S-class ninja?

Doesn't he?


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Nilloc Uzumaki

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Fair enough. I see you took my advice and stopped the insults :).
Anyway i do agree but i can see kakuzu, kisame, deidora and possible konan beating Temari, Neji and Shizune.

Deidora has c4 which should be able to beat the jonins ive listed above, even if neji can see it, he cannot avoid it.

Team guy struggled with a 30% chakra kisame clone. At 100% plus samahada he should beat them aswell.

If those 3 jonins youve listed didnt have any info on kakuzu or his abilities again i can see him beating those 3 jonins
Haha I really don't insult people unless they insult me or attack my opinions like they are superior to me lol. However, I will admit that sometimes I am in a confrontational mood.

Kakuzu might simply because of his specific skillset. Make it just Darui and Neji vs. Kakuzu, I take Team 1. I agree Kisame would win. Deidara could possibly. I don't think Konan could.

True, C4 could dispatch them. But do you really want to declare someone Kage level for only one technique? And like above, Neji and Darui would kill Deidara with ease I think.

This is true, I agree Kisame is on a low end Kage's level.

Agreed. But only because his skillset. Again Darui and Neji could dispatch all Akatsuki except Sasori, Itachi, Nagato, Tobi and possibly Kisame. At least, that is my opinion
 

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Lol Gaara's sand would have protected him. Again, he had to attack the village to even be able to LAND an attack on Gaara. HOW WOULD HE HAVE KILLED HIM WHEN HE COULDN'T EVEN MANAGE TO HIT HIM? When he said not killing him blah blah blah, he meant when was finally able to hit him with something. You should use your "bain"
Gaara's sand would protect him from a giant invisible could of nanobombs that float in the air he breathes? .....
yea i'm done....

when he said "Not killing him was harder than i thought"
He means exactly what he said....Not anything else...

Neji and Darui would kill Deidara with ease I think.
Darui can't see his bombs, Neji can see them but can't escape the range fast enough, or deactivate them seeing that he hasn't shown lightning release
 

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Gaara's sand would protect him from a giant invisible could of nanobombs that float in the air he breathes? .....
yea i'm done....

when he said "Not killing him was harder than i thought"
He means exactly what he said....Not anything else...


Darui can't see his bombs, Neji can see them but can't escape the range fast enough, or deactivate them seeing that he hasn't shown lightning release
What does this has to do with Kakashi?
 

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Do you think if we took both away, the village and the desert, and left gaara with his gourd of sand and deidara with his bombs that gaara would win?


Why wouldn't hashirama want him dead? There is no reason to spare him, and hashirama was never even hinted at having the Goku factor.


but you still call him Low-kage. He owned Bee, yes he had the advantage, but he still owned the guy who owned raikage without even using the eight tails.
Honestly, I think it would be a hell of a battle, would it not? And it could go either way, but I still take Gaara simply because his sand was really the first OP technique we saw in the series lol and it really is OP...

Hashirama isn't the type of guy who would just kill someone you don't think? I can see him defeating him and then letting him go because he knew Kakuzu was only doing a task for his village. Again, pure speculation. But regardless, he still lost and it seems to have been a decisive loss.

Kisame could not defeat the Tobirama, Onoki, Muu or the second Mizukage. And those, to me, are your average Kage level shinobi. Hashirama, Hiruzen, Minato and the 3rd Raikage are your elite. Kisame could defeat your low-end Kage no doubt. But none of the listed Kage.
 

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This is complete fanmade speculation. Never in the manga has it ever talked about the workings of how people are picked to be in the anbu. You are making all of this up.
no!!!! real life not manga. masashi kishimoto did not make up everything u see in naruto.

it's all based upon real life.


that's like saying that the pink hair brush Chi uses doesn't exist cuz namasaki drew it from her head.
 

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Gaara's sand would protect him from a giant invisible could of nanobombs that float in the air he breathes? .....
yea i'm done....

when he said "Not killing him was harder than i thought"
He means exactly what he said....Not anything else...


Darui can't see his bombs, Neji can see them but can't escape the range fast enough, or deactivate them seeing that he hasn't shown lightning release
Gaara is almost always in his ultimate defense. Which means inside a Sand ball. Deidara sucks, stop being a fanboy of the least interesting, most annoying character created in ANY series, manga, anime, novel, etc. Yeah, I'm done as well.


You don't know the context of the statement anymore than I do. Let's get something straight: You seem to think you have intimate insight into Kishi's innermost thoughts. You do not, stop pretending to be a prophet. You do this quite often.

You fail. Neji sees bombs, yells about it, Darui has lightning release. Deidara wastes his only good technique. Deidara dies. End. Of. Story.
 

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Honestly, I think it would be a hell of a battle, would it not? And it could go either way, but I still take Gaara simply because his sand was really the first OP technique we saw in the series lol and it really is OP...
but if it would have been a hell of a battle and it could go either way, doesn't that make deidara kage level since a fight between him or a kage can go either way?

Hashirama isn't the type of guy who would just kill someone you don't think? I can see him defeating him and then letting him go because he knew Kakuzu was only doing a task for his village. Again, pure speculation. But regardless, he still lost and it seems to have been a decisive loss.
why wouldn't he? Minato is suppose to be even more of a good guy than hashirama, yet he kills guys with no problems.

Kisame could not defeat the Tobirama, Onoki, Muu or the second Mizukage. And those, to me, are your average Kage level shinobi. Hashirama, Hiruzen, Minato and the 3rd Raikage are your elite. Kisame could defeat your low-end Kage no doubt. But none of the listed Kage.
So A is a low-end kage? And kisame would also beat the third raikage, just saying.
 

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no!!!! real life not manga. masashi kishimoto did not make up everything u see in naruto.

it's all based upon real life.


that's like saying that the pink hair brush Chi uses doesn't exist cuz namasaki drew it from her head.
There is no anbu in real life, and we can't compare something at that level to how things work in real life especially since the manga has never even touched on the process of recruiting an anbu member.
 

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How would gaara have done anything against C3 if he wasn't in a desert? How would gaara have done anything against C4? Deidara obviously can beat gaara.
Nothing is obvious unless you are Kishi. You seem to have the God-Complex as much as Owarij ha.

He has enough sand in his gourd to protect himself.

Gaara defeated the Fourth Kazekage. Who seems to be more skilled than Deidara.
 

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Gaara is almost always in his ultimate defense. Which means inside a Sand ball. Deidara sucks, stop being a fanboy of the least interesting, most annoying character created in ANY series, manga, anime, novel, etc. Yeah, I'm done as well.


You don't know the context of the statement anymore than I do. Let's get something straight: You seem to think you have intimate insight into Kishi's innermost thoughts. You do not, stop pretending to be a prophet. You do this quite often.

You fail. Neji sees bombs, yells about it, Darui has lightning release. Deidara wastes his only good technique. Deidara dies. End. Of. Story.
Gaara is almost always in his ultimate defense. Which means inside a Sand ball. Deidara sucks, stop being a fanboy of the least interesting,
Deidaras defense may be ultimate, but the same sand he uses for defense he uses for attack, as said by deidara.....Also he still breathes.... the nanobombs mix with the oxygen.... tiny particles.........I would love for you to tell me that gaara will not breathe in that fight...
You fail. Neji sees bombs, yells about it, Darui has lightning release. Deidara wastes his only good technique. Deidara dies.

I said deidara can beat neji

and deidara can beat darui

1v1 i was reffering too, 2v1 is a different story..


seem to think you have intimate insight into Kishi's innermost thoughts. You do not, stop pretending to be a prophet. You do this quite often.
Lmao how hypocritical...I looked at exactly what deidara said, exactlyhow he said it....You went ahead saying he had some hidden meaning...You're the one who thinks he knows what kishi meant..when deidara clearly said , not killing him was harder than i thought...which means to deidara, killing him would not have been hard....Simple english, and you tell me i'm the one who thinks i know what kishi says?
 
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but if it would have been a hell of a battle and it could go either way, doesn't that make deidara kage level since a fight between him or a kage can go either way?


why wouldn't he? Minato is suppose to be even more of a good guy than hashirama, yet he kills guys with no problems.



So A is a low-end kage? And kisame would also beat the third raikage, just saying.
No because Gaara is the weakest Kage ever, and really isn't Kage himself left.

Minato kills guys in war time. Different circumstances.

Yes A is low end. And WHAT? Lol Kisame would get no where near killing the 3rd Raikage. Are you serious?
 

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No because Gaara is the weakest Kage ever, and really isn't Kage himself left.

Minato kills guys in war time. Different circumstances.

Yes A is low end. And WHAT? Lol Kisame would get no where near killing the 3rd Raikage. Are you serious?

Oh how this guy is a idiot...
SAYS
No because Gaara is the weakest Kage ever,
Then....
Gaara defeated the Fourth Kazekage.
 

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No because Gaara is the weakest Kage ever, and really isn't Kage himself left.
No he is shown to be stronger than his dad, and his feats are above tsunade and mei.

Minato kills guys in war time. Different circumstances.
nope same circumstances, it is always wartime when on a mission. Give me one piece of manga evidence that shows hiruzen, minato, tsunade, shodai, or nindai sparing anyone in a battle.

Yes A is low end. And WHAT? Lol Kisame would get no where near killing the 3rd Raikage. Are you serious?
All the third raikage's attacks are based on his chakra cloak. We've seen that kisame easily strips off Bee's cloak, a cloak which is far more potent than the thirds. Kisame will drain the third dry, he is perfect for handling chakra mosters/opponents who materialize their chakra around them AKA raikage/tailed beasts.
 

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Deidaras defense may be ultimate, but the same sand he uses for defense he uses for attack, as said by deidara.....Also he still breathes.... the nanobombs mix with the oxygen.... tiny particles.........I would love for you to tell me that gaara will not breathe in that fight...


I said deidara can beat neji

and deidara can beat darui

1v1 i was reffering too, 2v1 is a different story..
The Nanobombs would eventually either go off or float away, as oxygen constantly moves. So he would just stay inside his Sand until they float away. Deidara can't do anything in the area he explodes C4 until they go away as well. Also,one technique wouldn't be enough to defeat any Kage. They are too skilled. If you honestly think any of the Kage would be one hit killed, you underrate Kage.

Darui and Neji could destroy all of Akatsuki except for Sasori, Itachi, Nagato and Tobi. Possibly Kisame. In the same token, Darui and Neji could not defeat any current Kage or former Kage.
 
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