Naruto's Jutsu Finalle : Hiraishin

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he used his 2 shadow clones to hold of both 1st and 2nd hokage..and using this ability really needs to sacrifice your own life for it..all person who come infront of the shinigami will be tangled by its hair and will be soul ripped..1st and 2nd soul ripping was success but when its about time for orochimaru..orochimaru was able to intercept this by stabbing the back of the 3rd hokage..due to this it affectec the ripping and oro's arms is the only thing that has been rip

Supreme Spoiler, Im must congratulate you regarding your work, I have really seen to many sucky theories lately, but you have out done yourself! Great work and hope you have more of those coming!
Thank you very much..i appreciated it..:)
 
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no i dont thnk so becoz

when orochimaru fought third along with 1st n 2nd
3rd used kagebulshin n with the dead demon consuming seal he seal 1st n 2nd

he used his original body when sealing oro so he died after wards

so i thnk using kage bulshin for dead demon consuming seal does not kill the original person!!!!
wht do u thnk ????:naruto:
(That was, bcause the second, and the first hokages at the fight were not real, as orochimaru was, they had no souls, as the kagebushins of the
3-rd :) )


To SupremeSpoiler:
Woow, another Awesome theory of yours!

Yeah, could be!
 

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he used his 2 shadow clones to hold of both 1st and 2nd hokage..and using this ability really needs to sacrifice your own life for it..all person who come infront of the shinigami will be tangled by its hair and will be soul ripped..1st and 2nd soul ripping was success but when its about time for orochimaru..orochimaru was able to intercept this by stabbing the back of the 3rd hokage..due to this it affectec the ripping and oro's arms is the only thing that has been rip



Thank you very much..i appreciated it..:)
So I figured out what the Futton Rasengan is, its the primary stage before he actually does the Futton Rasen-Shiruken. But that's besdies the fact. I like ur theory and all, but dont u think Naruto should had picked up on that Madara was using a space time jutsu when Yamato's and Kakashi's team were fighting him right before the Itachi and Sauske fight was over. I mean supposely Jiraiya might have trained Naruto somewhat on "that" jutsu. So am sure Jiraiya told Naruto how it works. This being that "that" jutsu really is the space time traveling thing. So am saying since Jiraiya told him not to use "that" jutsu, wouldnt u think that JMan also told him how it worked, thus Naruto being able to figure out that Madara was using the space time jutsu. The only one that picked it up was Kakashi when he mentions something like, "could it be, space time jutsu like the 4th Hokage" that's not exactly the quote but he said something like that. So what do u think ???
 
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So I figured out what the Futton Rasengan is, its the primary stage before he actually does the Futton Rasen-Shiruken. But that's besdies the fact. I like ur theory and all, but dont u think Naruto should had picked up on that Madara was using a space time jutsu when Yamato's and Kakashi's team were fighting him right before the Itachi and Sauske fight was over. I mean supposely Jiraiya might have trained Naruto somewhat on "that" jutsu. So am sure Jiraiya told Naruto how it works. This being that "that" jutsu really is the space time traveling thing. So am saying since Jiraiya told him not to use "that" jutsu, wouldnt u think that JMan also told him how it worked, thus Naruto being able to figure out that Madara was using the space time jutsu. The only one that picked it up was Kakashi when he mentions something like, "could it be, space time jutsu like the 4th Hokage" that's not exactly the quote but he said something like that. So what do u think ???
as we have only seen in the manga..jiraiya never taught naruto of hiraishin..thats where im going to base at..remember that in my theory hiraishin requries a lot of chakra..remember when naruto summoned gamabunta..he was not using his chakra..he was using the kyuubis chakra..in part of hiraishin..i think naruto really needs to use more and more of the kyuubis chakra by the use of the seal explained in my theory..but the frog keeps insisting that just by twisting the seal a little..naruto has been taken by the demon fox..which means he cant control it..still further faqs are needed..XD
 

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as we have only seen in the manga..jiraiya never taught naruto of hiraishin..thats where im going to base at..remember that in my theory hiraishin requries a lot of chakra..remember when naruto summoned gamabunta..he was not using his chakra..he was using the kyuubis chakra..in part of hiraishin..i think naruto really needs to use more and more of the kyuubis chakra by the use of the seal explained in my theory..but the frog keeps insisting that just by twisting the seal a little..naruto has been taken by the demon fox..which means he cant control it..still further faqs are needed..XD
Yea, but u say that u think "that" jutsu might be the space time jutsu which u believe that he is working on at Toad Mountain right ??? or am I wrong ?? Meaning, "that" jutsu is also the one that Jiraiya warned Naruto about as well. Im just saying if the whole talk about "that" jutsu has been the same throughout the manga, then dont u think that Jiraiya might had explain to him how it works, if it is in fact the space time jutso. But maybe after Jiraiya figured out that he need more chakra drawn out from the Kyubbi they stopped thus warning Naruto not to use it. Im gonna read ur theory again, maybe i mis-read something. Im just saying maybe J Man somewhat explain to Naruto how it works but knowing that he needed more chakra to use then they stopped the training.
 
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Yea, but u say that u think "that" jutsu might be the space time jutsu which u believe that he is working on at Toad Mountain right ??? or am I wrong ?? Meaning, "that" jutsu is also the one that Jiraiya warned Naruto about as well. Im just saying if the whole talk about "that" jutsu has been the same throughout the manga, then dont u think that Jiraiya might had explain to him how it works, if it is in fact the space time jutso. But maybe after Jiraiya figured out that he need more chakra drawn out from the Kyubbi they stopped thus warning Naruto not to use it. Im gonna read ur theory again, maybe i mis-read something. Im just saying maybe J Man somewhat explain to Naruto how it works but knowing that he needed more chakra to use then they stopped the training.
Yeah..Froggy should have stop naruto on learning this jutsu..but naruto has completed sage mode perfectly..maybe its more applicable now for him to learn that jutsu now that he has 3 chakras..His Chakra , Kyuubis Chakra , Nature Chakra ( Sage Mode )

If People thinks that hey jiraiya manages to use sage mode why doesn't he uses yondaime hiraishin..Jiraiya never manages to perfect sage mode..thats why he still looks like a frog when doing it
 

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This is just a theory..:D

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Base on that image..there is a jutsu that is very mysterious that was intended to be learned by naruto.

I believe "That Jutsu" that naruto was intended to complete is minato's great space-time technique called Hiraishin. Thats right.. in other words Naruto is going to complete that space-time jutsu (Hiraishin). I'm assuming this, because the only Jutsu's we've witnessed so far throughtout in Minato's character is Rasengan, and Hiraishin

Minato known Techniques

Rasengan (incomplete) --> Fyuuton Rasengan (complete) --> FRS(naruto's technique)
What we know is that the Rasengan was an incomplete technique because Minato *intended to put his own chakra* -assuming that minato's chakra is wind

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As stated before, I predicted that Hiraishin was an incomplete technique. I'm assuming this because Rasengan was an incomplete technique. (In this part i will be assuming only)

I bet everyone thought Rasengan was a complete jutsu but in the eyes of minato it wasn't a complete technique. Dont get me wrong, Rasengan was always a "kick-ass" jutsu when Kishimoto first introduced us that technique. The samething can be applied to Hiraishin. Hiraishin is the reason why Minato got his nickname *The Yellow Flash*. In our eyes we can assume that Hiraishin seems to be a well-completed technique. But was it really a complete technique in the eyes of Minato?

Alright lets stop there.

What do you guys think of *That* Jutsu that naruto is suppose to complete?

If the fourth couldn't complete it, it has to be(or) one of the strongest technique, right??

Now Ive been thinking and exploring the techniques available in Naruto.. and what really pondered my mind is the *scariness of space-time techniques*. The ability just to pop out of no where and kill them is simply mind boggling in one's view. Who cares if you have *final blow* jutsu. If you can appear behind a ninja's back without them detecting, and kill them instantly, then my friend, you are indeed the top dog ninja.

With that gift and kind of ability..you really will be feared..just like in this kakashi gaiden part

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Comparing Minato's and Madara's Space-time techniques.
We know both of their techniques have the same principle, but Minato's technique was limited due to the fact he needs kuchiyose tags/seals to instantly teleport to one location.

This Part Is The Best

-OK, so we know that Hiraishin is one of a kuchiyose-based or space-time technique, Right?

-We know that summoning no-jutsu techniques is also one of a kuchiyose or space-time technique right? dont agree? here's the proof

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-We also know that performing a high class summoning no-jutsu (like summoning the BIG FROG BOSS) requires a high level of chakra.
Proof: When Naruto summoned the big frog boss, he had to use the kyuubi's chakra.

If Hiraishin is a high level space-time technique, then to perform this technique, we can conclude that it requires amount of chakra, correct? (In naruto's case he will need the Kyuubi's chakra Or Nature's Chakra A.K.A Sage Mode )

Why does Minato uses tags to use Hiraishin? Why dont we see him performing the hand seals right on the spot? Its because(theory), hiraishin requires a lot of chakra to allow oneself to be instantly teleported to one area?

So i'm predicting that minato performed Hiraishin and reserved its power in tags. Hence the reason why Minato uses tags to make things more efficient to use in combat.

Now if someone had unlimited chakra..like the kyuubi for example. there is no need to use tags, right? You can be in many locations simultaneously.

( Take Note That In The Part Of Tobi When He Was Fighting Naruto And Company..He Claims That His Power Has Something To Do With His Chakra..Am I Right? )

Now in chapter 370. We know that to perform *that* jutsu you will need to use the Kyuubi's chakra. Indicating... that technique requires a lot of chakra

From that chapter we also know that Jiraiya said that Minato wanted Naruto to complete his technique.

Now here is the question. What other techniques does Minato have that we know so far? We know two, and that is Rasengan, and Hiraishin.

If you think about it... all of these events "could" point to one thing, and that is Hiraishin.

And the last thing i had in mind.."Like Father , Like Son"

Enjoy!
Pretty much when JMan took Naruto to train for 2 years and they came back. Then Naruto went to Save Gaara and before they leave JMan warns him not to use "that" jutsu, isn't that the same as "that" jutsu that Naruto is working on right now. So Im saying, dont u think JMan explain to him how the Jutsu works, because im sure Naruto isnt brillant enough to come up with something like that on his own. Bringing me back to my first point which is shouldnt Naruto had noticed that Madara was using space time jutsu.
 
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Pretty much when JMan took Naruto to train for 2 years and they came back. Then Naruto went to Save Gaara and before they leave JMan warns him not to use "that" jutsu, isn't that the same as "that" jutsu that Naruto is working on right now. So Im saying, dont u think JMan explain to him how the Jutsu works, because im sure Naruto isnt brillant enough to come up with something like that on his own. Bringing me back to my first point which is shouldnt Naruto had noticed that Madara was using space time jutsu.
are you saying this part..

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maybe that jutsu is to use the portion of the energy of the kyuubis..thats why jiraiya said naruto is always bad when being hot headed..Naruto becomes enraged at that point. and uses kyuubi but the kyuubi was going to take over him but kakashi manages to suprreses it with the seal that jiraiya gave. anyway i dont really know if thats the jutsu or thats the jutsu he is practicing..were going to find it in the upcoming mangas
 

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are you saying this part..

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maybe that jutsu is to use the portion of the energy of the kyuubis..thats why jiraiya said naruto is always bad when being hot headed..Naruto becomes enraged at that point. and uses kyuubi but the kyuubi was going to take over him but kakashi manages to suprreses it with the seal that jiraiya gave. anyway i dont really know if thats the jutsu or thats the jutsu he is practicing..were going to find it in the upcoming mangas
Yea that's what I was talking about. But I agree with you, I also thought Jiraiya meant dont use that jutsu meaning dont use the Kyubbi, but then when the 2nd or 3d to the last manga came out and Naruto said "that" jutsu, people were referring back to when J Man told Naruto that and also referring back to when JMan was telling the frog that had the key about "that" jutsu. Anyways im tired of this topic LOL But great theory.
 

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Sorry if this was stated, but briefly it seems less likely to me it's the 4th's space-time jutsu and more likely that it's to complete the Death God summon without sacrificing one's own life/soul in the process.
 
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Sorry if this was stated, but briefly it seems less likely to me it's the 4th's space-time jutsu and more likely that it's to complete the Death God summon without sacrificing one's own life/soul in the process.
you cannot use the death god summon without sacrificing someone..remember your dealing with the shinigami..thats why its a kinjutsu..its forbidden.
 

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<div class="bbWrapper">nice theory It looks like kishi is givning naruto all this power( the kyuubi, senjustu and itachi's power) , it really would suck if naruto gets too powerful. The story is always better when the hero is weake r than the villlain and has to fight is way to victory. If kishi gives him all this power he has also to give some weakness to balcne it out. Looks like kishi is heading in this direction - naruto with all his new powers beats the villains, brings sasuke back and becomes hokage. Thats the worst ending possible, a really greta ending would be naruto sacrificing himself againsty an unbeatable opponent just like his dad.</div>
 
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nice theory It looks like kishi is givning naruto all this power( the kyuubi, senjustu and itachi's power) , it really would suck if naruto gets too powerful. The story is always better when the hero is weake r than the villlain and has to fight is way to victory. If kishi gives him all this power he has also to give some weakness to balcne it out. Looks like kishi is heading in this direction - naruto with all his new powers beats the villains, brings sasuke back and becomes hokage. Thats the worst ending possible, a really greta ending would be naruto sacrificing himself againsty an unbeatable opponent just like his dad.
yeah i really think naruto will become very powerful..but for me i really think the outcome of this story is that..the main villain that hey will fight is none other than kabuto ( Orochimaru )..im really looking forward to this
 

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(That was, bcause the second, and the first hokages at the fight were not real, as orochimaru was, they had no souls, as the kagebushins of the
3-rd

this kind of bothered me..
the souls of shodaime and nidaime were real for sure but the bodies ain't..
remember, oro needs to sacrifice real humans for edo tensei, and he sacrificed 2 of his own people to summon shodaime and nidaime... if they wouldn't have souls they couldnt be summoned and also wouldn't recognize sandaime..
and besides, after the 3rd took out their souls we could see the bodies of them :) it where 2 of orochimaru's own people a.k.a. dead corpses.
 
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this kind of bothered me..
the souls of shodaime and nidaime were real for sure but the bodies ain't..
remember, oro needs to sacrifice real humans for edo tensei, and he sacrificed 2 of his own people to summon shodaime and nidaime... if they wouldn't have souls they couldnt be summoned and also wouldn't recognize sandaime..
and besides, after the 3rd took out their souls we could see the bodies of them :) it where 2 of orochimaru's own people a.k.a. dead corpses.
Yeah i agree with you in that..resurrection to impure world is to resurrect the dead using sacrifices..and take note that when resurrected the person is able to remember all the things he have done in the past..but as we see in that part orochimaru removed the informations that they had..you can see it like he was pulling something of their heads..and yes that body did had souls but its blank..
 

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actually, he put kunai's in their head.. making their mind go all blank and make them killing machines..
but even without it, the person who summons someone or something MUST obey their summoner ( the talk between shodaime, nidaime and sandaime proves it )
but anyways, the bodies are real shodaime and nidaime, so are the souls.. but they are summoned and oro put the kunai in their head to make them kind of emotionless killing machines :)
 
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