Madara vs Nagato.

[~Uzumaki~]

You're totally wrong, do you really think a space/time suction could be absorbed? Kuchyose no Jutsu is a Ninjutsu too, but can it be absorbed? Can a sealing technique be absorbed? Don't take everything that literally. And as I said, Madara would stab him, like he did with Konan. Nagato can't do anything about his dematerialization, so he achieves an easy victory. On top of that he knows everything about Nagatao.

And pretending to attack definitely works, 'cause Madara dematerialized himself in an instant. Torune was a sensor type, but he didn't warn Fuu not to attack Madara, because Madara dematerialized in the last moment.

Torune is a sensor type? since when? Fuu was the sensor type he couldnt warn Torune cuz Madara already dematerialised but this is different as Nagato is seeing it with his own eyes, do u know the speed of info transmission between the eyes and the brain? Answer-its instantaneous, instantaneous as you looking at what Im writing, understanding it, getting annoyed by it. All in an instant, Nagato can absorb all ninjutsu so Madara's attacks are dead. Madara cant stab him like he did with Konan cuz Nagato(having the eyes of his summons on the battlefield) will see it coming and dodge it then counter attack with chakra blade or gedo's sealing dragon(best option since Madara is immortal)

 

[Missing Uchiha]

it depends if Madara has sharigan and rienngan than him. If not than maybe a tie

 

[FloriGlori]

Yes, I mistaked their names. Still, Fuu sensed Madara immediately when he appeared behind him. Madara can do the same against Nagato, he can appear behind him & stab him, without Nagato noticing it. Even if Nagato can see his chakra, it makes no difference. Madara can pretend to stab him dematerialized, and materialize himself in the last moment. Even if Madara gets hit with Shinra Tensei, the interval is still there. Nagato is practical chanceless against Madara. You even think that Bee could beat the Sannin, don't make me laugh. :'D

 

[~Uzumaki~]

Yes, I mistaked their names. Still, Fuu sensed Madara immediately when he appeared behind him. Madara can do the same against Nagato, he can appear behind him & stab him, without Nagato noticing it. Even if Nagato can see his chakra, it makes no difference. Madara can pretend to stab him dematerialized, and materialize himself in the last moment. Even if Madara gets hit with Shinra Tensei, the interval is still there. Nagato is practical chanceless against Madara. You even think that Bee could beat the Sannin, don't make me laugh. :'D

Lol. He can see the stabbing whetther dematerialized or not, avoid it, whenever Madara solidifies he gets him and B can beat the sannin. He's that awesome.

 

[FloriGlori]

No & no. Madara has so many opportunities to trick him, because he (de)materializes himself in an instant, on top of that he knows everything about Nagato. But still there's nothing that Nagato could do to damage him. It's obvious that Madara got the upper hand here even without rinnegan, whether you like it or not.

 

[Roy]

If we're talking about the Madara before the rinnegan, I'd go with Nagato, since Madara had to use Izanagi in the fight with Konan, and Nagato obviously is stronger than Konan o.o

And Madara can only "dematerialize" one part at a time, I believe that was shown in the fight between him and Minato, where he evaded a kunai but as that happened he got hit in the back by a rasengan, if I remember right that is.. and if so, Nagato using his six paths will surely have the upper hand.

If Madara fights Nagato while he also has a rinnegan I'd say Madara would win.

 

[~Uzumaki~]

No & no. Madara has so many opportunities to trick him, because he (de)materializes himself in an instant, on top of that he knows everything about Nagato. But still there's nothing that Nagato could do to damage him. It's obvious that Madara got the upper hand here even without rinnegan, whether you like it or not.

you havent been able to prove it, I have been able to prove my own arguement with facts, Madara knew all abt Minato's FTG but that didnt stop him from losing without scratching Minato, there was not a tech Minato used that Madara didn't know abt yet he lost. Same will happen here, FaCE tHE FaCtS

 

[arv993]

Nagato doesnt need to make summons to go underground because Madara has to solidify for an attack on the surface, his absorption is a space time ninjutsu and Nagato can absorb all ninjutsu so Madara has no working attack without Rinnegan and he still has no working attack with it cuz Nagato can still absorb all ninjutsu and taijutsu wont work cuz if his asura armor and genjutsu....Madara has never used any in any battle known.

he can't absorb space time ninjutsu you are taking it way too literally, why did he not absorb the frogs then they too come from ninjutsu, and he can be stabbed by a kunai or a weapon(that bananaleaf) he has no defenses to his head dude. he can also probably absorb ftg kunais in your eyes can he not. dude he can't absorb space time ninjutsu.

 

[arv993]

you havent been able to prove it, I have been able to prove my own arguement with facts, Madara knew all abt Minato's FTG but that didnt stop him from losing without scratching Minato, there was not a tech Minato used that Madara didn't know abt yet he lost. Same will happen here, FaCE tHE FaCtS

how is nagato gonna land a hit on him that is what the other guy is trying to say when madara's chances are much higher considering he can get in a blind spot and can either absorb him or kill him via kunai coming from any direction. you are so ignorant its funny minato is the fastest ninja in the world he was able to land hits on him only becos he was instantaneously fast with ftg. nagato has nothing on him he has low mobility, does not have an attack that lasts more than 5 minutes. and like florigori said he can come from anywhere and attack him and nagato most likely would not see him becos if he comes from underground there are no eyes to monitor him plus nagato has low mobility so he can be stabbed or absorbed.

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look he goes underground does nagato have eyes there allowing him to see madara

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he can turn intangible and turn back tangible in an instant

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trick opponents and the second he sees an attack he turns intangible

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ticked opponent again to make it seem an attack do like the other guy said he can easily do this against nagato

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ppl don't have much time to respond not even sensors like foo ppl who are really fast like naruto and others can avoid it but nagato who really can't move a lot can counter it highly unlikely

And if we are only talking pre-rinnegan madara he can use izanagi as last resort(if he ever needed) to give him an opening to kill or absorb nagato.

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So if you look at the fight between them he can most likely kill him or absorb him but if things get bad he can use izanagi and use that as an opening to kill him as well. So madara's chances are just higher in comparison to nagato who would have even a difficulty getting a hit on him.

 

[~Uzumaki~]

how is nagato gonna land a hit on him that is what the other guy is trying to say when madara's chances are much higher considering he can get in a blind spot and can either absorb him or kill him via kunai coming from any direction. you are so ignorant its funny minato is the fastest ninja in the world he was able to land hits on him only becos he was instantaneously fast with ftg. nagato has nothing on him he has low mobility, does not have an attack that lasts more than 5 minutes. and like florigori said he can come from anywhere and attack him and nagato most likely would not see him becos if he comes from underground there are no eyes to monitor him plus nagato has low mobility so he can be stabbed or absorbed.

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look he goes underground does nagato have eyes there allowing him to see madara

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he can turn intangible and turn back tangible in an instant

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trick opponents and the second he sees an attack he turns intangible

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ticked opponent again to make it seem an attack do like the other guy said he can easily do this against nagato

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ppl don't have much time to respond not even sensors like foo ppl who are really fast like naruto and others can avoid it but nagato who really can't move a lot can counter it highly unlikely

And if we are only talking pre-rinnegan madara he can use izanagi as last resort(if he ever needed) to give him an opening to kill or absorb nagato.

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So if you look at the fight between them he can most likely kill him or absorb him but if things get bad he can use izanagi and use that as an opening to kill him as well. So madara's chances are just higher in comparison to nagato who would have even a difficulty getting a hit on him.

While madara is underground he his intangible and therefore harmless, when he comes to the surface, he will be spotted and taken note of, Nagato can tell when he's tangible or intangible with his rinnegan which can see chakra so he'll know when to attack. also Madara's turning intangible is not so instantaneous as Minato hit him with rasengan before he could do it. His coming from anywhere is countered by Nagato's all round vision
He can absorb Madara's space time ninjutsu, the reason he cant absorb frogs is that the jutsu that brought them has already been executed, he cant absorb ftg kunai cuz they are kunai, not jutsu, he can absorb a tech in the middle of its execution for example rasengan, rasenshuriken and madara's sucking, Madara cant sneak and stab him cuz he will be seen by nagato's many eyes on the battlefield, izanagi holds no advantage either cuz his 360 vision will still see him when he suddenly comes back, the fight will drag on till Nagato wins and if Nagato seals him, he cant come back, Izanagi is not so plausible as the jutsu requires the sharingan to be exposed(as seen by Danzo removing the gauntlets and seals on his arm and Madara removing the other part of his mask before using the jutsu) so if Madara's mask is on, he cant do it wen Nagato eventually gets him(which Nagato definitely will) so GAME OVER. Madara cant beat Nagato.

 

[arv993]

While madara is underground he his intangible and therefore harmless, when he comes to the surface, he will be spotted and taken note of, Nagato can tell when he's tangible or intangible with his rinnegan which can see chakra so he'll know when to attack. also Madara's turning intangible is not so instantaneous as Minato hit him with rasengan before he could do it. His coming from anywhere is countered by Nagato's all round vision
He can absorb Madara's space time ninjutsu, the reason he cant absorb frogs is that the jutsu that brought them has already been executed, he cant absorb ftg kunai cuz they are kunai, not jutsu, he can absorb a tech in the middle of its execution for example rasengan, rasenshuriken and madara's sucking, Madara cant sneak and stab him cuz he will be seen by nagato's many eyes on the battlefield, izanagi holds no advantage either cuz his 360 vision will still see him when he suddenly comes back, the fight will drag on till Nagato wins and if Nagato seals him, he cant come back, Izanagi is not so plausible as the jutsu requires the sharingan to be exposed(as seen by Danzo removing the gauntlets and seals on his arm and Madara removing the other part of his mask before using the jutsu) so if Madara's mask is on, he cant do it wen Nagato eventually gets him(which Nagato definitely will) so GAME OVER. Madara cant beat Nagato.

wow nagato can't just beat him cos he sees the second he comes to the surface he does not have anything that fast to hit him with plus his intangibility is instant and 4th was just faster than madara which nagato is not just cos 4th did it does not mean nagato can ur logic is so flawed when u make a point like that 4th was able to trick him and had something even faster than madara himself FTG lvl 2 did the trick. it doesn't matter if he sees him for a sec he can't do anything about it he would get stabbed or absorbed. he can't absorb space time ninjutsu dude stop taking the words so literally all madara does is absorb someone he can't absorb something that he himself would get absorbed by. ur points are so flawed u think he can't even get hit because he has 360 vision no he can be especially by ppl who just come out of nowhere and into his field of sight, sorry to break it you nagato is not that fast and would probably get hit or absorbed. and with izanagi he would think madara is dead but when really he is not and he is vulnerable for another attack. nagato has little to no chances his vision is not gonna be that beneficial when most of the time he can't see him, his attacks can't even touch him another disadvantage, he is not fast whatsoever another disadvantage that makes him an easier target for madara and he has a back up of izanagi which nagato can't do anything cos its the ultimate jutsu that puts genjutsu on oneself and by the time he realizes madara would have killed him. dude u have no proof to back up ur statements his vision is flawed and has blindspots not perfect, itachi managed to take it out, and kabuto even said that his shared vision was beneficial but when it was in a blindspot where madara would be its pretty much over for him. nagato just has so many disadvantages against madara that its very unlikely for him to win.


And dude madara can use izanagi with the mask what the hell are u talking about man stop writing your own story here danzo had a iron armor that has nothing to do with madara not being able to use izanagi without his mask dude i was just lol when u said that. how would nagato even realize that he even used izanagi he would only die as soon as he does and 360 vision won't help him just becos he sees him for a sec he can just auto win in ur logic that makes no sense whatsoever he ca still be hurt at that close of a proximity.

 

[~Uzumaki~]

wow nagato can't just beat him cos he sees the second he comes to the surface he does not have anything that fast to hit him with plus his intangibility is instant and 4th was just faster than madara which nagato is not just cos 4th did it does not mean nagato can ur logic is so flawed when u make a point like that 4th was able to trick him and had something even faster than madara himself FTG lvl 2 did the trick. it doesn't matter if he sees him for a sec he can't do anything about it he would get stabbed or absorbed. he can't absorb space time ninjutsu dude stop taking the words so literally all madara does is absorb someone he can't absorb something that he himself would get absorbed by. ur points are so flawed u think he can't even get hit because he has 360 vision no he can be especially by ppl who just come out of nowhere and into his field of sight, sorry to break it you nagato is not that fast and would probably get hit or absorbed. and with izanagi he would think madara is dead but when really he is not and he is vulnerable for another attack. nagato has little to no chances his vision is not gonna be that beneficial when most of the time he can't see him, his attacks can't even touch him another disadvantage, he is not fast whatsoever another disadvantage that makes him an easier target for madara and he has a back up of izanagi which nagato can't do anything cos its the ultimate jutsu that puts genjutsu on oneself and by the time he realizes madara would have killed him. dude u have no proof to back up ur statements his vision is flawed and has blindspots not perfect, itachi managed to take it out, and kabuto even said that his shared vision was beneficial but when it was in a blindspot where madara would be its pretty much over for him. nagato just has so many disadvantages against madara that its very unlikely for him to win.

he can absorb the suction-its a ninjutsu.

he can see Madara-360 perfect vision as stated during Jiraiya's fight with Pain

he can attack-Bansho tenin got Naruto when he fought Edo Nagato and Naruto is the fastest character in the series now so Shinra Tensei can do likewise

he can avoid Madara's stabbing if he can use 360 vision to avoid Jiraiya's sage mode attacks then he can avoid Madara or he can block with a summoning like he did with Jiraiya's needle attack.

AFTER HE ABSORBS THE ABSORBING TECHNIQUE, MADARA WILL BE SOLID THEN NAGATO CAN

he can seal the immortal-gedo's sealing dragon or human paths soul removal

he can rip shodai cells from his body-with the use of chakra blade which stops you from being able to control ur chakra which was what led to this in Danzo's case(cancelling out the possibility of Izanagi)

Nagato wins. accept it cuz Im not going to repeat myself, ok?

 

[lanakau888]

Is this six path's of pain or nagato?

 

[arv993]

he can absorb the suction-its a ninjutsu.

he can see Madara-360 perfect vision as stated during Jiraiya's fight with Pain

he can attack-Bansho tenin got Naruto when he fought Edo Nagato and Naruto is the fastest character in the series now so Shinra Tensei can do likewise

he can avoid Madara's stabbing if he can use 360 vision to avoid Jiraiya's sage mode attacks then he can avoid Madara or he can block with a summoning like he did with Jiraiya's needle attack.

AFTER HE ABSORBS THE ABSORBING TECHNIQUE, MADARA WILL BE SOLID THEN NAGATO CAN

he can seal the immortal-gedo's sealing dragon or human paths soul removal

he can rip shodai cells from his body-with the use of chakra blade which stops you from being able to control ur chakra which was what led to this in Danzo's case

Nagato wins.

he can't take out his soul cos he has to be close to him which something he can't do and he can't touch him either so that plan won't work out

bansho tenin won't work his whole body is intangible and nagato can't touch him

j-man was fighting pain not nagato, nagato lacks mobility so his chances of avoiding it are slim to none

and gedo mazo puts nagato in a bad position

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its slow and makes him vulnerable like i said

lol xd xd madara can beat his 360 vision let me show you how its not an auto win

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ok ignore the *** part but if madara comes from nowhere really fast during his 5 sec interval what can nagato do even if he sees him he would be absorbed or can be killed by a weapon he has no defense against it and is not so fast to really avoid madara's attack.

 

[arv993]

Is this six path's of pain or nagato?

nagato dude

And @ uzumaki dude "accept it" u have almost no points and don't back it up and say stuff like he can just wins and avoids madara's attacks becos 360 vision which madara can one destroy and two is mostly underground(where no eyes would be to monitor him) his attack would not be something nagato would expect and have a defense for. honestly dude u have the common sense of ur avatar CHARLIE SHEEN(just a joke don't take it too seriously) i am done arguing we disagree no matter what so no point in this discussion.

 

[FloriGlori]

you havent been able to prove it, I have been able to prove my own arguement with facts, Madara knew all abt Minato's FTG but that didnt stop him from losing without scratching Minato, there was not a tech Minato used that Madara didn't know abt yet he lost. Same will happen here, FaCE tHE FaCtS

No, I underlined my point of view with facts & even proof from the manga. Your point of view is merely based on theory. It's neither proved that a space/time sunction can be absorbed, nor is it proved that.. well, you don't have anymore arguments. Well, apart from the fact that Madara didn't know about Minatos ability to teleport to his Kunai, Nagato possesses no jutsu that could teleport him like Minato. Madara would simply trick & kill Nagato, that's obvious, whether you like it or not. But talking so somebody who thinks that Bee could beat all Sannin at once seems senseless anyway. ;D

 

[~Uzumaki~]

he can't take out his soul cos he has to be close to him which something he can't do and he can't touch him either so that plan won't work out

bansho tenin won't work his whole body is intangible and nagato can't touch him

j-man was fighting pain not nagato, nagato lacks mobility so his chances of avoiding it are slim to none

and gedo mazo puts nagato in a bad position

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its slow and makes him vulnerable like i said

lol xd xd madara can beat his 360 vision let me show you how its not an auto win

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ok ignore the *** part but if madara comes from nowhere really fast during his 5 sec interval what can nagato do even if he sees him he would be absorbed or can be killed by a weapon he has no defense against it and is not so fast to really avoid madara's attack.

seriously, you couldnt take like 3 mins to get the manga scan? he can summon that strange polar bear thing he used to block Jiraiya, for an physical attack and suck the suction since its a ninjutsu

 

[arv993]

seriously, you couldnt take like 3 mins to get the manga scan? he can summon that strange polar bear thing he used to block Jiraiya, for an physical attack and suck the suction since its a ninjutsu

polar bear idk what ur talking about on that one. Yea manga scan's ok but this is funnier anyway.

 

[lanakau888]

if they both have manga knowledge (meaning nagato knows about madara's five minute intangibility, and all his abilities) then nagato will take to the skies, instead of staying on the ground. This will make madara unable to sneak attack from underground.

-madara will not absorb nagato because nagato can pull off shinra tensei (once it is used) is instant, and madara's absoption is not, and madara will be solid when he is trying to absorb nagato, meaning he will be blasted away from shinra tensei.

- They both have their one-hit moves = madara has his absoption (which will not work) and nagato has his animal path. If nagato gets his hand on madara when madara tries to absorb him, its all over for madara, because he will be shinra tenseied away and soul-ripped at the same time.

Its pretty common knowledge that madara before getting the rinnegan was weaker than Pain and possibly even itachi.

 

[~Uzumaki~]

polar bear idk what ur talking about on that one. Yea manga scan's ok but this is funnier anyway.

I did laugh.