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Who is Toby? Theories and facts

There are some theories that say tobi is Fugaku (father of sasuke ans itachi), kamagi uchiha (like danzo), and young bother of madara. :flaw:

I will try solve this like a detective, or in another worlds with a timeline.

After put this, i wil says some facts, all most in order on timeline, that could help find the identy of tobi.


My hypothesis is this:

Itachi was right, madara help him kill his clan

Fugaku wanted make one revolution on konoha after kuubi attack konoha. Because all people thought that the uchihas were behind it.

Young brother of madara is dead like itachi is.

I believe that rinnegan eyes are unique in the world and only the sage of 6 paths have it, and only madara and the 1º hokage have acess to them.

Nagato was one more boy who receive his eyes from madara, and was controlled by madara. Madara wants peace. After all, 1º hokage gets to him, thats why all people believe that the evil madara was dead.

Tobi controlled one Kage to obtain control of Kisame, and makes kisame enter into akatsuki, like a spy for him.

Tobi controleed kyuubi to attack konoaha, to destroy or maybe to do something else the kyuubi were the distraction.

Uchiha clan realocated to far away of the center of konoha

Fugaku plan a attack to gain control of konoha.

Madara finds out about the plan of Fugaku and help itachi.

Tobi kill madara.

Tobi after kill madara and gets a stock of uchiha eyes and a the 1º hokage cells.

Tobi become Madara to the world, controlling nagato and akatsuki, and when akatsuki was weak he himself enter as a member.

Tobi work with orochimaru.

Tobi uses Izanagi and one unique tecnique of teleportation, with it he survive to Amaterasu flames.

Tobi wants to bring someone of the death, with Nagato's Rinne Tensei.

If you think on one name, only think tobi like that person, and you see that tobi is none of them.

What is left to answer is
'who is Tobi'?
'who he wants to bring from the death?'
'What is relation with Madara?'

To answer these questions i say:
We know that tobi is 100% new character, so I think is he is one of uchiha clan. Maybe the first one to uses Izanagi in the clan, and have a history with madara.

This timeline fits too in the theory of tobi is one of the elders of kanoha, the kamagi uchiha. But don't answer these questions.

The theory of obito being tobi, answer a lot of question about the body of Tobi, but i don't fit in a lot of other facts.

If itachi is right, then tobi maybe Shisui, but why tobi would atack kanoha with the kuubi, don't fit.

Still without answer is the question 'what is relation with Zetzu?'

I believe the Zetsu was one of experiments of one person like orochimaru, like one antecessor.

At the end i still don’t know for sure who is Tobi, any thoughts? But with these facts is easy to create a new character to feet in all these things, but this new character will not create a emotional reaction on naruto or sasuke, so something is missing.
 
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Re: Poll for the man behind the mask lets see if NB gets it right

and the First hokage is out of question his soul has been sealed away same with Nagato.
Fugaku and Orochimaru i will try to add...



yeah and i am waiting for a mod to do that ..
I'm not trying to say it's any of them or none of them. It's just that to not include a person because you don't agree is a bit biased. All though I agree with you that it's not him(hokage) lol~

Anyway, hope a mod will help then. xD

Also @ the Nagato thing. I believe the argument is that there is another Nagato. Or something. I didn't create the theory but, I've seen it around here somewhere.
 

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Re: Poll for the man behind the mask lets see if NB gets it right

Add an "other" option so I can vote for it. Or just add more people like Fugaku, zetsu, Madara's clone or the Elder son or something.
 

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Re: Who do you think is behind the mask

I sort of like the idea of it being Obito. Maybe, somehow, his right eye wasn't crushed by that boulder, and that's why his old mask had only a right eye-hole; he gave his other eye to Kakashi. That might also explain why his body seems to be almost completely made of a Zetsu-like substance, because half of it was crushed, so he needed a new one.

I also like to think the reason he said Kakashi's "Kamui" ability wouldn't work on him, is because it's Obito's own eye that's using the ability, and for some reason he has an immunity to his own Sharingan's power (Or atleast a way to stop it). If you look at the similarities between Kamui, and Tobi's teleporting ability (The way it looks as people get sucked in, and the fact that they both take people to an 'alternate dimension' of some sort), maybe that's because bending space and time is Obito's sharingan's power.

I know it's all a huge stretch, some of it might not even make any sense, but it's fun to think about.
 

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Re: Poll for the man behind the mask lets see if NB gets it right

Add an "other" option so I can vote for it. Or just add more people like Fugaku, zetsu, Madara's clone or the Elder son or something.
yeah the other option is coming up....
sorry but i made the thread a little early so a mod will add it in due time guys...
 

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Re: Who do you think is behind the mask

i think tobi is madara he sad that he was weak after fighting with 1st hokage. like muu spliting jutsu, i think half of his body er dead and half er alive that why he weak and I think there are 2 Madaras cause the dead one and teh living one have the same intetion and information cause the edo tensie madara said " nagato that brat he was finally able to use RINNE tensei " and in chapter 453 afte rnagato died tobi/madara said exactly the same " Nagato that traitor he was supposed to use rinne tensei ON ME !" why he says ON ME? that means in some way there are 2 madaras dont know how he managed but i think this is a proof ! WHO find this logical?
 

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Re: New Theory

"tobi" is izuna (madara's brother), tryin to take over the world to give madara a even worse reputation and havin control over the world, Bi-winning would Charly sheen say

What u guys think
I post something like it when I start here.
I think that is his brother. because it never say that he die.
Thats why he knows so much abut the clan and Madara.
 

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New tobi theory

people have been saying that they are sure that tobi is Izuna or kagami now but i definitely dont think its kagami lol and it MIGHT be izuna but i thought he died in battle after his eye got removed.... MY theory is that its some kinda person who has the dna of both madara and senju kinda of like how yamato has dna from the first in him ......what do you guys think??
 

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Re: Who is Toby? Theories and facts

i think tobi is madara he sad that he was weak after fighting with 1st hokage. like muu spliting jutsu, i think half of his body er dead and half er alive that why he weak and I think there are 2 Madaras cause the dead one and teh living one have the same intetion and information cause the edo tensie madara said " nagato that brat he was finally able to use RINNE tensei " and in chapter 453 afte rnagato died tobi/madara said exactly the same " Nagato that traitor he was supposed to use rinne tensei ON ME !" why he says ON ME? that means in some way there are 2 madaras dont know how he managed but i think this is a proof ! WHO find this logical?
 

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Re: Tobi is Fugaku (Sasuke and Itachis father)

First off, it's a theory, and one that actually shows a reason for why Tobi hates konaha. Thats something that's missing from obito and Shisui theories. Those 2 had no reason to hate konaha.

Second, I have provided images to back what I claim, can you please link the chapter that shows that Itachi had MS before the massacre?

It was always assumed he got it from killing Shisui, but recently we found out Shisui willingly gave one of his eyes to itachi, and itachi did NOT kill him.

What else could have triggered his MS? Only 1 thing makes sense, and that is that the stress of killing his family and clan awakened his MS.
 

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Re: Tobi Madara's Younger Brother

i think tobi is madara he sad that he was weak after fighting with 1st hokage. like muu spliting jutsu, i think half of his body er dead and half er alive that why he weak and I think there are 2 Madaras cause the dead one and teh living one have the same intetion and information cause the edo tensie madara said " nagato that brat he was finally able to use RINNE tensei " and in chapter 453 afte rnagato died tobi/madara said exactly the same " Nagato that traitor he was supposed to use rinne tensei ON ME !" why he says ON ME? that means in some way there are 2 madaras dont know how he managed but i think this is a proof ! WHO find this logical?
 
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Tobi/Madara is really Madara!!

Okay, hear me out. What if Kishi is just playing all of us? I mean, what if it's this simple? Imagine. Kabuto realizes he's got a trump card who happens to be a very powerful ninja in his or her own respect who did something really important in ninja history but has either been long forgotten or is just being added into the story much akin to the Gold and Silver brothers and the Nine Tails Chakra. But, this ninja was born way back when nobody who is alive currently can even recognize their chakra. This would set up the opportunity to take advantage of a really close to perfect transformation jutsu similar to what Zetsu is using. Keep in mind i'm not saying that it's a Zetsu. I mean, when "Madara" was summoned, we only seen the hands of whoever was summoned. Kabuto has simply realized that he can mess with everyone's head and make them think he summoned Madara. But he didn't.

This conspiracy theory is flawless xd
 

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Re: New tobi theory

Why do you feel to make a whole new thread... just comment on a current one with a "Tobi Theory" and put your thoughts in there... i really dont understand the need for ten of the same type of thread.. that is trying to find out "who's behind the mask"... ijs..
 

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Re: Poll for the man behind the mask lets see if NB gets it right

i think tobi is madara he sad that he was weak after fighting with 1st hokage. like muu spliting jutsu, i think half of his body er dead and half er alive that why he weak and I think there are 2 Madaras cause the dead one and teh living one have the same intetion and information cause the edo tensie madara said " nagato that brat he was finally able to use RINNE tensei " and in chapter 453 afte rnagato died tobi/madara said exactly the same " Nagato that traitor he was supposed to use rinne tensei ON ME !" why he says ON ME? that means in some way there are 2 madaras dont know how he managed but i think this is a proof ! WHO find this logical?
 
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