Sasuke is Most Strong Ninja In Naruto..

[Ai Senju]

Okay, he Beat Orochimaru ( The Guy who was about To destroy konoha)

He Beat Deidara ( who Beat Gaara and Most Sand Ninjas)

He Have Jutsu Cannot dodge " Kirn" Only Yata Mirror Could Block It if Itachi wasn't Have yata Mirror he woyld Turn into Pieces

16 Years Old and Met/Fight Great People ( Orochimaru ,Diedara,Itachi,Bee,5 Kages )

the strongest you say...hmm...maybe in your dreams or something.
he beat Orochimaru, the half dead guy at the time.
he "beat" Deidara: Deidara blew himself up. (side note-if they weren't fighting over Suna, I wonder how would Gaara possibly have lost but oh well)
he can use Kirin:WOW a strong jutsu! yey, we have never seen a strong jutsu before! please. Kirin is great but not unstoppable.
at 16 he met all of them because:
1.Oro-he was a powerful criminal and Sasuke being a little gay criminal found himself a mentor.
Deidara-on his way to find Itachi, guilty of being Itachi's brother and "killing" Oro,which are the reasons Deidara wanted to fight him.
Itachi-his brother, at first enemy bla bla...obvious.
Bee-again doing criminal work, for other criminals.
5 Kages-he's an idiot who got his ass saved by Madara at the last moment.
The End.

 

[Last Arcanum]

Hm.
Deidara killed himself and would have kill Sasuke if Madara didn't help him.

Kages did a good job beating him up...once again saved by Madara or Oonoki would have killed him.

Come again? What exactly did Madara do to aid to Sasuke in that fight?
If you meant Manda then that isn't a very strong argument as Manda is a summoning and therefore part of a shinobi's many assets.

I wasn't aware that a five on one was a fair fight, it isn't were I come from. Lets see how many characters could hold up against five kage-level opponents w/ subordinates and not die / require assistance in the long run -- I could tell you right now there wouldn't be many people on that list.

IMO Sasuke is a strong character, that goes without saying but he's defiantly not the strongest in the series.

 

[-Kisame-]

No you mean:

Guy>Kisame>Bee>sasuke>naruto>kakashi=Guy right?

NO i mean itachi>kisame>bee>sasuke>naruto>kakashi>guy>lee. THATS what i mean (not itachi fanboy by any means, just the first person i thought of that Kisame was willing to admit was greater than himself)

 

[The Thinker]

yea orochimaru was sick so nope lol

And for Deidara he used Manda as a shield so if he didnt have him he'd be dead lol

And bee killed sasuke like 5 times and he was saved by karin lol so there's alot of help in his fights lol

Lmfao Agreed!!!xd

 

[MaNnY17]

I told myself I wouldn't even bother clicking on threads like these but ah well...

1. Oro was literally disabled.
2. Deidara killed himself.
3. He nearly got killed by Bee twice.
4. Raikage could have killed him also.
5. He isn't the strongest, so get off of his lap.

And thats a wrap.

thank god you said this +rep

 

[coolcomfort]

black white... shut the **** up and go play on the mainstreet! shity kid

 

[lanakau888]

NO i mean itachi>kisame>bee>sasuke>naruto>kakashi>guy>lee. THATS what i mean (not itachi fanboy by any means, just the first person i thought of that Kisame was willing to admit was greater than himself)

But Guy beat kisame....

 

[Uchicha Macho]

i predict sasuke gonna have an amagedon skill which will tranform him to a halve demon like ichigo or uirroqura (wrong spelling idc) and use some dark jutsu pwn alot of people

 

[MaNnY17]

Well you say sasuke is the strongest cause he has the EMS don't you?.Well Why the f*ck won't tobi be the strongest since he has the f*cking rinnegan, the EMS and the paths. Plus if sasuke was the strongest why would he need to fight for tobi rather than fight tobi huh? So Please kind of read the manga......ah that was polite.

i agree with you on that man

 

[mookyuzamaki]

sasuke is a beast and he has a lot of haters but he isnt the strongest if he was the show would be called sasuke and plus i am now a sasuke fan everyone hates on him and idk now i can relate to him cuz he is real and doesnt bullshit like naruto plus he is bad ass and keeps his hoes in check jk but yeah sasuke is a beast saying he is the best is a lil too much but he is deff naruto rivals o he is good at third or second place

 

[HakkeKoshu]

Sasuke fanboy at his finest + Gramr lefel fo universyti profesor.

 

[Hipster Madara]

i totally agree

 

[MaNnY17]

the strongest you say...hmm...maybe in your dreams or something.
he beat Orochimaru, the half dead guy at the time.
he "beat" Deidara: Deidara blew himself up. (side note-if they weren't fighting over Suna, I wonder how would Gaara possibly have lost but oh well)
he can use Kirin:WOW a strong jutsu! yey, we have never seen a strong jutsu before! please. Kirin is great but not unstoppable.
at 16 he met all of them because:
1.Oro-he was a powerful criminal and Sasuke being a little gay criminal found himself a mentor.
Deidara-on his way to find Itachi, guilty of being Itachi's brother and "killing" Oro,which are the reasons Deidara wanted to fight him.
Itachi-his brother, at first enemy bla bla...obvious.
Bee-again doing criminal work, for other criminals.
5 Kages-he's an idiot who got his ass saved by Madara at the last moment.
The End.

nuff said

 

[Protozoid]

So let me get your stance on this issue: if orochimaru's intention wasn't to absorb sasuke but to kill him, you think that the battle would still have ended up with orochimaru trying to take over sasuke via genjutsu?

The logic that I use goes both ways, and has been used for other characters as well. Orochimaru's intention was not to kill sasuke, but to absorb him. Itachi's intention was not to kill sasuke, but push sasuke to his absolute limits. Pain's intention was not to kill naruto, but to capture him.

In all of these fights the so called winner is getting a handicap because of the intention of their opponent, which causes the said winner to do better in battle since the opponent is unwilling to use their full strength because of said reasons.

That's not my stance in this issue. My current stance is/was when you posted your first reply what I said was directed to the portion when you said "it was a battle of genjutsu, which Sasuke has natural ability in". Which was suggesting that if Sasuke didn't have the natural ability he does at genjutsu and the intention of Orochimaru was in fact to absorb him, he would have either lost or been at a disadvantage. Not that if his intentions were elsewhere what the outcomes could be. Yeah, I know you corrected yourself during your last post but that was almost entirely different from what you wrote. But I don't think you have the right to infer that if Sasuke didn't have kekkei genkai he would have been on a whole different boat because of the following reasons: (1): Sasuke's entity is oriented around his bloodline. We don't know what the outcomes would look like if Sasuke didn't have the power of the Uchiha. Chances are he probably wouldn't even be Sasuke Uchiha. (2): Being quick to assume isn't very wise. Especially in a heated debate forum like this.

Now my logic in this situation in case I'm not making myself very clear:

We don't have the right to implicate that one would be facing a more elevated conflict if they didn't have certain abilities and/or advantages. Reason being is that there's usually vague detail that supports this implication when the implication is being made. That is what went on here. You firstly went on about how Sasuke possibly wouldn't have beat Orochimaru if he didn't have the sharingan which is the natural abilities bestowed on him by the Uchiha clan or otherwise the author of Naruto (the series, not the character). We can't just jump the gun and say that Sasuke would be useless if he didn't have the sharingan because if he didn't the case could be completely different.

In a nutshell: We need to go off assumptions less and start basing things on components more concrete. Not saying that we need to stop assuming completely. But at least less. But at least where it's due (in this case now).

I know you edited your post and made yourself more clear and all but you have to realize that it's almost completely different from what you posted originally (and yeah, I know you apologized for it [accepted]) and that my conflict isn't with that summary, but was rather with what you posted originally.

Also, sorry that it took me so long to post this. My Internet connection got knocked offline a few times in the process.

@Thread: Why is it that people make threads like this. Everyone has their own opinions and because of so, there will always be differences in what we all think. In my opinion - Sasuke is an alright character. He's also pretty strong. But one guy could think he's the strongest and give you reasons as to why he is and to other guy could beg to differ and give you reasons why he isn't. It's an infinite-looping process and I honestly think we need to cut down on threads so illogical like these.

 

[MaNnY17]

Okay, he Beat Orochimaru ( The Guy who was about To destroy konoha)

He Beat Deidara ( who Beat Gaara and Most Sand Ninjas)

He Have Jutsu Cannot dodge " Kirn" Only Yata Mirror Could Block It if Itachi wasn't Have yata Mirror he woyld Turn into Pieces

16 Years Old and Met/Fight Great People ( Orochimaru ,Diedara,Itachi,Bee,5 Kages )

oro was sick on a death bed
deidara committed suicide
wow strong jutsu...everyone has a strong jutsu
hes strong but not the strongest
youre just being a troll kid

 

[MaNnY17]

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LOL so funny +rep

 

[Redd]

oro was sick on a death bed

It wasn't a physical fight

deidara committed suicide

After he accepted the fact he lost.

wow strong jutsu...everyone has a strong jutsu
hes strong but not the strongest

Without a doubt he ties with Naruto with a slight edge to Sasuke.

youre just being a troll kid

Lawl

 

[HakkeKoshu]

Oh yeah,I've seen the Sasuke fanboy mention how Nagato could escape Amaterasu...
Well,he isn't really keeping up with the manga is he? :3 Nagato used Shinra Tensei on himself to blast Amaterasu away.

 

[ackeem1992]

Okay, he Beat Orochimaru ( The Guy who was about To destroy konoha)

He Beat Deidara ( who Beat Gaara and Most Sand Ninjas)

He Have Jutsu Cannot dodge " Kirn" Only Yata Mirror Could Block It if Itachi wasn't Have yata Mirror he woyld Turn into Pieces

16 Years Old and Met/Fight Great People ( Orochimaru ,Diedara,Itachi,Bee,5 Kages )

fanboy extremist

 

[lanakau888]

That's not my stance in this issue. My current stance is/was when you posted your first reply what I said was directed to the portion when you said "it was a battle of genjutsu, which Sasuke has natural ability in". Which was suggesting that if Sasuke didn't have the natural ability he does at genjutsu and the intention of Orochimaru was in fact to absorb him, he would have either lost or been at a disadvantage. Not that if his intentions were elsewhere what the outcomes could be. Yeah, I know you corrected yourself during your last post but that was almost entirely different from what you wrote. But I don't think you have the right to infer that if Sasuke didn't have kekkei genkai he would have been on a whole different boat because of the following reasons: (1): Sasuke's entity is oriented around his bloodline. We don't know what the outcomes would look like if Sasuke didn't have the power of the Uchiha. Chances are he probably wouldn't even be Sasuke Uchiha. (2): Being quick to assume isn't very wise. Especially in a heated debate forum like this.

Now my logic in this situation in case I'm not making myself very clear:

We don't have the right to implicate that one would be facing a more elevated conflict if they didn't have certain abilities and/or advantages. Reason being is that there's usually vague detail that supports this implication when the implication is being made. That is what went on here. You firstly went on about how Sasuke possibly wouldn't have beat Orochimaru if he didn't have the sharingan which is the natural abilities bestowed on him by the Uchiha clan or otherwise the author of Naruto (the series, not the character). We can't just jump the gun and say that Sasuke would be useless if he didn't have the sharingan because if he didn't the case could be completely different.

In a nutshell: We need to go off assumptions less and start basing things on components more concrete. Not saying that we need to stop assuming completely. But at least less. But at least where it's due (in this case now).

I know you edited your post and made yourself more clear and all but you have to realize that it's almost completely different from what you posted originally (and yeah, I know you apologized for it [accepted]) and that my conflict isn't with that summary, but was rather with what you posted originally.

Also, sorry that it took me so long to post this. My Internet connection got knocked offline a few times in the process.

@Thread: Why is it that people make threads like this. Everyone has their own opinions and because of so, there will always be differences in what we all think. In my opinion - Sasuke is an alright character. He's also pretty strong. But one guy could think he's the strongest and give you reasons as to why he is and to other guy could beg to differ and give you reasons why he isn't. It's an infinite-looping process and I honestly think we need to cut down on threads so illogical like these.

Cool man, if the only beef you had with me was with what I originally posted, then its all good.

I gotta say though, the reason why these threads are here is not really to argue that my opinion is absolute, but to give supporting evidence on your side to try to debunk the other side, and its true that there are many times where stalemates are reached and no one can prove anything, but when the arguments of both sides have been put into coherent lists for the undecided to read, it helps them to choose a side or help formulate their own opinions.