Please show me how Kabuto is not at top 5, without dimissing edo tensei

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Well it seems some people here, go and say how Kabuto is shit that he is Kakashi level. But seriously, all the arguments I have seen is "Edo Tensie doesnt counts". Well its part of his power, so it does counts.

So please can anyone tell me how Kabuto is not at top 5?

Only rule:

Dont tell me edo tensei doesnt counts. Its like saying Sasori is weak without puppets.

I seriously tell to you people, that if you are capable of saying to me how he isnt at top 5 without trying to take away from him edo tensei, I will reconsider my posture.
 

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Let's put it this way, after death if Kabuto was to come back and Sasori were to come back as Edo Tensei.
Sasori would kick his ass because his puppets aren't a 1 time only deal like edo. and edo takes alot of prep
 

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Let's put it this way, after death if Kabuto was to come back and Sasori were to come back as Edo Tensei.
Sasori would kick his ass because his puppets aren't a 1 time only deal like edo. and edo takes alot of prep
The prep is only done 1 in a lifetime, the prep is just done once. Once it is done is no different than any jutsu, it come immediatly after clapping.

And again, read the OP. Tell me how he isnt at top 5 without dimissing edo tensei. I am waiting to see arguments that arent "edo tensei doesnt counts". By the way Sasori did came back, but didnt had his puppets, thus he didnt did as well as with Chiyo and Sakura.
 

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Kabuto using IWR is top 5. Probably top 1. But without it he might just make top twenty, and almost no way is he top 15 without it.

EDIT: Yes kid above me, Sasori did have his puppets. They were in a scroll like they always are. He doesn't just keep his puppets on his back like Kankuro, there are too many of them.
 
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The prep is only done 1 in a lifetime, the prep is just done once. Once it is done is no different than any jutsu, it come immediatly after clapping.

And again, read the OP. Tell me how he isnt at top 5 without dimissing edo tensei. I am waiting to see arguments that arent "edo tensei doesnt counts".
I never said ET doesn't count but to be a top 5 shinobi you have to be able to fight more then one battle.
Once he spams all his ET he is done for
 

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I never said ET doesn't count but to be a top 5 shinobi you have to be able to fight more then one battle.
Once he spams all his ET he is done for
He has fought countless battles, the truth is no one ever took him 1-1 at full power.

Kabuto at full power is easily top 2 or 1 (without taking in count RS). But yeah I agree that without ET this might change drastically, thus I said Kabuto AT FULL POWER. Without ET could be a different story.
 

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kishi pulled a quick one with kabuto. somehow getting oros cell into him he is able to surpass oro? thats alittle flimsy. but if he was able to enhance madara whats to say he hasnt enhanced himself with a bunch of other shinobis into him like he did with oro. danzo had eyes, he has their kekkei maybe
 
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he is not top 5 because:
1.sage of six path
2.toby and the six path
3.minato the yellow flash
4.naruto
5.sasuke

thats why :D
I wasnt taking in count RS, but fair enough. Tobi might be equal to him with GM, we cant be sure so I wouldnt put it as a sure above.

Naruto and Sasuke are you serious?! Naruto was getting raped by Edo Nagato alone, Kabuto at full power has 30 + edos including Madara and Nagato, Naruto and Sasuke would get raped.

Minato would also lose but he might be able to pull a lucky win, say if they fought 10 times Minato may win 4.
 

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Well it seems some people here, go and say how Kabuto is shit that he is Kakashi level. But seriously, all the arguments I have seen is "Edo Tensie doesnt counts". Well its part of his power, so it does counts.

So please can anyone tell me how Kabuto is not at top 5?

Only rule:

Dont tell me edo tensei doesnt counts. Its like saying Sasori is weak without puppets.

I seriously tell to you people, that if you are capable of saying to me how he isnt at top 5 without trying to take away from him edo tensei, I will reconsider my posture.
ya but the zetsus aren't part of him so he couldn't do edo without them which means he fails. You would have to put Zetsu and Kabuto vs. (Insert name) so he himself is not top 5.:flaw:
 

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Yes, this is Kabuto at full power. You know the version taken for VS threads which usually take the character at the height of hiis power (Prime Nagato, Healthy Itachi, Sasori with his 100 puppets), so in short yes, he has all of his edos in this debate.
that being said itachi could just break it with a genjutsu or whatever he did and then poop on all of kabuto's edo's with sasanoo sealing item haha so by saying this ur saying kabuto kills himself by using edo so no he is not in the top 5 or even top 50 for that matter
 
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ya but the zetsus aren't part of him so he couldn't do edo without them which means he fails. You would have to put Zetsu and Kabuto vs. (Insert name) so he himself is not top 5.:flaw:
Zetsus have NOTHING to do with his power, he had all his edo tenseis prior to joining Tobi he said "And I have more pawns", he had Madara and all Akatsuki without the need of any Zetsu, who told you he needed Zetsu?

Again edo tensei requires 1 in a lifetime preparation, once this is done it is no different than a normal jutsu you can use anywhere and anytime.
 
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