Peins not that special, his secret is obvious

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has anyone else noticed that the dialogue point comes directly from one of peins ear piercings? and that theres 6 on his ear??

And that them piercings are all chakra receivers???

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This is what jiraiya realised when he said he could sense nagato in the bodies, and he only came to realisation of peins secret AFTER he was stabbed.

Jiraiya figured out that the weapons are chakra disturbers or somehow do something with chakra, and he could feel nagatos chakra, and presence.

Obviously the rinnegans eye is like a wave, as it looks like one, and he has found a material that responds to his particular wavelength, and as thus can pierce them into peoples heads, and take control of the bodies, very advanced puppets basically.

If you remove the piercings then you can probably "de activate" them.

Its just like a radiowave, get into the right wave and you find peins chakra wavelength and you can find out where he is, the chakra receivers are just aerials.

And, in theory, if kishi understands technology well, its always a two way system, pein must also get chakra waves back from the bodies too, from the rinnegan, that must be one of its powers.

The good thing about this is it might be possible to hurt pein via the other bodies piercings-maybe.

Also pein stated jiraiya wouldve won if he knew the secret, meaning finding nagatos real body might not be required, adding to the possibility pein can be hurt via the other bodies considering theyre all connected.

 

[Koo]

yup it sounds about right but were did the material come from? how did the original rinangan user be so powerful if that material say didnt exist at the time or so

 

[Xero]

I like this theory! Although the speech bubble could've been just because Pein's head was tilted.

 

[Mangenkyou Maoh]

wow... it makes sense!

 

[QwertyHero]

Yea, that sounds very simple to use, but step into the shoes of anyone in Naruto.
For them to figure all of that out, ESPECIALLY when shit's getting attacked by Pein himself, would be nearly impossible.
Like I said, the only person who can put all the peaces together is Kakashi, so we'll see what happens in the future manga's.

 

[Narutoftw]

Wouldnt sharingan see the chakra going into the recievers tho?? seeing as it can see chakra flow.

 

[QwertyHero]

Wouldnt sharingan see the chakra going into the recievers tho?? seeing as it can see chakra flow.

Hmm, maybe, I wouldn't see why not.

 

[twistedlink]

Wouldnt sharingan see the chakra going into the recievers tho?? seeing as it can see chakra flow.

Its a high frequency receiver, sharingan might only be able to see certain wavelengths of chakra, it appears many chakras have many different abilities, narutos can heal him, madaras is strong enough to make him live longer than others.

Maybe sharingan isnt so great afterall, maybe there are ways to counter the sharingan.


As to the material that conducts chakra, thats easy to explain, kakashi showed paper to naruto that conducts wind water electric rock and fire.

There must be other materials that can conduct other forms of chakra or simply any form of chakra.

either way, shizune was holding up the main ear piercing that goes through the bottom and the top and stated its a reciever, so its obvious theyre just advanced puppets, the real fight is going to be against nagato

 

[Narutoftw]

the real fight is going to be against nagato

Yeah probably.. I bet the real Nagato will be quite an opponent.

 

[twistedlink]

Do also remember that sharingan is a evolved byakagun, and a rinnegan is a perfect eye technique that byakagun and sharingan are meant to be originally born from.

It would make sense to have byakagun and sharingan be useless against rinnegan considering its the most evolved and best eye technique there is.

 

[Gentle Ninja]

it all makes sense

 

[Narutoftw]

Do also remember that sharingan is a evolved byakagun, and a rinnegan is a perfect eye technique that byakagun and sharingan are meant to be originally born from.

It would make sense to have byakagun and sharingan be useless against rinnegan considering its the most evolved and best eye technique there is.

i know the Rinnegan is more powerful than Sharingan.. BUT Why is Madara calling the shots? D:

 

[Kazamori]

i know the Rinnegan is more powerful than Sharingan.. BUT Why is Madara calling the shots? D:

Well Madara is older/smarter xDDD

 

[6th hokage]

in page 15 and 16 of manga 420, its been clearly stated those black materials are chakra receivers. and they respond to high frequency chakra. thats why i said in one of my earlier post its possible to jam the chakra signal so that those bodies dont receive those modulated chakra signal.

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pain has those receivers(100s of them) all over his body. not just ear piercing. so its not possible to hold pain static and remove hundreds of those receivers from his body. pian wont allow that happily. only way to do this is to disrupt the atmosphere(by jamming the signal) around his body so that his body is cut off from receiving chakra.

however at this point i dont believe those body also transmit chakra or feedback to original one(source). those are just receivers, not transmitters. and the comment "if jman knew the secret we wud have never won" - can also mean jman cud have defeated all those 6 bodies. thats why pain said we, not I. and defeated not killed. those bodies cant be killed. nagato wud have got 6 new bodies later. however, beating nagato wud be a different ball game.

the code jman left behind, will lead us to his (specific) identity and details, i believe. i discussed it in this thread.

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the body jman left behind, will show how nagato communicate with 6 paths (what we r discussing) and how to defeat those 6 paths, i think.
and the rain ninja ino's dad investigating might lead us to nagato's location, my speculation.

PS. nagato is the obvious suspect, who is behind these 6 paths. but we donno for sure.

 

[Kyuubi XZ]

Because God realm has 6 peircings on each of his ears...........that only leads to one thing......To defeat him one must ..............
CUT THEM OFF!!!!

JK JK

 

[Kazamori]

Dont think thats so easy -.-

Maybe its just earrings for *pretty looking* xDDD Style you know =D

 

[twistedlink]

in page 15 and 16 of manga 420, its been clearly stated those black materials are chakra receivers. and they respond to high frequency chakra. thats why i said in one of my earlier post its possible to jam the chakra signal so that those bodies dont receive those modulated chakra signal.

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pain has those receivers(100s of them) all over his body. not just ear piercing. so its not possible to hold pain static and remove hundreds of those receivers from his body. pian wont allow that happily. only way to do this is to disrupt the atmosphere(by jamming the signal) around his body so that his body is cut off from receiving chakra.

however at this point i dont believe those body also transmit chakra or feedback to original one(source). those are just receivers, not transmitters. and the comment "if jman knew the secret we wud have never won" - can also mean jman cud have defeated all those 6 bodies. thats why pain said we, not I. and defeated not killed. those bodies cant be killed. nagato wud have got 6 new bodies later. however, beating nagato wud be a different ball game.

the code jman left behind, will lead us to his (specific) identity and details, i believe. i discussed it in this thread.

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the body jman left behind, will show how nagato communicate with 6 paths (what we r discussing) and how to defeat those 6 paths, i think.
and the rain ninja ino's dad investigating might lead us to nagato's location, my speculation.

PS. nagato is the obvious suspect, who is behind these 6 paths. but we donno for sure.

Didnt know youd beaten me to it! LOL but nice analysing.

You reckon theres no feedback then? If thats true how can pein know whether everythings gone smoothly??

Like the 6 bodies seeing whats going on, id have thought his rinnegan sends out a wave (hence the eyes looks, and that the bodies ALWAYS have rinnegan activated) he must transfer info to them to fight, and get back what happens like CCTV and can control 6 at a time...

Either way, to control 6 bodies all in different spaces, hes one helluva multi tasker, probably smarter than itachi!

 

[6th hokage]

Didnt know youd beaten me to it! LOL but nice analysing.

You reckon theres no feedback then? If thats true how can pein know whether everythings gone smoothly??

Like the 6 bodies seeing whats going on, id have thought his rinnegan sends out a wave (hence the eyes looks, and that the bodies ALWAYS have rinnegan activated) he must transfer info to them to fight, and get back what happens like CCTV and can control 6 at a time...

Either way, to control 6 bodies all in different spaces, hes one helluva multi tasker, probably smarter than itachi!

u have a point. but i think if the jutsu is released nagato will know. much like kage bunshin or itachi-kisame's shape shifting technique. they immediately knew what happened. btw. i like ur analogy of wave with the rinnegan eye. like madara's swirl like mask with his teleportation.

 

[Zero]

Hmmm it does have good points but well he there chakra recievers are really coming from Nagato, Than he also must be using there own chakra because I highly doubt that Nagato has enough chakra to fuel the six bodies and there jutsus. It would also prove how they can "see" through each others eyes, but here's my question:
If they are puppets than were did he get the bodies from?
For instance, the Pein that Jiraiya "Killed" was a man Jiraiya fought while he was younger in fact they all were, I understand how Yuhiko's body is there but how did the others get there? I also read how if the recievers are dislodged how they will "De-Activate" yet when that man was killed the reciever's were still working outside of his body, besides how can a puppet die(they must have been completely destroyed, to stop working)?

 

[SAKumono26]

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has anyone else noticed that the dialogue point comes directly from one of peins ear piercings? and that theres 6 on his ear??

And that them piercings are all chakra receivers???

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This is what jiraiya realised when he said he could sense nagato in the bodies, and he only came to realisation of peins secret AFTER he was stabbed.

Jiraiya figured out that the weapons are chakra disturbers or somehow do something with chakra, and he could feel nagatos chakra, and presence.

Obviously the rinnegans eye is like a wave, as it looks like one, and he has found a material that responds to his particular wavelength, and as thus can pierce them into peoples heads, and take control of the bodies, very advanced puppets basically.

If you remove the piercings then you can probably "de activate" them.

Its just like a radiowave, get into the right wave and you find peins chakra wavelength and you can find out where he is, the chakra receivers are just aerials.

And, in theory, if kishi understands technology well, its always a two way system, pein must also get chakra waves back from the bodies too, from the rinnegan, that must be one of its powers.

The good thing about this is it might be possible to hurt pein via the other bodies piercings-maybe.

Also pein stated jiraiya wouldve won if he knew the secret, meaning finding nagatos real body might not be required, adding to the possibility pein can be hurt via the other bodies considering theyre all connected.

awesome