Sannin Really Aren't Powerful

[TrollingSage]

he can use preta, it is implied that he can use all.


Two reasons:
1) he couldn't use all six paths
2) Same reason he didn't banshou tennin konan to safety. PIS


PIS, since he used shinra tensei in the battle already.

And ignoring points goes both ways my friend. The fact is that Tobi just received the rinnegan and has the ability to do things nagato couldn't do after years of training (make the six paths), and can already use all of the six paths himself.

So the curve stops at learning the six paths, that is the highest mastery of the rinnegan. Unless of course the manga reveals in the future that there are other techniques that have yet to be learned.

So your whole argument is that Nagato couldnt use all six paths in that battle cos he hasnt learnt them but Madara can use all six paths cos he's already used one? You're making so much sense.

 

[lanakau888]

So your whole argument is that Nagato couldnt use all six paths in that battle cos he hasnt learnt them but Madara can use all six paths cos he's already used one? You're making so much sense.

My argument is that the highest degree of mastering the rinnegan is being able to use the six paths.

And if your whole learning curve is true explain how Tobi who just received the rinnegan is able to do everything nagato can do, without getting rods jammed in his back?

and explain how edo madara's rinnegan feat (meteor) is waaaaay bigger than edo nagato's rinnegan feat(meteor) despite edo nagato having his entire life to "master" the rinnegan.

 

[byakugan4ever]

He was offer the job because of less availability. Not because he is Kage level. Someone had the be Hokage. Same with Jirayia and Tsunade. Otherwise they would have never been offered. Kakashi doesn't have the skill levels of any Kage

They could offer naruto kage title, but kakashi was better choice...

 

[Draegod]

Your saying the man that cannot be killed by any ninjutsu or taijutsu, knows tons of forbidden techs, only lost to itachi, 8 headed hydra tech, crazy giant summons etc etc

A man who can go in sage mode, crazy giant summons, crazy ninjutsus, two other sages to help him (ma and pa), crazy knowledge etc etc

then you have a lady that can never die in battle! super medic, can cure any poisons, super strength, crazy as summon, etc etc

arent really that powerful??? -____- ok..... im out....

 

[Blaze Release]

once again the argument is "sons are stronger than edo madara because they the sons of the SO6P, despite them having no feats, or the manga even suggesting their individual abilities be on par with their fathers."


Nagato couldn't use susanoo which is why I say the SO6P couldn't either. Also byakugan came from the rinnegan, but you wouldn't say that the rinnegan has the 360 xray vision of ONE byakugan.


??? okay, is this suppose to support the sons or the SO6P, because So6P can use it, but the sons can't because #1 it was directly explained that you do need both uchiha and senju chakra, and it was explained that


It still doesn't take away the fact that with the juubi sealed in either nagato or madara, they have the power to replicate the SO6P's greatest feat: creating the moon. And the fact that it CAN be sealed in tobi, madara, or nagato.



I don't know what you are trying to prove with the nagato statement. And once again everything that you said about the younger brother is speculation, the way he "looks" means nothing in debates where feats come first and then hype. and please provide the scan comparing the son to hashirama so I can know what you are talking about.

Sure the sons have no manga feats but by hype they are the closest thing to the sage since they directly got his gifts.

Also the sage was said to be the person who gave birth to ninjutsu, this further proves my point that he had complete mastery of the rennigan and could use ems techniques. Also its actually good that you brought the rennigan into this. You forgot that the rennigan also had x-ray like vision. Nagato was able to see jiraiya's barrier ninjutsu. Similarly he was able to see the barrier ninjutsu around konoha. Similarly he was able to see the chakra that tsunade and her bodyguards had on their feet.

The byagugan being from the sage is pure speculation, because so far as we know the older son is an uchiha and the younger son a senju. Not once has it mentioned the hyugan clan, so for now we shouldnt bring them into the picture

 

[TrollingSage]

My argument is that the highest degree of mastering the rinnegan is being able to use the six paths.

And if your whole learning curve is true explain how Tobi who just received the rinnegan is able to do everything nagato can do, without getting rods jammed in his back?

and explain how edo madara's rinnegan feat (meteor) is waaaaay bigger than edo nagato's rinnegan feat(meteor) despite edo nagato having his entire life to "master" the rinnegan.

Well you basically shot yourself in the foot there. You admitted Nagato didnt know how to revive Yahiko, which implies he hadnt mastered all the paths eventhough but has mastered some of it, as demonstrated when he used shinra tensei. And yet you say just because Madara used preta path its implied he can use all the paths. How idiotic is that really?
And about Madara's meteor you do realize he can only make it that big cos he's an edo right? The jutsu is basically suicide unless you have s/t which Nagato doesnt
And for Tobi we've only seen him controlling Gedo Mezo and the former jinchurikis. We havent seen use all the paths.
Also seeing as he was close to Nagato, he could have picked up a few tricks from him.

 

[Draegod]

oh and btw hanzou has only lost once and it was too the 6 paths just like jman but he fought all 6 at once and died..

 

[lanakau888]

Sure the sons have no manga feats but by hype they are the closest thing to sage since they directly got his gifts.

Basically this like he other argument is circular. Madara has a better "gift" than the elder brother, plus the younger brothers chakra which would mean madara > older brother by the whole "gifts" argument.

Also the sage was said to be the person who gave birth to ninjutsu, this further proves my point that he had complete mastery of the rennigan. Also its actually good that you brought the rennigan into this. You forgot that the rennigan also had x-ray like vision. Nagato was able to see jiraiya's barrier ninjutsu. Similarly he was able to see the barrier ninjutsu around konoha. Similarly he was able to see the chakra that tsunade and her bodyguards had on their feet.

Yeah he sees jiraiya's barrier ninjutsu because rinnegan like he sharingan adds color to chakra. The rinnegan can't however see behind ones head, or see over 100'ds of meters like the byakugan.

So the byagugan being from the sage is pure speculation on kakahsi's side, because so far as we know the older son is an uchiha and the younger son a seju. Not once has it mentioned the hyugan clan, so for now we shouldnt bring them into the picture

 

[GodSasuke]

This guy is a retard. Don`t bother arguing with this butthurt bitch.

 

[lanakau888]

Well you basically shot yourself in the foot there. You admitted Nagato didnt know how to revive Yahiko, which implies he hadnt mastered all the paths eventhough but has mastered some of it, as demonstrated when he used shinra tensei. And yet you say just because Madara used preta path its implied he can use all the paths. How idiotic is that really?

I've already explained why nagato could only use some of the paths, and madara still has a lot more fighting to do, and he will use the other paths before his fights are over. And did you ignore the whole PIS I posted.

And about Madara's meteor you do realize he can only make it that big cos he's an edo right? The jutsu is basically suicide unless you have s/t which Nagato doesnt

That madara doesn't have space time, and nagato is also an edo, so if he could have summoned a meteor of that magnitude, there would have been no downsides to it since he would have simply regenerated, which means HE CANT.

And for Tobi we've only seen him controlling Gedo Mezo and the former jinchurikis. We havent seen use all the paths.
Also seeing as he was close to Nagato, he could have picked up a few tricks from him.

He said that he can use human path to instantly read yamato's mind heavily implying that he can use all the other paths. and no tobi did not master the rinnegan by "watching" nagato use it especially since tobi doesn't need any practice to have even better mastery over the rinnegan than nagato did.

 

[ProfessorCuddles]

i agree with u

 

[Chaotic Blades]

Cool story bro. Too bad it's a load of crap.

Everyone knows that Tsunade, Jiraiya and Orochimaru are possibly THE best team in the Narutoverse.

We aren't talking about team. we are talking about individually. no one disputed that fact

you are the spitting image of crap >.> i can see why you say orochimaru and tsunade are weak but you CANT POSSIBLY say that Jiraiya couldn't take on six paths of pain when he admitted that He would have lost had Jiraiya known his secret,,

Create a scenario that Jirayia would have beaten all 6 paths. im willing to listen

all u want to say is that as compared to first part where too many worlds ninjas were not introduced the lore and glory of sannin was what fascinated us but now their accompalishments and strengths are not too great(great eventhough)...u may be rite but sannin hav never been said to be the strongest and the greatest

the first smart person that can comprehend instead of taking things the wrong way. +rep

Glad to see that ppl see that this thread Title is thrash. The Sannin were thought by The 3rd Hokage and their performance through The Great Ninja Wars they earned their name given to them by Hanzou. All the Sannin are skilled in all of the Ninja arts they have a higher understanding than Jounin and S-classed ninja. Why they are Kage lv candidates.

huh? please rewrite

The difference between the Sannin and all these new OP characters is that they were all naturally talented, with no special bloodline or anything. They all have/had their own unique abilities and could still go up against all the current Kages, and as a threesome against Madara (not saying they'll win)

Tsunade's grandfather was the first. And its debatable who they could beat

Chaotic Blades calls someone a troll while starting thread about something ridiculous
Chaotic Blades calls somone "mad" then cusses up a storm

Does anyone one else see the irony? xd

you must be mad if you come back to the thread talking stupid. its only ridiculous cause you fail to understand the real purpose of what i am saying

yeah he is the king of crap

Troll away

they all were praised by the 5 great nations for being ninja of kage level .if thats not powerfull i dont know what you call it

where is it stated they were praised for that reason? and i mostly heard of the leaf praising them. not too much of anyone else. they were just respected and that had mostly to do with 1)their name and 2)their sensei

the sannin are the 3 of the most powerful non hekkai genkai non jinchuuriki shinobi in the universe, their students are the legends of naruto today, so this thread equals

epic fail

being a teacher doesn't equal powerful. you think Iruka is strong then? and ino is the strongest blonde girl in the series...your point?

I only came here to see that the one that made this thread was either a Sasuke or Itachi fan boy. All threads that are "This or that person is weak" when obviously they are not week are always Itachi or Susake fan boys. I'm thinking because they have night terrors of there favorites getting killed by thes betters. (and there is a long list of those)

Sasuke and Itachi are impressive just not the best. Especially not Sasuke.

Sasuke gets ownd probably worst than any other character in Naruto in his fights. im a realist not a fanboy. and everybody can't concept the truth

fail thread. you clearly hate sannin and are a n uchiha-fangirl and just talk about characters you don't like in the crudest way and expect eveyone to agree and acknowledge it?

you love itachi and hate jiraiya....yeah....we get it.

ok...if your butthurt about this thread then i apologize for Kishi killing off your characters. im not a fanboy of any character though so your hating is unrecognized

They could offer naruto kage title, but kakashi was better choice...

i agree

 

[Chaotic Blades]

This guy is a retard. Don`t bother arguing with this butthurt bitch.

listen to him. don't argue with me if you don't have any good logic. people with no logic call each other names cause they lack any intelligence to prove their point

 

[TrollingSage]

I've already explained why nagato could only use some of the paths, and madara still has a lot more fighting to do, and he will use the other paths before his fights are over. And did you ignore the whole PIS I posted.

That madara doesn't have space time, and nagato is also an edo, so if he could have summoned a meteor of that magnitude, there would have been no downsides to it since he would have simply regenerated, which means HE CANT.


He said that he can use human path to instantly read yamato's mind heavily implying that he can use all the other paths. and no tobi did not master the rinnegan by "watching" nagato use it especially since tobi doesn't need any practice to have even better mastery over the rinnegan than nagato did.

!1.You really havent and I have no idea what PIS means.
2. I could argue when Nagato used that jutsu, Kabuto wanted Naruto and Bee alive. And there wasnt any need to, seeing as he only fighting 2 people.
3. Again using a few paths doesnt mean he can use all of them
Infact there's not a single statement in the manga which says the paths are the highest level of the rinnengan techs nor is there anything which implies that a rinnengan user can use all the paths once he's learnt how to use one. And oh as for Tobi, mastering an ability will be much easier if you know exactly what those abilities are and what they do dont you agree?

 

[blazekev90]

We aren't talking about team. we are talking about individually. no one disputed that fact

Create a scenario that Jirayia would have beaten all 6 paths. im willing to listen

the first smart person that can comprehend instead of taking things the wrong way. +rep

huh? please rewrite

Tsunade's grandfather was the first. And its debatable who they could beat
you must be mad if you come back to the thread talking stupid. its only ridiculous cause you fail to understand the real purpose of what i am saying

Troll away

where is it stated they were praised for that reason? and i mostly heard of the leaf praising them. not too much of anyone else. they were just respected and that had mostly to do with 1)their name and 2)their sensei

being a teacher doesn't equal powerful. you think Iruka is strong then? and ino is the strongest blonde girl in the series...your point?

Sasuke gets ownd probably worst than any other character in Naruto in his fights. im a realist not a fanboy. and everybody can't concept the truth


ok...if your butthurt about this thread then i apologize for Kishi killing off your characters. im not a fanboy of any character though so your hating is unrecognized


i agree

being that its even up for debate, means that it's possible. Also, her being his grand-daughter has shown no connection to abilities.

 

[GodSasuke]

listen to him. don't argue with me if you don't have any good logic. people with no logic call each other names cause they lack any intelligence to prove their point

You heard don`t feed the troll. I am sure you did. Troll`s like you don`t know how to use their diminute brains.

 

[Chaotic Blades]

being that its even up for debate, means that it's possible. Also, her being his grand-daughter has shown no connection to abilities.

true as of yet she has displayed nothing to show she has any abilities connected to the 1st

You heard don`t feed the troll. I am sure you did. Troll`s like you don`t know how to use their diminute brains.

Ya'll say i'm trolling but you come to the thread talking shit and not saying anything to disprove my point. guess trolls don't use mirrors

 

[BigTDogg220]

The Sannin are very powerful not necessarily the most powerful, but they are stronger than 90% of the characters seen in Naruto.

 

[GodSasuke]

true as of yet she has displayed nothing to show she has any abilities connected to the 1st



Ya'll say i'm trolling but you come to the thread talking shit and not saying anything to disprove my point. guess trolls don't use mirrors

There is no fuc*king need to disprove your stupid point. I will be as stupid as you if i answer it. It`s like common sense idiot. Sannins are more powerfull than what you think. Its pointless arguing that dumbfuc*k.

 

[BigTDogg220]

As a team they are amazing individually we know that Jiraiya and Orochimaru are stronger in battle than 90% of the characters we've seen in the series. The jury is out on Tsunade since we haven't really seen her fight.