Homosexuality (since it has been a popular topic on NB as of late)

[~Deidara~]

Oh God. The fact that this is even an issue is moronic.

In a decade (at most), homosexuality is going to be about as big a deal as a interracial relationships.

Right..... this is like the segregation times...

bTW, in the 90's, about only 30% of Americans were tolerant of gays, and 10% supported gay marriage... a more recent poll shows 75% are tolerant (not to be mean here, but the other 25% came mostly from the South where Christianity is the strongest), and 54% supported marriage.... most AMericans are improving why not you? (not you kitten )

 

[Fizama]

Too much "haha". Here I fixed it for you.

Doesn't reflect how long I laughed xd
You've made a few statements, and I asked for some backing.
I just want to know how you know its a choice.

 

[Sominus]

And why does society hate gays? it all stems back to religion...



Many many more quotes from the bible that label gays as monsters, who will burn in eternal flames etc... Now of course thats the message to pass on to our children, not loving everyone equally?

I never said anything different did I? Really, taking religion in this makes this topic way to incalculable and we (I) are (am) talking about the current situation. As I said it's a fault of the society and society can't push off this fact onto religion. Nowadays people got a better understanding of the world than they did back then. They can't play the role of the ignorant religious-fanatics anymore.

 

[Faceless]

And why does society hate gays? it all stems back to religion...






Many many more quotes from the bible that label gays as monsters, who will burn in eternal flames etc... Now of course thats the message to pass on to our children, not loving everyone equally?

The whole God is love and therefore he must love everyone is the most misunderstood concept in the Bible. You say God is love and therefore cannot condemn people for their living. Yet you forget that God in the Bible is also a righteous judge and even the smallest sin disgusts him. Now I'm not saying that homosexuality is a sin, feel free to believe whatever you want. I'm just saying that the whole God loves everyone is being misinterpreted all the time.

 

[Fizama]

The whole God is love and therefore he must love everyone is the most misunderstood concept in the Bible. You say God is love and therefore cannot condemn people for their living. Yet you forget that God in the Bible is also a righteous judge and even the smallest sin disgusts him. Now I'm not saying that homosexuality is a sin, feel free to believe whatever you want. I'm just saying that the whole God loves everyone is being misinterpreted all the time.

The bible is up for whatever interpretation a person wants.
That's the beauty of belief. You can believe what you want.

 

[Sominus]

You might love chicks but apparently you didn't love you're 5th grade spelling class lol

No offence but you must be very bad at interpreting things because I made it very clear where I stood on the subject, but thats ok as long as its clear now.

Excuse me for english not being my mother tongue. If you want to we can continue the debat in german and I'll be amused about your spelling.

 

[Faceless]

Doesn't reflect how long I laughed xd
You've made a few statements, and I asked for some backing.
I just want to know how you know its a choice.

Experience. I live in the Philippines where homosexuality is very popular. And I ask them whether or not they chose to be gay. Almost all of them said yes. My statement is biased because its based on my own experience.

 

[Hyperion]

Q: If they don't choose to be a homo, who does?

 

[~Deidara~]

Excuse me for english not being my mother tounge. If you want to we can continue the debat in german and I'll be amused about your spelling.

GERMAN?

Wow. This is another issue.... How come every country in the world can learn English so well (like you, nice job! ), but America can't even learn its own language (English) well... That tells you how our education is doing U_U

 

[Fizama]

Experience. I live in the Philippines where homosexuality is very popular. And I ask them whether or not they chose to be gay. Almost all of them said yes. My statement is biased because its based on my own experience.

Now this is what I've wanted from you! Nice dude.



But... almost all?

 

[Faceless]

The bible is up for whatever interpretation a person wants.
That's the beauty of belief. You can believe what you want.

Actually no its not. The Bible is a historical document, like the Quran. You're not "free to believe in whatever you want", there are things that you do not understand simply because you choose not to understand it. Anyways I don't want to go it with you on the Bible, because well its a touchy subject. I was simply implying that the Bible is being misunderstood.

 

[Fizama]

Q: If they don't choose to be a homo, who does?

"Who"?

 

[IntrovertedKittenNinja]

Maybe the issue is the basis of it all:
Genetic/environment? vs. Choice

Yeah, I can see that. Still, that wouldn't be an issue if homosexuality itself wasn't an issue.

Oh well, once gay marriage and such becomes commonplace, I have my bunker to retreat to when the world ends when public schools start forcing homosexuality on kids for no apparent reason and society breaks down.

Lmao here's what I don't get. Why do so many straight guys get creeped out by homosexual males? Because let's face it, the overwhelming majority have NO problem if, let's say I happened to be lesbian. I mean, aren't homosexual guys good for straight guys? Less competition for women. And let's face it, most homosexuals take better care of themselves than straight guys. Look at Neil Patrick Harris. Straight men everywhere should thank their lucky stars he isn't straight. Hahaha!

 

[Fizama]

Actually no its not. The Bible is a historical document, like the Quran. You're not "free to believe in whatever you want", there are things that you do not understand simply because you choose not to understand it. Anyways I don't want to go it with you on the Bible, because well its a touchy subject. I was simply implying that the Bible is being misunderstood.

Alright, we can end it. PM your answer to this.
Who is to decide what is symbolism in the bible. Who is to decide what is literal or not.

 

[Faceless]

Now this is what I've wanted from you! Nice dude.



But... almost all?

Almost all. The small minority that I have asked is either they said that God created them like that or they didn't have a choice, it's either be gay or deny their individuality.

 

[~Deidara~]

Q: If they don't choose to be a homo, who does?

Scientific answerNA... Let's say the normal gene for being straight is AATGGC
The DNA goes into the embryo, and says, "Ok, I'll put AATG-" his co-worker (mutagen xd) bumps into him, and so he finishes with AATGCC instead of AATGGC.... see? that was a kids version of explaining that being gay is a mutation (i hope you're not ignorant enough to think mutations are like x-men mutations xd)


Religious answer: God

 

[Hyperion]

Scientific answerNA... Let's say the normal gene for being straight is AATGGC
The DNA goes into the embryo, and says, "Ok, I'll put AATG-" his co-worker (mutagen xd) bumps into him, and so he finishes with AATGCC instead of AATGGC.... see? that was a kids version of explaining that being gay is a mutation (i hope you're not ignorant enough to think mutations are like x-men mutations xd)


Religious answer: God

Religious answer: Its their Choice.

Science answer: Excuse!

 

[Fizama]

Almost all. The small minority that I have asked is either they said that God created them like that or they didn't have a choice, it's either be gay or deny their individuality.

I'd like you to respect their responses equally, though.

If you trust those who say the chose,
trust those who say they didn't.

 

[~Deidara~]

Religious answer: Its their Choice.

Science answer: Excuse!

Scientific Answer: FACT

Religious Response: *as scientist tries to explain: LALALALALALALALALALALALALALALALA

 

[Fizama]

Religious answer: Its their Choice.

Science answer: Excuse!

Maybe we don't have a definite scientific answer yet.



Do I lose now?