Whose Smarter Itachi or Shikamaru
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-The Agent-
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It was for Sasuke but he still ended up using it to break free from the jutsu. Which is pretty genius to me.
lanakau888
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Itachi is a genius as he has great foresight and planning for non-combat scenarios.
Shikamaru is a genius in that in a battle, after observing the opponent for a while, he can come up with multiple strategies and steps for countering an opponent before the opponent even decides what he is going to do.
So in non-battle situations, itachi can plan and predict better
In battle/ combat situations shikamaru is smarter.
Shikamaru is a genius in that in a battle, after observing the opponent for a while, he can come up with multiple strategies and steps for countering an opponent before the opponent even decides what he is going to do.
So in non-battle situations, itachi can plan and predict better
In battle/ combat situations shikamaru is smarter.
DigitalMonster
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There's no exact conclusion if you are comparing others' intelligence. Especially if both had shown that they can't be outsmarted in all crucial situations they're in,however you have to forcibly lean this to Itachi due to age factor, skillfulnesses and a whole lot more experience in shinobi world.
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itachi is better in both, sasuke( who is not weak) came to battle itachi with a plan and intent to kill, and still iatchi fought him while he was sick AND wasn't really trying to kill him, but he still managed to get oro out of him, then seal him, and then put amaterasu in his eye so he set madara on fire, he did exactly what he wanted and sasuke's plan didn't make a difference, and later madara said "itachi, he never cease to amaze" and "if he had known more about me i'd be DEAD!"
lanakau888
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And none of itachi's planning for his battle helped him win the battle, it just help him accomplish his non-battle related goals. I don't see how that proves itachi is battle-smart since he planned all of these things that hurt his ability to battle outside of battle. If itachi actually has a plans something outside of a battle that helps him win the battle against an opponent who is out of his league, then I will say that he is shikamaru battle smart.
non-battle related? weakening him just enough without killing him to take oro out of him and then seal oro IS battle related, and he had to plan this so he wouldn't die before he did all this, so he had to make the battle length just perfect for him, that entire battle went the way itachi planned it. and any time you bring a plan into a battle, it's battle related since anything in a battle can change. and I guess it will be hard to convince you then since there aren't many ninja that's out of itachi's league!!
lanakau888
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Itachi could have killed that sasuke any time, I don't care if you plan things in a battle, if it doesn't help you win the battle then it is not battle intelligence
Plan so that he wouldn't die before this!? So now trying to prolong your life after contracting a disease is called battle smart?
Planning a what you are going to do outside of a battle =/= planning multiple battle strategies that account for moves opponent MIGHT perform IN battle and winning despite having abilities way lower than said opponent.
Shikamaru is smarter in battle than itachi
i would say itachi...shikamaru just has common sense, they over exaggerate it in this show, becuase if he was smart as people say he would have been capture sasuke b4 he left, saved asuma, and be a higher rank..even if he is a jonin..were itachi was a ambu way younger than shikamaru is now, so itachi has to be way smarter to be able to do this duty, itachi took down the smartest guy in naruto other than himself and shikamaru, which is orochimaru
Itachi2304
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it really doenst matter lol. What has shikamaru shown in the anime or manga that makes him smarter than itachi lol? he figured out hidans weakness!!! omg he is the smartest cahracter in the series because he figured out hidans weakness! Every character who has encountered itachi has been blown away by itachis genius. Madara was outstanded by how far ahead itachi planned after his death. Kabuto was jaw dropping when he saw what itachi was doing against nagato. Did anyone even say what itachis IQ is? does IQ have anything to do with it anyways? u may have an IQ of 100000 but if u never learn anything whats the point of all that IQ? Madara Itachi And yondaime go beyond the comparison of IQ. they are too smart to be compared with IQ. Itachi figured out all of nagatos weaknesses within seconds. you say shikamaru is always planned 10 steps ahead in battle. WELL ITACHI HAD AN ENTIRE BATTLE PLANNED OUT LOL! the entire sasuke itachi battle was planned out. how many steps was that? he had planned out after his death to ambush madara with amaterasu. he had given naruto shisuis eye planning out the slight chance sasuke would betray konoha. IN the end itachi is now alive becuase of it. Itachi made naruto look like a retard when he talked to naruto. Dude shikamaru is the smartest of the leaf. But there are ranks beyond just smart. shikamaru may be a genius but itachi is beyond genius. Same goes for yondaime and madara. Remember the Uchiha were known for their genius. And itachi was a prodigy of the geniuses. That alone has to be accounted for. Shikamaru graduated academy at 13? itachi graduated at 6 if i recall correctly or maybe 7. regardless half the time it took shika to graduate. Itachi Is beyond shikamarus level of genius. Its so obvious. Tell me one thing shikamaru has done that proves he is beyond itachis intellect. 1 thing and i will believe u.
It was me who called you a fanboy and i could do it with every right lol.every regular neutral naruto fan would say that shika outsmarts itachi in many ways. so please keep it realistic.. i dont say itachi is stupid but:
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Do ur homework before you start jabbing.. dont think itachi has a IQ from over 200 does he.
lanakau888
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Look the fact is itachi plans things outside of battle.
Shikamaru formulates plans/strategies and multiple options to respond to the opponents next moves IN the heat of battle.
Shikamaru formulates plans/strategies and multiple options to respond to the opponents next moves IN the heat of battle.
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Itachi2304
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wait wait wait. are u saying the only intellect in battle? anything done outside of battle isnt intellect? are u ****ing kidding me? so yondaimes plan wasnt intellegent huh? any dumbass could have done it. Itachis plan wasnt complete genius right? even after his death he had his plan going. Are u seirously that ignorant? Wait so u are only smart if u win the battle right? u cant be smart and lose? kakuzo was the smartest guy on the battlefield against kakashi and the others. he lost though. (shika wasnt there so he isnt included)). shikamaru lost the hidan vs asuma and shika battle. does that make him stupid? Hell no. Shika lost against temari in the chuunin exams. Does that make temari smarter than him? HELL NO. what the hell are u talking about? so if u dont win u arent smart?? and intellegence is only battle related? I will be honest it seems like ur trying to support shika as much as u can. I like shika. I think he is REALLY smart. But he isnt on itachi yondaime and madaras level of intellect
Itachi2304
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lol? did u even see how itachi figured out all of nagatos weakpoints within milliseconds? orochimaru ambushed him and he took orochimaru down in one shot. knew dediaras weakness and took deidara down in one shot. what he portrayed against nagato isnt battle smart? lets see how many weakpoints he figured out in one manga. THe shared vision, found where the eyes cannot see and hit them all, the soul eating naruto (saved naruto by stopping it from eating his soul hence he found its weakness) saved bee by cutting the arm that was going to blast him, found chibaku tenseis weakness and finally found nagatos opening and weakness and attacked him. in the previous manga he took out all the summons with one amaterasu. hence he found their "weakness" which is a good old fashion amaterasu. itahci did this WITHOUT ANY OF HIS COMRADES DYING. now lets see shika. he found out hidan needs to be in the seal to perfom the ritual, and that any attacks on hidan are returned to the "blood owners body." he also made a battle plan which was brilliant. how many other weaknesses did he find? he wasnt genius enough to find them on time. Because hidan killed asuma. Itachi definitely is smarter than shika is. I dont see how the hell people are even arguing about htis
itachi got what he wanted out of that battle so he did win,
look at it this way, here's a sick and dying man who is waiting to fight his brother, whom techniques he does not know, all the while having it in his head to fight him in a battle, seal oro!! and then putting amaterasu in his eye to use against madara!!
here's sasuke, full of energy, thinking he has a plan, have every intentions on killing itachi, first planning on breaking tsukyomi, then waiting for him to use amaterasu so he can do kirin. only to find out later when madara said "itachi planned that entire battle"
and we saw itachi's quick analysis when fighting nagato, and it seems like the way you're looking at this is that itachi is just unfortunate to not have had an opponent that outclasses him so he could show his strategic battle planning.