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Well do what Shadow said.
Let go of your pride. That's the only way... Let them have their glory.
Just walk off. Don't fight him. You fight him, he's already won.

You're just going to have to let your pride go bro
 

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Non Violent ideas?
Well do what Shadow said.
Let go of your pride. That's the only way... Let them have their glory.
Just walk off. Don't fight him. You fight him, he's already won.

You're just going to have to let your pride go bro

Normally I would agree with that but then the problem is...I might get ostracized from the group for being a ***** then, its about more then pride, Its about me trying to keep the good times rolling and not making enemies out of allies. Wouldn't you think I was a ***** if I was your friend and I walked away from a fight with someone like that? or not?
 

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Non Violent ideas?
Well do what Shadow said.
Let go of your pride. That's the only way... Let them have their glory.
Just walk off. Don't fight him. You fight him, he's already won.

You're just going to have to let your pride go bro
Thats BS! So what if he does let it go, but the other guy continues acting like a ****, keeping walking away... Walking away can only last so long, eventually the person will snap and will not be able to take it anymore. Walking away will not solve ****, the other guy will see it and continue to do that same **** cuz he knows you wont do anything, but if you stand up he might stop all at once, its not about pride here, its about your own ******* self respect and standing up for yourself!
 

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Normally I would agree with that but then the problem is...I might get ostracized from the group for being a ***** then, its about more then pride, Its about me trying to keep the good times rolling and not making enemies out of allies. Wouldn't you think I was a ***** if I was your friend and I walked away from a fight with someone like that? or not?
Thats BS! So what if he does let it go, but the other guy continues acting like a ****, keeping walking away... Walking away can only last so long, eventually the person will snap and will not be able to take it anymore. Walking away will not solve ****, the other guy will see it and continue to do that same **** cuz he knows you wont do anything, but if you stand up he might stop all at once, its not about pride here, its about your own ******* self respect and standing up for yourself!
Well how are you going to do it with non violence?
You said he wants you to retaliate with violence, and if you do he's already won. Yes words go so deep before it hits what needs to be hit to start your initial reaction. You got to get him alone and see if he'll do it without anybody around. Hell call him out and ask him str8.

Like I said before, don't trust your brain or heart on this. Whatever the situation gives you, act on instinct.

PS: If you were my friend and you backed out of a fight because of what you believe, I'd have complete respect for you especially if it was against a douche like that. Patience is what I respect.

But if he calls you out for a fair fight and you back out... that's another story.
 

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Well how are you going to do it with non violence?
You said he wants you to retaliate with violence, and if you do he's already won. Yes words go so deep before it hits what needs to be hit to start your initial reaction. You got to get him alone and see if he'll do it without anybody around. Hell call him out and ask him str8.

Like I said before, don't trust your brain or heart on this. Whatever the situation gives you, act on instinct.

PS: If you were my friend and you backed out of a fight because of what you believe, I'd have complete respect for you especially if it was against a douche like that. Patience is what I respect.

But if he calls you out for a fair fight and you back out... that's another story.
Well you made it seem like walking away was the only non-violent option. Talk to him, get up in his face and make your presence felt, tell him to **** off for the better of it, thats not violent is it? xd But if he takes that overboard and pushes on to a fight, then you fight him.

*Im assuming you can take him right? It would be a pointless fight if you cant and get your @$$ handed to you from the fight lol, that would be embarrassing, but none the less, you stood up for yourself.
 

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Well how are you going to do it with non violence?
You said he wants you to retaliate with violence, and if you do he's already won. Yes words go so deep before it hits what needs to be hit to start your initial reaction. You got to get him alone and see if he'll do it without anybody around. Hell call him out and ask him str8.

Like I said before, don't trust your brain or heart on this. Whatever the situation gives you, act on instinct.

PS: If you were my friend and you backed out of a fight because of what you believe, I'd have complete respect for you especially if it was against a douche like that. Patience is what I respect.

But if he calls you out for a fair fight and you back out... that's another story.

"But if he calls you out for a fair fight and you back out... that's another story."


thats not gonna happen...hes a coward. Yeah I get you...I suppose violence is the only way then because I never back down.
 

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"But if he calls you out for a fair fight and you back out... that's another story."


thats not gonna happen...hes a coward. Yeah I get you...I suppose violence is the only way then because I never back down.
NO Way am I endorsing you to use violence.
Its just that that guy seems like he doesn't get it.

If he's a coward, call him out.
I guess you should try to talk with him alone... see if that works!
 

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Well you made it seem like walking away was the only non-violent option. Talk to him, get up in his face and make your presence felt, tell him to **** off for the better of it, thats not violent is it? xd But if he takes that overboard and pushes on to a fight, then you fight him.

*Im assuming you can take him right? It would be a pointless fight if you cant and get your @$$ handed to you from the fight lol, that would be embarrassing, but none the less, you stood up for yourself.
Im not arrogant but the guys an insignificant prick, because I know guys who could probably kick my ass and would be a threat to me but he is a different story, I could take him but everytime I run the scenario through my mind this is the images I get:

(he throws some food at me, most likely some kind of liquid so then I get up walk around the table and just started punching him in the face without saying a word. Eventually I take him to the ground after bloodieng his face up...) but now I look like the bad guy infront of everyone because here I am pounding the shit out of someone! because all of his friends will be, as I said many times, obligated to get up and attack me...but I really really wouldn't want to hurt them, one other guy I would but the others I would be too afraid I would take it too far and draw blood and that would be really bad, I would feel really guilty because I like these guys
 

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Im not arrogant but the guys an insignificant prick, because I know guys who could probably kick my ass and would be a threat to me but he is a different story, I could take him but everytime I run the scenario through my mind this is the images I get:

(he throws some food at me, most likely some kind of liquid so then I get up walk around the table and just started punching him in the face without saying a word. Eventually I take him to the ground after bloodieng his face up...) but now I look like the bad guy infront of everyone because here I am pounding the shit out of someone! because all of his friends will be, as I said many times, obligated to get up and attack me...but I really really wouldn't want to hurt them, one other guy I would but the others I would be too afraid I would take it too far and draw blood and that would be really bad, I would feel really guilty because I like these guys
Your right, that could definitely happen, what also can happen and what i witnessed personally is that when the fight happens, no one does ****, everyone stands with their mouths open and afraid to do anything because they did not expect it to happen, a lot of scenarios can happen, be prepared for all of them is my advice.
 

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Bro, also since its like your new school be cautious.
They might jump you!
IK!! but Ive actually got some really badass friends...like I said Im a part of like every click so I have some really sick guys to back me up. In the end I would be the one causing the most damage I just dont necessarily want that to happen you know.

Your right, that could definitely happen, what also can happen and what i witnessed personally is that when the fight happens, no one does ****, everyone stands with their mouths open and afraid to do anything because they did not expect it to happen, a lot of scenarios can happen, be prepared for all of them is my advice.
Yeah I hope thats what happens...I hope they dont do shit because my anger is only directed toward him. Btw both of you should send me friend requests, your both cool. I've decided to just start swinging if he throws food at me tomorrow...and he better hope to God his friends don't gang up on me because I have a lot of friends that have the same lunch as us and they will swarm and the shit will hit the fan.
 
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I would like to walk away but I'm afraid my honor will not allow that. Call it immature pride if you must but I sometimes I have a harder time living with what "I" think of myself then what others think of me if you know what I mean. So I can't walk away plain and simple.
Hmmm ... After thinking about this I can understand to a degree. IF you can't simply walk away feeling that it would hurt your principles then you only have one option.

Stand up to him. But don't fight him. It's going to be hard, but in the end you'll learn so much about yourself and how to handle destructive people like him that it will be WELL worth it. A zen story comes to mind ...

... in feudal Japan there was a specific battle between Shogun's were the winning army sacked the neighboring shogun’s village. Running in to the mountains and woods many of the villagers and Zen monks were already gone. So when the general of the conquering army entered the city and heard that in the Zen monastery there was a lone monk he became furious! Swearing he galloped on his horse through the gates only to find the master meditating ... alone.

The general raised his sword and dismounted - the close to 90 lbs of armor clamoring with anger on his body. The master did not respond. The general sputtered with rage in his voice, “Don’t you realize who I am?!?!" The General took a few more steps forward towards the Master "I AM the man who could cut off your head without blinking an eye?” His voice low, threatening and filled to the brim with vim.

The Zen master responded turning his gaze to the General, “Don’t you realize I’m the man who could have my head cut off without blinking an eye?”

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Understand that this kid is threatened by you, then, and only then, you will have already won ANY fight he may through at you. At that point all you have to do is stand your ground. Since this takes a lot of resolve to do, I would suggest you practice facing him in your mind and remembering to be unmovable without succumbing to his inadequacies.

I hope that helps -
 
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