Thoughts and Questions on chapter 421 [I'm back!]

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Hey guys, sorry, I'm late yet again, but I've been SWAMPED in school, I have a fucking project due like every other day.
@_@'
Anywho, Yea, this week was a pretty straight forward chapter not much that we NB'ers didn't already know [Chakra receivers and whatnot]
There are a couple of things I want to address, though.
One, that one picture o page ten, with Naruto is interesting.
Now that's it's daytime, we can clearly see the mountains and shit in the background.
It seems that the mountains [Or trees, or whatever the **** they are] are cut IN HALF.
This shows that, one, Naruto is in fact working on the RasenShuriken because wind does in fact cut, as shown by Kakashi with the elemental paper.
The second thing is, Naruto is using a ranged jutsu, as he is sitting back as the mountains are all cut in half, further supporting the idea that it's RasenShuriken that he is working on, not ''That jutsu'' or whatever.
Another thing that pissed me off was the fact that they DID NOT show Kakashi's sharingan!
But, from the way he was talking, I'm led to believe that he has not activated his MS, but I'm not gonna admit defeat until I see a definitive picture of his sharingan.
While were on the topic of Kakashi V.S Pein, Kakashi seems to be having trouble with God realm.
I should have expected the fact that God realm would have some crazy powers, as we haven't really seen him in battle yet, but I was still caught off guard when he was simply deflecting jutsu's with what seemed to be bursts of chakra.
Kakashi's gonna have to pull some shit if he wants to stay in this fight, Pein has him on lock.
[EDIT] Ohh, I just noticed that other body joined the fight!
Damnnnn, Kakashi, I'm sorry to say this, but he might meet his maker during this fight...
:(
Nothing else really happened in this chapter, besides the whole Danzo thing, but I called that like a week ago so...Oh yea, and Shizune's probably gonna die because ANBU is protecting her, and we all know who runs ANBU.
Yep, you guessed it, Danzo.
So yea, any thoughts, guys?
 

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After looking at the "mountains or trees" Naruto cut down very carefully I discovered that they are bamboo shoots. I am 100% sure because I have bamboo in my backyard.

Also, an interesting thing I noticed is that the first time Naruto was training when the old frog was sleeping
it is not actually smoke coming from mountains or trees but from a cut down bamboo shoot.

Look carefully.
 

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kakashi isn't going to die, and theres no point in shizune dying. it would just anger tsunade, she's already angry with jiraiya's death. why kill shizune?
Pein is a cold mother fucker.
It would make total sense for Kakashi and/or Shizune to die.
Pein has no remorse, no feelings, and no care for what makes sense in the plot.
If you oppose him, you die, plain and simple.
I mean, I don't know if Kakashi will die, he may escape with MS, but I know Shizune WILL die.
Just as she's relaying the information about the chakra receivers, she'll get stabbed in the back by Pein, and with her last breath she'll tell them the information.
But who knows, Kishi is unpredictable, For all we know there may be no casualties at all, you never know.
 

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Pein is a cold mother fucker.
It would make total sense for Kakashi and/or Shizune to die.
Pein has no remorse, no feelings, and no care for what makes sense in the plot.
If you oppose him, you die, plain and simple.
I mean, I don't know if Kakashi will die, he may escape with MS, but I know Shizune WILL die.
Just as she's relaying the information about the chakra receivers, she'll get stabbed in the back by Pein, and with her last breath she'll tell them the information.
But who knows, Kishi is unpredictable, For all we know there may be no casualties at all, you never know.
well you do have a good point/theory about shizune, and i know pein is just a badass that doesn't care who dies, but kakashi doesn't NEED to die yet. or at all for that matter. jiraiya is already fueling naruto enough, plus sasuke is driving naruto as well. he doesn't need anyone else to piss him off. if naruto can't get his shit together from sasuke and jiraiya fueling him, he will never surpass the 4th. but we all know its gunna happen.

just have to wait and see i guess.
 

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Ahh, do you think maybe ANBU Root will intercept Tsunade's ANBU in attempts to assassinate Shizune?
Also, how did Danzo get in the Hokage office without anyone noticing?
Any ideas?
Danzou was probably just there.. watching. He is an elder too, right? If not, he IS a ninja lol.... >.>

As for the Danzou's men killing Shizune, it's very possible. He could kill her after receiving critical info on Pein and use it to either swindle Tsunade out of leadership (not likely) or simply wait for Pein to kill Tsunade and then attack Pein, failing to kill him but forcing his retreat. Of course someone will be there to witness all of this, and tell Naruto or Kakashi.
 

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Pein is a cold mother fucker.
It would make total sense for Kakashi and/or Shizune to die.
Pein has no remorse, no feelings, and no care for what makes sense in the plot.
If you oppose him, you die, plain and simple.
I mean, I don't know if Kakashi will die, he may escape with MS, but I know Shizune WILL die.
Just as she's relaying the information about the chakra receivers, she'll get stabbed in the back by Pein, and with her last breath she'll tell them the information.
But who knows, Kishi is unpredictable, For all we know there may be no casualties at all, you never know.
hehe ...if u saw the other mangas/animes...u must know that shizune is strong too....do u think that she was with tsunade all this time without learning anything?....when tsunade trained sakura she said:"I haven't seen such a talent since shizune"...so she must be a very good mediacal ninja and she can heal herself....and i think that maybe shes got some of tsunades distructive power ...about kakashi...the next chapter is called "kakashi's hope ",no?i think he will do some crazy attack and think he has destroyed pain and then pain strikes back like he did with jiraiya when he said"don't u told me not to underestimate your oponent sensei"...altough i think kakashi will not die....you can see in the last page, i think ,its written the question;"can naruto make it back?"so I'm sure he will come and save kakashi....cause he couldn't do anything about jiraiya or asuma..or the 3rd...and it would to paintfull for him to have another close freind that dies
 

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hehe ...if u saw the other mangas/animes...u must know that shizune is strong too....do u think that she was with tsunade all this time without learning anything?....when tsunade trained sakura she said:"I haven't seen such a talent since shizune"...so she must be a very good mediacal ninja and she can heal herself....and i think that maybe shes got some of tsunades distructive power ...about kakashi...the next chapter is called "kakashi's hope ",no?i think he will do some crazy attack and think he has destroyed pain and then pain strikes back like he did with jiraiya when he said"don't u told me not to underestimate your oponent sensei"...altough i think kakashi will not die....you can see in the last page, i think ,its written the question;"can naruto make it back?"so I'm sure he will come and save kakashi....cause he couldn't do anything about jiraiya or asuma..or the 3rd...and it would to paintfull for him to have another close freind that dies
Yea, Shizune is highly underestimated, but still, if you have 5 or 6 guys like Yamato or Sai coming at you, I don't care how strong she is, she will die.
 

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Yea, Shizune is highly underestimated, but still, if you have 5 or 6 guys like Yamato or Sai coming at you, I don't care how strong she is, she will die.
hmmmmmmmmmmm, that can be VERY argueable. remember deidara had naruto, kakashi's MS, gai, neji, lee, tenten, sakura and chiyo after him. he still almost killed them all plus he got away. so even if you have an army coming straight for you, theres always a way to either counter or escape.

example: even though he was the strongest ninja ever, the 4th took on 50 chuunin/jounin in 1 second.(a.k.a. an army)
 

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hmmmmmmmmmmm, that can be VERY argueable. remember deidara had naruto, kakashi's MS, gai, neji, lee, tenten, sakura and chiyo after him. he still almost killed them all plus he got away. so even if you have an army coming straight for you, theres always a way to either counter or escape.

example: even though he was the strongest ninja ever, the 4th took on 50 chuunin/jounin in 1 second.(a.k.a. an army)
True, true.
But, you have to remember, Shizune is a medical-nin, so weather or not she has some big spectacular jutsu that can take that many people is arguable.
We'll see, hopefully the ANBU that's protecting Shizune aren't pushovers either.
Wait, if Danzo puts out an order for Root to attack Shizune, does that mean Yamato and Sai have to follow?
 
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