[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 559 Discussion and 560 Predictions

[Naruto is Light]

I wouldn't be able to understand why Shisui Uchiha would do what the masked man is doing. He was explained to be a man with Narutos kind of ideals and the kind of man who has a good heart and makes sacrifices to protect people and peace, real peace not the masked mans temptation to control and create false peace.

 

[BestYoungNarutoFan]

Hmm Makes me wonder how long Kabuto knew that Tobi was not who he pretended to be???

Same here.

 

[Kesh]

I wouldn't be able to understand why Shisui Uchiha would do what the masked man is doing. He was explained to be a man with Narutos kind of ideals and the kind of man who has a good heart and makes sacrifices to protect people and peace, real peace not the masked mans temptation to control and create false peace.

But "Tobi's" idea is to bring about peace regardless how it is obtained. Like someone mentioned earlier Shisui was a master genjustsu user.

 

[TheSageHokage]

Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 559 Discussion/ 560 Predictions

I think Izuna is Tobi.
And during the time Madara took Izuna's eyes, he only took Izuna's left eye. While Izuna took Madara's right eye? Then both of them would have EMS hahaha. Plus I haven't seen a picture of Madara with both his eyes having EMS, only his left eye. While Tobi/Izuna's prominent sharingan was his right eye. Just a theory

good theory...

 

[BestYoungNarutoFan]

tobi is madara w/o a soul....a "shell of his former self"

he thought that nagato had brought him back.....didn't know it was edo tensai

tobi also said nagato was supposed to use gedo tech. on him after naruto vs pein

thats why edo madara mentioned nagato

i think nagato was supposed to bring back madara at some point in time, had he died.....only he didn't die his soul was somehow stripped and sent to pure world.....giving kabuto access to use it as a catalyst for edo tensai

they are both madara......watch i bet i'm right

If this is true. This means that Tobi's plan went off tangent because of Naruto beating Pein and setting Nagato free. His plan went off tangent even before Kabuto showed up. Which is why Tobi is in such a rush.

 

[Typhon Uchiha]

A shortened version of the theory i lost after writing it for an hour was that Madara is both of them...

Tobi is madara's memories in Obito's body, he would lose his own techniques as his original body was probably dying (old age?) but he would have Obito's technique Space Time Jutsu and the implanted DNA sample, from Madaras fight with Hashirama at the VotE, this would give him the ability to use Izanagi freely and ultimately Banbutsu Sozo, once he had his rinnegan and his plan was complete.

He made a plan long ago to unite his soon to be dead body ie edo tensei'd madara and EMS, with his new Tobi body, so that he could use EMS, Izanagi, Space Time Jutsu, Banbutsu Sozo and control the Jubi once it had been gathered. Essentially the sage of the six paths reborn plus his own EMS.

However he was meant to be reborn with gedo rinne tensei ,but Nagato uses it on the people of Konoha instead, thats why he talks about Nagato as it was part of his plan, Tobi adapted when the snake shows up, it fits in as he can revive his old body that way ie impure world resurrection. Sasuke was a sacrifice he was willing to make to gain ultimate power.

Madara mind is inside of Obito's body
Obito's body is Tobi, thus all the similarities.
Madara is Tobi.

 

[TheSageHokage]

tobi is madara w/o a soul....a "shell of his former self"

he thought that nagato had brought him back.....didn't know it was edo tensai

tobi also said nagato was supposed to use gedo tech. on him after naruto vs pein

thats why edo madara mentioned nagato

i think nagato was supposed to bring back madara at some point in time, had he died.....only he didn't die his soul was somehow stripped and sent to pure world.....giving kabuto access to use it as a catalyst for edo tensai

they are both madara......watch i bet i'm right

good 1...

 

[Neonian]

I Wonder Where The Sixth Sage Is ?

 

[BestYoungNarutoFan]

A shortened version of the theory i lost after writing it for an hour was that Madara is both of them...

Tobi is madara's memories in Obito's body, he would lose his own techniques as his original body was probably dying (old age?) but he would have Obito's technique Space Time Jutsu and the implanted DNA sample, from Madaras fight with Hashirama at the VotE, this would give him the ability to use Izanagi freely and ultimately Banbutsu Sozo, once he had his rinnegan and his plan was complete.

He made a plan long ago to unite his soon to be dead body ie edo tensei'd madara and EMS, with his new Tobi body, so that he could use EMS, Izanagi, Space Time Jutsu, Banbutsu Sozo and control the Jubi once it had been gathered. Essentially the sage of the six paths reborn plus his own EMS.

However he was meant to be reborn with gedo rinne tensei ,but Nagato uses it on the people of Konoha instead, thats why he talks about Nagato as it was part of his plan, Tobi adapted when the snake shows up, it fits in as he can revive his old body that way ie impure world resurrection. Sasuke was a sacrifice he was willing to make to gain ultimate power.

Madara mind is inside of Obito's body
Obito's body is Tobi, thus all the similarities.
Madara is Tobi.

Nice.. This is a more detailed version of someone else's who brought it up before you did. Very nice. This could very well be it.

 

[Zato]

Re: Madara's identity and 6th coffin mystery Solved....

In the chapter 512 Tobi said he able to create some life like form of the 1st just using tissue of his DNA but it had no mind of its own. If Tobi was able to create that just from tissue he stole from the 1st. I'm sure he could have created a clone for him self. Not everything is revealed yet because its obvious Tobi knows to create clones from DNA.

 

[K stunna man]

Re: Madara's identity and 6th coffin mystery Solved....

OMG!! Alot of people were right on the money with that prediction xd

 

[TinaBanina]

Amazing chapter!

 

[MrRedshades]

holy shit, who the **** is tobi, then?

i bet its Madara's Brother. Instead of his brother giving him his eye's, madara gave his eyes to the brother instead! and it killed him. and maybe tobi's immortality is a result of his EMS!

well its very improbable, but you never know!

 

[Rico Uchiha]

I have done this a few times, but I'd like to spread my thoughts

I think Tobi = Kagami Uchiha ..why?

1.Old Face, about same age as Danzou
2.Was in a team with Danzou during the Ninja War
--> explains why he wasn't surprised by any of Danzou's techniques
3.The team they where in was Tobirama's team..TOBIrama
--> Tobirama was the first Shinobi with space time Jutsu
--> Explains why Tobi could use S/T-jutsu without MS

4.The only two of Tobirama's former team not present at Demon Fox's attack --> D & T
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to see that they are clearly missing
5.The only two characters besides Yamato with Hashirama's cells --> Danzou & Tobi
6.The only two characters with a massive collection of Sharingan --> D & T
7.Both contributed to the Uchiha Massacre
8.Danzou never acted surprised about Tobi either, as if he knew who he was

They probably where close friends before, with the Uchiha massacre as a part of a plan and vision they shared. But it seems along the way, Danzou had more interest in becoming Hokage and Tobi (Kagami!) in bringing the whole world under his control.

I think while they didn't agree, they decided to just split up without a fight, because they where comrads once.

 

[serpiente clan]

tobi is the cell of senju and uchiha together thats why he can use izanagi,he got a full body like the six sage,that why he can may have the sharingan and Rinnegan... the only thing missing is the soul of madara

 

[BestYoungNarutoFan]

I have done this a few times, but I'd like to spread my thoughts

I think Tobi = Kagami Uchiha ..why?

1.Old Face, about same age as Danzou
2.Was in a team with Danzou during the Ninja War
--> explains why he wasn't surprised by any of Danzou's techniques
3.The team they where in was Tobirama's team..TOBIrama
--> Tobirama was the first Shinobi with space time Jutsu
--> Explains why Tobi could use S/T-jutsu without MS

4.The only two of Tobirama's former team not present at Demon Fox's attack --> D & T
--> see

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and than look at

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to see that they are clearly missing
5.The only two characters besides Yamato with Hashirama's cells --> Danzou & Tobi
6.The only two characters with a massive collection of Sharingan --> D & T
7.Both contributed to the Uchiha Massacre
8.Danzou never acted surprised about Tobi either, as if he knew who he was

They probably where close friends before, with the Uchiha massacre as a part of a plan and vision they shared. But it seems along the way, Danzou had more interest in becoming Hokage and Tobi (Kagami!) in bringing the whole world under his control.

I think while they didn't agree, they decided to just split up without a fight, because they where comrads once.

This is so wrong. YOU ARE WRONG! Jk man. Good one. This made 2nd my list.

 

[Kesh]

A shortened version of the theory i lost after writing it for an hour was that Madara is both of them...

Tobi is madara's memories in Obito's body, he would lose his own techniques as his original body was probably dying (old age?) but he would have Obito's technique Space Time Jutsu and the implanted DNA sample, from Madaras fight with Hashirama at the VotE, this would give him the ability to use Izanagi freely and ultimately Banbutsu Sozo, once he had his rinnegan and his plan was complete.

He made a plan long ago to unite his soon to be dead body ie edo tensei'd madara and EMS, with his new Tobi body, so that he could use EMS, Izanagi, Space Time Jutsu, Banbutsu Sozo and control the Jubi once it had been gathered. Essentially the sage of the six paths reborn plus his own EMS.

However he was meant to be reborn with gedo rinne tensei ,but Nagato uses it on the people of Konoha instead, thats why he talks about Nagato as it was part of his plan, Tobi adapted when the snake shows up, it fits in as he can revive his old body that way ie impure world resurrection. Sasuke was a sacrifice he was willing to make to gain ultimate power.

Madara mind is inside of Obito's body
Obito's body is Tobi, thus all the similarities.
Madara is Tobi.

What episode did it mention Obito having the Space Time Jutsu??? And what episode did it mention Nagato using the edo tensei on Madara??? The is a very excellent and exciting theory but you lost me a little. I need to go back and read/watch

 

[Typhon Uchiha]

tobi is the cell of senju and uchiha together thats why he can use izanagi,he got a full body like the six sage,that why he can may have the sharingan and Rinnegan... the only thing missing is the soul of madara

Read my earlier post it pretty much sums it up... i worte a longer better one but it didnt work and i lost it.

 

[BestYoungNarutoFan]

Read my earlier post it pretty much sums it up... i worte a longer better one but it didnt work and i lost it.

You should read Rico Uchiha's recent post. It may be equal of level to your theory.

 

[serpiente clan]

this was the first day I knew tobi is not madara

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