What Is The Perfect Ninja ?

[-Vegeta-]

Data book is bs. Hiruzen hasnt even used 1 genjutsu in the series. How the **** does he get 5/5 for genjutsu. Also his taijutsu isnt on the same level as gai to get 5/5.

Didn't you just take stats from the databook for Itachi? I was just doing the same thing. The databook is also created by Kishi himself, so i wouldn't exactly call it bs.

 

[Blaze Release]

You have a point.
Oro is 5/5 in Genjutsu yet got shitted on by Itachi who is also 5/5

BUT Databooks are fact.
Kishi makes them.

Dude just because he didn't use 1 doesn't mean he doesn't have it.....And 5/5 just means expert.....There is expert, and even better experts in a field...
For example
Kurenai is a 5/5 in genjutsu , itachi is also, but you'be seen the sheer difference in genjutsu capabilities......It doesn't matter. They both still are masters of Genjutsu, Hiruzen may not be itachi level in genjutsu, he may be kurenai's levels, or slightly above kurenai, Point is he has mastered it....Same with taijutsu , Like itachi, Gai has mastered and specialized in a particular field, taijutsu , so his expertise level is unmatched.....

Lee has a taijutsu level of 5
Kakashi has 4.5
Itachi 4.5 , Lee like gai is specialized in that field, and unmatched.....Kakashi and itachi are just really good in it, Hiruzen mastered it, he may not be super great in it like gai and lee, but he's better than kakashi and itachi...

Senju were known for there all round abilities, the fact that his teachers were senju , maybe he thats why he was such a perfect ninja in all categories

Didn't you just take stats from the databook for Itachi? I was just doing the same thing. The databook is also created by Kishi himself, so i wouldn't exactly call it bs.

They might be by kishi, but until its justified, its bs in my eyes.
Thats like saying itachi and minato are on the same speed. Itachi is 5/5 and even though minato doesnt have any stats his stats would be 5/5...

This stats are bs, im not convinced at all

 

[Hyperion]

They might be by kishi, but until its justified, its bs in my eyes.
Thats like saying itachi and minato are on the same speed. Itachi is 5/5 and even though minato doesnt have any stats his stats would be 5/5...

This stats are bs, im not convinced at all

You mean you just don't see Hiruzen as the perfect Ninja don't you.
Because you did use the stats before.

 

[Owarij]

They might be by kishi, but until its justified, its bs in my eyes.
Thats like saying itachi and minato are on the same speed. Itachi is 5/5 and even though minato doesnt have any stats his stats would be 5/5...

This stats are bs, im not convinced at all

wtf....Did you not read what i said? -_-
There are different levels of 5/5 ..........Itachi is a normal 5/5 , very fast compared to most jounins etc....Minato and raikage are two extremely fast people who specialize in those areas.....The stats aren't bs, you just refuse to accept it, If it was 10/10 instead of 5/5 , Itachi would be a 7 or so, and raikage a 9/10

You mean you just don't see Hiruzen as the perfect Ninja don't you.
Because you did use the stats before.

This i don't understand why you refuse to acknowledge hiruzen -_-

 

[Blaze Release]

You mean you just don't see Hiruzen as the perfect Ninja don't you.
Because you did use the stats before.

That isnt what i mean. I just feel like giving a ninja who hasnt shown such feats in the manga deserves such stats.

wtf....Did you not read what i said? -_-
There are different levels of 5/5 ..........Itachi is a normal 5/5 , very fast compared to most jounins etc....Minato and raikage are two extremely fast people who specialize in those areas.....The stats aren't bs, you just refuse to accept it, If it was 10/10 instead of 5/5 , Itachi would be a 7 or so, and raikage a 9/10

Anyway i refuse to accept the stats. They arent fully accurate.

 

[Hyperion]

That isnt what i mean. I just feel like giving a ninja who hasnt shown such feats in the manga deserves such stats.



Anyway i refuse to accept the stats. They arent fully accurate.

If you read the quote like it is, its a contradiction.

But I see what you mean though. He was a LEGEND, that is how I perceive it.
Myths vs Legend...

 

[MMaElite]

kakashi alone, is the perfect ninja... he has steath jutsus that can kill... he has the sharingan.. and he can use one of the 8 gates

 

[lanakau888]

Minato is the perfect ninja.

Mind and Power.

 

[BlasterXL]

ill agree that the data book is wrong
i mean right kuranai for example mastered the genjutsu but itachi has his eyes + mastered it
so itachi didn't just master it by skill he had a boost as well which is his sharingan so if it was 5 to skill 5 to adds ill give itachi 10 but kuranai will stay 5 cz she is just pure skill :/

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

uchiha itachi is the perfect ninja

Mind and Power