[Predictions] Naruto Manga Chapter 559 Discussion and 560 Predictions

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This thread is CRAZY!!! There are soooo many off the wall/random thoughts all over the da mn place!

I think that it's pretty simple, Tobi could only be either Kagami or Izuna & I've been sayin' that for some time simply because Tobi kept telling everyone that he's Madara but he never took off his mask. Why? Because he's NOT Madara! Tobi seems more sinister than what we know about Madara and it would be totally stupid if Kishi makes Tobi a split personality or some crap like that of Madara.

Either way, we'll find out soon enough! :D
 

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I have noticed a lot of people saying that tobi could now be obito and other dismissing it. Just a thought, would it not be possible for obito to have used a genjutsu to fake his on death and make them think his right eye was crushed and explain why only his right eye was visible in his mask until he transplanted a ninnengan in his left eye after peins death?
Because KAKASHI HAD ONE OF THE SHARINGAN!!! And seeing that Obito just awakened his Sharingan, his Genjutsu levels were probably very low. In addition, MADARA BURNNED OUT ONE OF HIS SHARINGAN using that Izangi (if I spelled that right) Jutsu against Konan He couldn't have faked it, because he would have died without it. The Idea that Tobi is Obito was funny and neat, but it needs to die.
 

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this isnt code geass


i have no idea as to who tobi could be. it cant be obito; it makes no sense for him to fake his death after having just developed the sharingan, and i see nothing that he could possibly gain from it, given it was a period of war too.

i dont think its izuna. He died when he got his eyes plucked no?
No, He continued to fight and beat as*es without his sight until finally he later died honourably in battle, fighting to the death even in his blind state
 
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Because KAKASHI HAD ONE OF THE SHARINGAN!!! And seeing that Obito just awakened his Sharingan, his Genjutsu levels were probably very low. In addition, MADARA BURNNED OUT ONE OF HIS SHARINGAN using that Izangi (if I spelled that right) Jutsu against Konan He couldn't have faked it, because he would have died without it. The Idea that Tobi is Obito was funny and neat, but it needs to die.
Lol. That was like one of the first theories of Tobi.
 

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can anyone tell me or if its true, if madara gave nagato the rinnegan or ethier he was born with it, and did kabuto Resurrected izuna uchiha or madara former body,and most all is madara just madara or tobi mask guy. I NEED TO NOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
 

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madara gave nagato the rinnegan when the **** was this?_? i thought he was born with it
Read my post at the very top of this page. Daggumit, nobody has replied to ANY of my posts. Not a single one. Sorry for wining, but whenever I type something with 2+ chapters in it, at least two or three people quote it nd reply.
 
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Here's my mysterious theory:

Tobi is Madara in Obito's Body

When Obito "died" Zetsu was probably watching the whole fight and decided to save obito, Healed him by fussing some tissue of his with his crushed face, limbs, Retired the crushed eye and placed Madara's Right eye there, (The only eye that tobi shows with his orange mask, and right we can only see Madara's Left eye ) and there you go, Madara is to powerfull even his right eye is enough to take over Obito's Body, but he wanted his real body back, so he started to make a plan to do so, and spotted nagato for that (he tells connan that he gave nagato the rinnegan) so he could be revived back later on.

SO!....... i say, Tobi = madara's "Spirit" into Obito's Body that want's to get his body back

The end!.
 

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ofc everyone vote 5 stars hahaha. For the record I knew Tobi was not Madara from the beginning ! :D I feel great now, shetloads of ppl arguing against me last year bout Tobi truly being Madara, well I guess the chapter can speak for itself :p Great chapter whole new suspicions and questions rise once again
 

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Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 559 Discussion/ 560 Predictions

It could Izuna.. He could have taken Madara's eyes back when Madara died, he must of to be resurrected. But apparently Izuna died so i dont know how it could happen.
 

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Okay, girls and guys, dudes and dudetts, chaps and... chops?.... Whatever...
I'd just like to bring few things to light: old lines and new.
+After the Pain arc, Madara (or so we thought) asked Naruto how he convinced Nagato to betray him. He then continued to state that Nagato was supposed to wait and use that technique for him.
+When Madara stepped out of the coffin, he said something about Nagato and his Rinnegan (by extention, the resurrection technique)
+When Madara chopped off his arm (for resons I can't remember), the interior looked like the material that composes the white Zetsus.
+White Zetsus clone themselves into whoever they absorb chakra from, includeing their techniques and jutsus. However, they're not as powerful or advanced.
+When Madara called himself "a shell of my former self" it means that something deteriorated and/or limited the extents of his powers.

Put two and two together and a quite reasonable hypothosis can be created.

Madara must hve created some plot round the time he gve Nagato the Rinnegan. When Nagato was a child, he awakened his eyes but couldn't use them to their full extent--includeing the resurrection technique. He must have creted a Zetsu cloan of himself in order to pull the strings and keep himself safe. This sounds stupid, but he may have used this cloan and Nagato as his own fail safe in case he died. His Zetsu cloan would put things in motion until the Bhijus were captured and the time came for the war to begin. Then his cloan would resurrect the true Madara and this way he would be safe all these years from being a target until the time was right. However, Nagato turned twoards Naruto and Konoha, bringing them back--but killing himself in the proccess. This put a huge dent in the origional plan, but the cloan could still keep things in motion and use Sasuke as a peice in his ploy for power untill an alterntive was found. Then, along comes a spider (or snake): Kabuto. Since Madara was actually dead and had no way of true resurrection, it ment that nothing stood between Kabuto and using the real Madara as blackmail into the clone's allegance. Once Madara was resurrected via Edo Tensei, he must have beleived that his origional plan was a success--seeing as to how he commented on Nagato's advance with the Rinnegan. However, he becme quite cross once he learned that he was an Edo Tensei zombie. Since this Madara clone is quite a bit weaker than his origional form (probably the reason for no Mngekyo Sharingan), he's using a new Six Paths of Pain and the Bijuus' chakra as his new fighting prowess. Since he's a Zetsu cloan of an Uchiha, he has both Uchiha and Senju DNA , allowing him to use the strange genjutsu that alters reality. With the Shringan and Rinnegan combined, he can cst a Genjutsu powerful enough to control the ten-tailed beast and complete the origional Madara's plan himself.

I mean, hey, you cloan an evil back-stabbing psycopath and you get another evil back-stabbing psycopath.

If that sounds cheey, my origional hypothosis is that it's Madara's brother. I had alot of good hypothosis and reasons for this twelve hours ago, but I can't remember and I'm happy with the ones above. So..... whatever. Life sucks, why be picky, right?
This is a good theory. It just can't be true yet until we witness the actual face.
 

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You never really know with Kishi. He could totally just be messing with us, I mean, couldn't Madara have made some type of clone of himself? I highly doubt this though. I think it's either Izuma(Most likely) or for some odd reason possibly So6p.
I'm pretty set on the Izuma theory though. Although I want it to be Obito because It would be a great twist in the story, It's gotta be Izuma. Wouldn't It have to be someone close to Madara?
 

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Seems to me that Zetsu may have an even greater role in this than first thought.


This kind of explains why he still called "Madara", Tobi. This could be a clue to the fact that Zetsu may have known Tobi since before he wore the mask, whatever the situation it seems we may find out a lot more on this topic as it seems Black Zetsu has entered the fray.


To me Zetsu may be Madara's trump card, or the key to the powers he has. which could explain his Senju DNA body, it also helps that we do not know where Zetsu came from.

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Umm I have an idea...
I think Tobi is Madara but Madara really did die at VOTE.
I think right before Madara died he used some weird jutsu and transported his consciousness into Hashirama. This means that Madara was dead and his soul passed on but his memories latched on to Hashirama's soul. Then Hashirama "ripped" that piece of soul off. This piece of soul manifested itself into a physical form. The physical form would have the perfect mix off Senju and Uchiha , have Madara's memories and obviously wouldn't be made up what a real human being would be. All the being had to do to "be Madara" was to take the eyes back out of the dead body.

I think maybe edo Madara was going to say "nagato managed to grow a new pair of eyes" in reference to the gedo rinne tensei technique? That way Madara's soul would reunite with his memories?
 
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I am just going to go out on a limb here an say that Tobi is Madara. So is the resurrected body. If I knew where the scan for this was I would link it but I recall Tobi saying he no longer has the ability to fight and his goal is to become whole again. I also know that Kabuto still called Tobi "Madara" after showing him the coffin. I believe that he found a way to divide his body/soul and the body that died when fighting the first had his abilities to fight (kind of like voldemort splitting his soul in harry potter). He is trying to become whole again much like Orochimaru tried to recover his arms.

Tobi also claimed to give Nagato the rinnengan and Madara and referenced him when he was resurrected. I feel this is another link to them being the same person; however, it does create a hole in that Madara would have been long dead before Nagato's birth. I can see this being explained by the recently resurrected half of Madara died much later than the fight with the 1st. I don't think it could be possible for nagato to be a lot older because it doesnt explain his training with jiraya.

Everything also seems to fit into place with the theory of obito being tobi but there is no motive. Yes its possible that he faked his death, yes Tobi's sharingan has the same abilities of that which was given to kakashi and yes the only eye he had exposed was his right (the one he could have faked being crushed) until he transplanted a rinnengan in his left. The only problem is I don't see any reason for him to do this. He has no motivation. It is possible that this is a missing puzzle piece to be reveled but until or if that time comes I feel that it is ploy by kishi to mislead people into thinking its obito
 

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Personally I don't get why Gaara realized something was wrong because of his eyes >.> I mean first thing I would have noticed is the super hair growth
 
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obito didn't fake a thing, lol,
his eye got crushed, lost his other eye, and then zetsu "repaired" all that was crushed and placed madara's right eye into the crushed eye spot ;), then madara's will took over obito's conciousness and there you have it.

The end! Any questions!? look at my post above.
 

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I am just going to go out on a limb here an say that Tobi is Madara. So is the resurrected body. If I knew where the scan for this was I would link it but I recall Tobi saying he no longer has the ability to fight and his goal is to become whole again. I also know that Kabuto still called Tobi "Madara" after showing him the coffin. I believe that he found a way to divide his body/soul and the body that died when fighting the first had his abilities to fight (kind of like voldemort splitting his soul in harry potter). He is trying to become whole again much like Orochimaru tried to recover his arms.

Tobi also claimed to give Nagato the rinnengan and Madara and referenced him when he was resurrected. I feel this is another link to them being the same person; however, it does create a hole in that Madara would have been long dead before Nagato's birth. I can see this being explained by the recently resurrected half of Madara died much later than the fight with the 1st. I don't think it could be possible for nagato to be a lot older because it doesnt explain his training with jiraya.

Everything also seems to fit into place with the theory of obito being tobi but there is no motive. Yes its possible that he faked his death, yes Tobi's sharingan has the same abilities of that which was given to kakashi and yes the only eye he had exposed was his right (the one he could have faked being crushed) until he transplanted a rinnengan in his left. The only problem is I don't see any reason for him to do this. He has no motivation. It is possible that this is a missing puzzle piece to be reveled but until or if that time comes I feel that it is ploy by kishi to mislead people into thinking its obito
Tobi's gotta be Obito. He should be around the same age as Kakashi. Tobi even knew Kakashi's name when they met?!?!?
 

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You never really know with Kishi. He could totally just be messing with us, I mean, couldn't Madara have made some type of clone of himself? I highly doubt this though. I think it's either Izuma(Most likely) or for some odd reason possibly So6p.
I'm pretty set on the Izuma theory though. Although I want it to be Obito because It would be a great twist in the story, It's gotta be Izuma. Wouldn't It have to be someone close to Madara?
Obito would be WAAAAY to obvious and it just wouldn't fit. But you know, Madara was the only one who knew about the moon-eye jutsu, and he was the only one who truely beleived that the Sage of the Six Paths actually existed and wasn't just a myth. But then again, if he was the Sage, then why take Madara's persona? Why give the Rinnegan to Nagato? Where'd he get two Sharingan? What happened to his jutsu? How'd he come back from the dead? How'd he get the First Hokage's DNA? Why is he evil?
There are just too many plot-holes and un-answered questions. Alot of the other hypothosees (not includeing Obito) make some degree of sense, depending on their reasons and ideas.
 
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