[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 559 Discussion and 560 Predictions
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KnowledgeGod
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I like your Theory!!!!I reaallly reeaallly like this theory! Many thumbs up for this Typhon :worshippy:
Only thing is that it don't actually have to be Obito's full body that Tobi is using. Especially because his face looks old. But his Sharingan, I'm almost sure too!
For the people who haven't read my theory yet, I'll repost it under this message. To show it to more people, and to keep the little credit to myselfI already see a few copies.
Thanks for the reactions so far btw! And again Typhon, I really enjoyed yours! I was lucky to read the original one, before is somehow disappeared..
And now my theory about Tobi:
1.Old Face, about same age as Danzou
2.Was in a team with Danzou during the Ninja War
--> explains why he wasn't surprised by any of Danzou's techniques
3.The team they where in was Tobirama's team..TOBIrama
--> Tobirama was the first Shinobi with space time Jutsu
--> Explains why Tobi could use S/T-jutsu without MS
4.The only two of Tobirama's former team not present at Demon Fox's attack --> D & T
--> seeYou must be registered for see linksand than look atYou must be registered for see linksto see that they are clearly missing
5.The only two characters besides Yamato with Hashirama's cells --> Danzou & Tobi
6.The only two characters with a massive collection of Sharingan --> D & T
7.Both contributed to the Uchiha Massacre
8.Danzou never acted surprised about Tobi either, as if he knew who he was
They probably where close friends before, with the Uchiha massacre as a part of a plan and vision they shared. But it seems along the way, Danzou had more interest in becoming Hokage and Tobi (Kagami!) in bringing the whole world under his control.
I think while they didn't agree, they decided to just split up without a fight, because they where comrads once.
That theory has a hole the size of the moon in it.
We have seen ZERO reasons why Kagami would hate Konaha.
So kishi created a villain that has no motive?
At least if it is Izuna there would be a reason he would hate them.
We have seen ZERO reasons why Kagami would hate Konaha.
So kishi created a villain that has no motive?
At least if it is Izuna there would be a reason he would hate them.
Just so you know, you did not actually defend your statement that tobi can not be madara'a mind inside a another body, be it Obitos body or which ever other theories are out there, all you did was show pics of kabuto explaining how the Impure Resurrection summoning jutsu, which does not say anything defending what you said. The impure summon requires 3 and only 3 things, 1st the soul of the person being revived MUST reside in the pure world, 2nd the vessel being used to house the soul must be alive( you cant rez a dead guy into another dead guy, lol counter production right there, and lastly, the summoner must provide enough of the person(s) being revived DNA, No where does kabuto or anyone familier with this justu state that the soul must whole, it must merely reside in the pure world. it has been shown a few times that a living thing can be spilt, (mind/soul), (body, mind/soul), (body, chakra), (body,body) so Tobi could very well be half of madara soul(mind) which ever inside the vessel he is currently occupying, kisi would not have him keep stating to ppl, even ppl who are going to die( meaning there is no reason to lie to them) that he is madara and be lying, also kisi isnt not going to make Itachi out to be one of the leafs greatest heroes and have him be fooled by tobi.
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KnowledgeGod
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I like the Theory!!! Kagami has a motive..A really good one..Uchiha Clan!!!!! His clan was Destroyed... I'm not saying it's true... It's a really good Theory... Stop hatin!! What's your theory so I can find a the black hole in it! Lol
READ the pages I linked noob....
Kabuto himself say many of the bodies he uncovered were decomposed so badly he couldnt tell who they were until AFTER they were summoned with IWR.
DNA is in EVERYTHING on a human.
A lock of hair would contain DNA, the bones would contain DNA, the rotten decomposed flesh would contain DNA. A weapon covered in dried blood would contain DNA....shall I go on?
Kabuto himself say many of the bodies he uncovered were decomposed so badly he couldnt tell who they were until AFTER they were summoned with IWR.
DNA is in EVERYTHING on a human.
A lock of hair would contain DNA, the bones would contain DNA, the rotten decomposed flesh would contain DNA. A weapon covered in dried blood would contain DNA....shall I go on?
Lordofd100x
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Re: Madara's identity and 6th coffin mystery Solved....
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Is speed greater then power?
took the words outta my mouth fenix, im not gonna rule out the possibility that the fourth will play a part in this war.
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Is speed greater then power?
Re: Madara's identity and 6th coffin mystery Solved....
yea the fourth is in the death god sealing justu. But i always wanted for naruto with his new power to summon the dude and be like... "hey you.... let them go.... or else" lol
amazing chapter madara is really ded but now theres the mystery of who is the masked man i think it actually could be madaras brother cus he talked about killing his bro for his eyes maybe madaras eyes was taken out for his bro and he was posing as madara since just a theory most likely untrue. awesome chapter anywaysxd
back in one of the chapters kabuto showed a coffin to "madara" and he was afraid of it that must of been the real madara at first i though it was the fourth hokage that would of been awesome naruto versus his dadxdxdxdxdxdxdxdxdxd
i know sometimes theres a variety of people that takes a lot of time to comprehend things.. well what im trying to say is that why did tobi address him as brother... if u read manga in japanese he called him kakashi-san why will tobi do that. you use that word as an honorary gesture... only ppl who know each other well use it, got it ...
if not, nobody can help you.
hi, to the readers...
4 me i think in this chapter, Tobi appears to be later than Madara... both of course are Uchiha, regardless of it as a grandson or madara's son (kishi did happen give trace to dat, not yet)...
but contrary to the explanation of the mask guy when he is talking to sasuke that he is Madara...after when Sasuke defeated itachi. my question:how this is?
why Tobi is pretending madara? or he juz in still to the curse hatred thing between senju and uchiha...wen he explain to naruto, kakashi and yamato.
Other thing...is that Tobi knows more than Orichimaru, or i may say, he know already the immortality jutsu juz b4 Orochimaru does...dats why he still lives...(dat 3 years thing...if we trace the time table...when Orochimaru failed to take Sasuke body.) Tobi is using a vessel like orochimaru... Battle of brains between Orochimaru and Tobi...
Since Tobi can Create a revolutionary Zetsu and dis only black white Zetsu...using the Shodai cells...
contrary again, why Tobi do not know how the Edo tensei works? Since he is an
uchiha...(perhaps, he should know) or he juz does dont care of the 2nd hokage jutsu...
other thing again is the Izanagi...think of it...Tobi has those Uchiha eyes...
sorry for this long comments hehe...tnx.
4 me i think in this chapter, Tobi appears to be later than Madara... both of course are Uchiha, regardless of it as a grandson or madara's son (kishi did happen give trace to dat, not yet)...
but contrary to the explanation of the mask guy when he is talking to sasuke that he is Madara...after when Sasuke defeated itachi. my question:how this is?
why Tobi is pretending madara? or he juz in still to the curse hatred thing between senju and uchiha...wen he explain to naruto, kakashi and yamato.
Other thing...is that Tobi knows more than Orichimaru, or i may say, he know already the immortality jutsu juz b4 Orochimaru does...dats why he still lives...(dat 3 years thing...if we trace the time table...when Orochimaru failed to take Sasuke body.) Tobi is using a vessel like orochimaru... Battle of brains between Orochimaru and Tobi...
Since Tobi can Create a revolutionary Zetsu and dis only black white Zetsu...using the Shodai cells...
contrary again, why Tobi do not know how the Edo tensei works? Since he is an
uchiha...(perhaps, he should know) or he juz does dont care of the 2nd hokage jutsu...
other thing again is the Izanagi...think of it...Tobi has those Uchiha eyes...
sorry for this long comments hehe...tnx.
KnowledgeGod
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Manga 475 pg 10
I will like to point out something about Tobi/Madara. When he was fighting against Torune... He grabbed him with both hands but only the right Zestu hand and arm was only infected. Why not the left hand and arm? This is why I keep stating that Tobi/Madara is a White Zestu clone of Madara and his Left 1/2 of his body underneath the White Zestu clone is the other 1/2 of Black Zestu.
Manga 510 pg 10
When Konan fought against him she destroyed his mask and the outter White Zestu skin covering up the Black Zestu 1/2 on the left side of his face. That's why it's shows pitch Black Zestu, that's not because of the shading of the artist. Another thing is that Konan blast affected both upper areas of Tobi/Madara twice. Both sides of the face and arms but only the right arm was affected doing the first blast. The second blast exposed the left side of his Black Zestu 1/2 underneath, that was cover by White Zestu clone. His left arm wasn't destroyed neither but he was killed but he used Izanagi..... I think I'm the closet to the truth than anybody on the site!!!! Quote me on it!
I will like to point out something about Tobi/Madara. When he was fighting against Torune... He grabbed him with both hands but only the right Zestu hand and arm was only infected. Why not the left hand and arm? This is why I keep stating that Tobi/Madara is a White Zestu clone of Madara and his Left 1/2 of his body underneath the White Zestu clone is the other 1/2 of Black Zestu.
Manga 510 pg 10
When Konan fought against him she destroyed his mask and the outter White Zestu skin covering up the Black Zestu 1/2 on the left side of his face. That's why it's shows pitch Black Zestu, that's not because of the shading of the artist. Another thing is that Konan blast affected both upper areas of Tobi/Madara twice. Both sides of the face and arms but only the right arm was affected doing the first blast. The second blast exposed the left side of his Black Zestu 1/2 underneath, that was cover by White Zestu clone. His left arm wasn't destroyed neither but he was killed but he used Izanagi..... I think I'm the closet to the truth than anybody on the site!!!! Quote me on it!
Tayyab Akram
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Re: Madara's identity and 6th coffin mystery Solved....
So I'm not saying that Tobi is Obito but there must be some link that we still don't know.
Nice theory but aren't you forgetting something. There was another guy named obito. He also must have something to do with this whole Tobi/Madara mystery. Otherwise why would Kishimoto include 6 mangas at the beginning of Shippuden. The first reason was to explain how Kakashi got Sharingan when he was not an Uchiha. But that's not all. We still don't know how did Kakashi got Mangekyo. One more interesting thing is that Kakashi's and Tobi's Mangekyo do the same thing but Tobi is so expert that he can use it instantly and on himself too. And when Kakashi used Mangekyo to throw the guided missile to another dimension in order to save Chogi, Pain said that "So, he is also got by that ocular jutsu".
So I'm not saying that Tobi is Obito but there must be some link that we still don't know.
KnowledgeGod
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Because he posses a sharingan or because he's a ninja its not because he's Obito! <<<< He's dead if you want to say because Tobi posses the other sharingan of Obito and Kakashi has the other, and that it symbolize being brothers some how. That's more plusable but its not likely a bolder and tons of Rocks crushed that side of his face where his eye resided...
Re: Madara's identity and 6th coffin mystery Solved....
nicely done, you were able to justify the possibility of it being Obito using the info giving without sounding like you "think" its Obito, merely that its possible, Kudos
But it's NOT possible to be obito. I already linked the manga pages in this thread 1 or 2 pages back.
The pages I linked showed kakashi, guy, Kurenai, and all the othe ninja who were the SAME age as obito were just kids still when Tobi attacks konaha....yet tobi is a full grown adult.
Besides THAT, obito died just a few years before that.
In order for obito to be tobi, he would have to have gone from a uchiha who JUST activated his sharingan, to a top tier shinobi capable of controlling the fox and fighting a KAGE.....after taking out minatos personal black ops bodyguards....
Get real...
And what would be his motive? Hmmmm? From what we saw of obito, he loved konaha and his team members so much he willingly gave his eye to kakashi....
The ONLY valid link between obito and Tobi is that kakashis MS ( which is obitos) is SIMILAR to Tobi's..... But we already saw that Tobi has hundreds of sharingan stashed away. He easily could have taken what was left of obitos eye after he died, but obitos BODY was crushed, and would have been a child yet tobi was an adult.
Just stop with the tobito theories. They are all FAIL.
The pages I linked showed kakashi, guy, Kurenai, and all the othe ninja who were the SAME age as obito were just kids still when Tobi attacks konaha....yet tobi is a full grown adult.
Besides THAT, obito died just a few years before that.
In order for obito to be tobi, he would have to have gone from a uchiha who JUST activated his sharingan, to a top tier shinobi capable of controlling the fox and fighting a KAGE.....after taking out minatos personal black ops bodyguards....
Get real...
And what would be his motive? Hmmmm? From what we saw of obito, he loved konaha and his team members so much he willingly gave his eye to kakashi....
The ONLY valid link between obito and Tobi is that kakashis MS ( which is obitos) is SIMILAR to Tobi's..... But we already saw that Tobi has hundreds of sharingan stashed away. He easily could have taken what was left of obitos eye after he died, but obitos BODY was crushed, and would have been a child yet tobi was an adult.
Just stop with the tobito theories. They are all FAIL.
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We are merely stated that tobi(madara) could be using Obitos body as a vessel. not that its actually Obito himself. Well at least i was. weel what was left of Obitos body, then mixed it with zetsu. we really have no idea, but i still agree that kisi would not have brought obito into the story just to show where Kakashi got his sharingan, and that Tobi has a similar ability.
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