Narut would be the most powerful ninja if he had sealing abilities. He needs a master

[Michael92]

LOL what? Naruto created a new seal. If he didn't then how the heck did that new seal appear inside naruto to trap the kyuubi? The manga clearly shows this, the chapter title is even "A New Seal." Naruto performed the entire seal, there is no proof that he only performed part of itt.

And yes besides this naruto hasn't shown any sealing jutsu of his own, but considering he can perform a sealing jutsu at the level beyond minato, it is highly likely that he can perform minatos and jiraiya's sealing jutsus as well.

Someone seems to share my view on this.
The only way I can see it otherwise is for Kushina to give assistant somehow without we being shownU_U

 

[lanakau888]

So just because Naruto can use a seal stronger than Minato's means he can use Minato and Jiraiya's seals as well? That is some serious screwed up logic. He can't just pull new jutsu out of his ass. He has to learn them.

Didn't say it was conclusive, hence the words "highly likely." And jiraiya could have taught him these jutsu's during the 2 year gaps.

Of course I'm not saying that if you put naruto in a versus thread, he can use minato's and jiraiyas jutsus. Naruto only gets the jutsus and abilities that he has shown to be capable of doing in the manga.

What I am saying is that since he has the ability to perform a sealing jutsu more powerful than minato's best, there is a good chance that he can use Minato's and jiraiya's lower level seals as well.

 

[Hyperion]

LOL what? Naruto created a new seal. If he didn't then how the heck did that new seal appear inside naruto to trap the kyuubi? The manga clearly shows this, the chapter title is even "A New Seal." Naruto performed the entire seal, there is no proof that he only performed part of itt.

And yes besides this naruto hasn't shown any sealing jutsu of his own, but considering he can perform a sealing jutsu at the level beyond minato, it is highly likely that he can perform minatos and jiraiya's sealing jutsus as well.

Did Naruto Create the seal? Him separating the Kyuubi's Chakra from the Body, resealing the Kyuubi after separating the chakra? Did he really create his own seal? Or was it there for him to use from the beginning?
I think he was given the tools to reseal the kyuubi while the new seal is the old one just with the Kyuubi Chakra separated from the body.

But anyway you do agree that he doesn't have his own Sealing Arsenal. If he was beyond the level of Minato in sealing, he would've been able to do his seal to overtake Minato's. But he can't cause he doesn't know how to and is nowhere near Minato's level of intelligence.

strong genjutsu indenticaly with eyes!! even pa and ma toad have genjutsu! genjutsu in your perception must be from sharingan user like itachi, or even you will say KA shihsui, naruto not have to encounter the ka or tsukoyomi from a dead man! even he can't encounter genjutsu he is still and always strong enough to kick your ass!!

Yes you are correct! Everything you say is important.

 

[-Vegeta-]

Didn't say it was conclusive, hence the words "highly likely." And jiraiya could have taught him these jutsu's during the 2 year gaps.

Of course I'm not saying that if you put naruto in a versus thread, he can use minato's and jiraiyas jutsus. Naruto only gets the jutsus and abilities that he has shown to be capable of doing in the manga.

What I am saying is that since he has the ability to perform a sealing jutsu more powerful than minato's best, there is a good chance that he can use Minato's and jiraiya's lower level seals as well.

Again he can't just pull new jutsu out of his ass. He can't just all of the sudden use Minato's sealing jutsu out of nowhere just because he used a powerful seal. He has to learn them. Also that seal isn't stronger than Minato's reaper death seal considering that jutsu has the power to take someones life.

 

[lanakau888]

Did Naruto Create the seal? Him separating the Kyuubi's Chakra from the Body, resealing the Kyuubi after separating the chakra? Did he really create his own seal? Or was it there for him to use from the beginning?
I think he was given the tools to reseal the kyuubi while the new seal is the old one just with the Kyuubi Chakra separated from the body.

The chapter was titled "A New Seal." We see the kyuubi sealed in a different seal from the one minato placed on naruto. The whole look and abilities of the new seal is completely different from the old one. Who could have created this new seal other than naruto?

But anyway you do agree that he doesn't have his own Sealing Arsenal. If he was beyond the level of Minato in sealing, he would've been able to do his seal to overtake Minato's. But he can't cause he doesn't know how to and is nowhere near Minato's level of intelligence.

Yes I agree, until proven by the manga, naruto does not have minato's other sealing jutsu. Read above for more information.

 

[lanakau888]

Again he can't just pull new jutsu out of his ass. He can't just all of the sudden use Minato's space time barrier out of nowhere just because he used a powerful seal. He has to learn them. Also that seal isn't stronger than Minato's reaper death seal considering that jutsu has the power to take someones life.

I don't see how this contradicts what I posted above.

 

[The Eye]

genjutsu
Naruto knows how to break out of it, as he showed with itachi.

chakra Naruto has alot of it.

tech, he's lacking in that area...hes good in tiajutsu, decent in ninjutsu, and needs improvement in genjutsu.

 

[-Vegeta-]

I don't see how this contradicts what I posted above.

You're sitting here saying that just because Naruto used a powerful seal means he could possibly use Jiraiya and Minato's sealing jutsu. What kind of logic is that? It makes absolutely no sense.

 

[The Eye]

You're sitting here saying that just because Naruto used a powerful seal means he can use Jiraiya's and Minato's sealing jutsu. What kind of logic is that? It makes absolutely no sense.

Naruto would be crazy strong if he knew how to make all these uzamki seals!! if your saying it won't make a difference your crazy

 

[-Vegeta-]

Naruto would be crazy strong if he knew how to make all these uzamki seals!! if your saying it won't make a difference your crazy

I'm saying that Naruto can't pull new jutsu out of his ass. He can't just use Minato's sealing jutsu just because he used a powerful new seal, which is what lanakau is trying to say. I'm not saying Naruto wouldn't become extremely powerful with them.

 

[Michael92]

You're sitting here saying that just because Naruto used a powerful seal means he could possibly use Jiraiya and Minato's sealing jutsu. What kind of logic is that? It makes absolutely no sense.

And now you're agreeing that he "pulled a jutsu out of his ass" even though you were certain that it was Minato's some moments ago? Where is the logic in that. You're contradicting yourself now
Beside that, I agree with the rest. But then again, this discussion was all about Naruto using the seal or not.

 

[-Vegeta-]

And now you're agreeing that he "pulled a jutsu out of his ass" even though you were certain that it was Minato's some moments ago? Where is the logic in that. You're contradicting your self now
Beside that, I agree with the rest. But then again, this conversation was all about Naruto using the seal or not.

When did i ever say that seal Naruto used was Minato's? I think you have me confused with somebody else.

 

[Hyperion]

The chapter was titled "A New Seal." We see the kyuubi sealed in a different seal from the one minato placed on naruto. The whole look and abilities of the new seal is completely different from the old one. Who could have created this new seal other than naruto?


Yes I agree, until proven by the manga, naruto does not have minato's other sealing jutsu. Read above for more information.

So Naruto, someone with no prior knowledge of Fuinjutsu can pull a Seal out of nowhere that is strong to RESEAL the CHAKRAless Kyuubi?

OR

Minato put all this in place for it to happen considering he sealed the Kyuubi in Naruto in the first place.

Naruto Wikia has it like this(I know you people don't like but here):

When Naruto first obtained Nine-Tails Chakra Mode, his previous seal's outward appearance had changed into a shape of one of the Sage of the Six Paths' magatama beads, along with a swirl design that resembled Uzushiogakure's symbol.[1]

By using the seal's key, he can create several massive interlocking torii that can even immobilise and imprison the Nine-Tails with ease. Naruto then isolated the Nine-Tails' chakra in another part of him away from the beast itself in between four torii, so he could access it freely.[2] It was later revealed that the Nine-Tails isn't always bound by the torii and has freedom of movement behind its cage, but Naruto can enter the cage without breaking the seal and still manipulate the torii to immobilise the beast if he wants.[3] The seal's outward appearance changes slightly when Naruto forms a hand seal.[4]

[1] Naruto chapter 499, pages 12-13
[2] Naruto chapter 505, page 7
[3] Naruto chapter 538, pages 16-17
[4] Naruto chapter 541, page 12

 

[The Eye]

I'm saying that Naruto can't pull new jutsu out of his ass. He can't just use Minato's sealing jutsu just because he used a powerful new seal, which is what lanakau is trying to say. I'm not saying Naruto wouldn't become extremely powerful with them.

Ok just making sure, the only jutsu i seen naruto do was sealing the nine tails chakra away from his body. wait wasnt this his mother jutsu? i havnt read that chapter in weeks so yea

 

[TheLaw]

Again he can't just pull new jutsu out of his ass. He can't just all of the sudden use Minato's sealing jutsu out of nowhere just because he used a powerful seal. He has to learn them. Also that seal isn't stronger than Minato's reaper death seal considering that jutsu has the power to take someones life.

Yeah what they are talking about is that toad with key who went inside naruto, naruto can use that to open and close the seal. Minato has done it, not naruto, naruto just uses it.

 

[Michael92]

When did i ever say that seal Naruto used was Minato's? I think you have me confused with somebody else.

Opsxd My bad.

So Naruto, someone with no prior knowledge of Fuinjutsu can pull a Seal out of nowhere that is strong to RESEAL the CHAKRAless Kyuubi?

OR

Minato put all this in place for it to happen considering he sealed the Kyuubi in Naruto in the first place.

Naruto Wikia has it like this(I know you people don't like but here):

Could be, but there is no proof of it. And the quote you posted said nothing about it, quite the opposite actually. It said Naruto used the key to close the seal. Now sealing jutsu or not, he's still pulling it off. Though you might question this as I don't recall the key frog being given to Naruto yet and neither seeing Naruto use it? Fell free to freshen my memory though.

 

[Hyperion]

Could be, but there is no proof of it. And the qoute you posted said nothing about it, quite the opposite actually. It said Naruto used the key to close the seal. Now sealing jutsu or not, he's still pulling it off. Though you might question this as I don't recall the key frog being given to Naruto yet and neither seeing Naruto use it.

Yes he is pulling it off, but you won't see him do that to another Nin right? Naruto can't just use the Torii Seal on an opponent because he doesn't know how to create it.

 

[Michael92]

Yes he is pulling it off, but you won't see him do that to another Nin right? Naruto can't just use the Torii Seal on an opponent because he doesn't know how to create it.

Okay I'll meet you halfway and say draw But he will learn to use seals eventually, believe it. Which this thread was all about to begin with.

 

[Hyperion]

Okay I'll meet you halfway and say draw But he will learn to use seals eventually, believe it. Which this thread was all about to begin with.

:hugno homo)

Yes, eventually yes after he's got the fundamentals down...

 

[TheLaw]

Didnt anyone read what i said? =)

toad with key who went inside naruto, naruto can use that to open and close the seal. Minato has done it, not naruto, naruto just uses it.