Itachi vs Pain

Itachi vs Nagato

  • Itachi

    Votes: 236 48.2%
  • Pain

    Votes: 236 48.2%
  • Draw

    Votes: 57 11.6%

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kadowade

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Ok, I agreed that destraction an attack brings doesnt end the ight. but If itachi and Pain are in the Chuninarena, thirty feet from each other and Pain uses the giant form of shinraa tensei, Itachi is digged under tons of damaged houses and earth, blown away. Maybe alive maybe dead. Even using Susanoo wont help cause susanoo just block direct hits. If youre blown away by that godtechnique (just the technique is godlike, not the user. Shinraa tensei blows anything exept kyuubi or maybe other tailed beasts away, without any hope of the victims to resist.

You got that much speed, that the landings on the ground are very dangerous. susanoo does not protect from hard hits that smack you away.
The weakness is that you are just protected for so long, you still have your feet on the floor.
Lol Dude Naruto used Shadow CLones to counter Shinra Tensei.

Itachi's Susano'o would of course keep him protected from Pain's ultimate Shinra Tensei It may blow him back some. Besides if Nagato uses his Ultimate Shinra tensei that he used to destroy Konoha with, HE will be powerless afterwards, and would be put in a position that he can easily be killed in. Or sealed.
 

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Ok, I agreed that destraction an attack brings doesnt end the ight. but If itachi and Pain are in the Chuninarena, thirty feet from each other and Pain uses the giant form of shinraa tensei, Itachi is digged under tons of damaged houses and earth, blown away. Maybe alive maybe dead. Even using Susanoo wont help cause susanoo just block direct hits. If youre blown away by that godtechnique (just the technique is godlike, not the user. Shinraa tensei blows anything exept kyuubi or maybe other tailed beasts away, without any hope of the victims to resist.

You got that much speed, that the landings on the ground are very dangerous. susanoo does not protect from hard hits that smack you away.
The weakness is that you are just protected for so long, you still have your feet on the floor.
-Kabuto adding Itachi to his Capture list




what other things?
I dont understand you. Where could they teleport to if Animal was among them?
dude isn't that what u were talking about with reverse summoning and stuff that the animal path can do or did i misunderstand something.- turson


if its close combat and not much space yea its nagato but itachi can still use genjutsu but if are not consdering that yea ur right.- divine illusion

twerdos i said i understand the list thing and what u said about it never argued there so u did not need a link but i said where did madara exactly say like pain was stronger than him.
 
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dude isn't that what u were talking about with reverse summoning and stuff that the animal path can do or did i misunderstand something.
Yes, Animal path can use summoning and form paths into right formation to protect them all from Amaterasu with using Prethas absorption jutsu or panda summon to hide paths from Itachis eyesight - thats what I meant.
 

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itachi can start off with ms not necessarily have to go change and the eye contact pretty much does it no path can rally stop or really come in the way that fast and block genjutsu which is pretty much instant. ANd CT by pain is not fast enough. there are actually ways both can win but it depends on the info they have on each other and a lot of other variables. Like if itachi had no idea about apin he would almost certainly lose especially if he fought him like he did against jiraya like where he hid others and came out in the end but the knowledge he has currentlly is sufficient or if head full knowledge i say itachi can more or less take it. and also if u notice it was only after jiraya released the genjutsu did the other paths actually come so u never kno one genjutsu might get them all since they share the same vision.
Then the thread must specify that Itachi starts off with MS or else Deva wud just close his eyes while Itachi's eyes change shape, and then pretha wud come in the way, yes he can come quickly, it only takes a sec if not less for even me to come in the way of someone 5 feet away from me, so ninja can do it easily. Then Pain can cast CT and no its not linked vision becuz J-man never released the genjutsu he jus killed them instantly then Pain killed him, same wud happen with Itachi. He wud instantly kill the path in front of him but then the other paths wud attack him and then the CT wud end it.

Anything else??!
 

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Yes, Animal path can use summoning and form paths into right formation to protect them all from Amaterasu with using Prethat absorption jutsu or panda summon to hide paths from Itachis eyesight - thats what I meant.
don't she can do it really fast especially considering she could not even dodge rasen-shuriken fast enough and had to be pushed out of the way and it requires hand signals which is enough time for itachi's amaterasu to hit any of them actually.
 

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Yes, Animal path can use summoning and form paths into right formation to protect them all from Amaterasu with using Prethas absorption jutsu or panda summon to hide paths from Itachis eyesight - thats what I meant.
Lmao Amaterasu is too fast for him. Theres no point in summoning pands to protect him, Because all Itachi has to do is see him. Then AMaterasu is gonna appear straight on pain. Pain dosent have lightning armor or speed, to stimulate his senses and increase speed like Raikage has.

Amaterasu dosent travel. It appears onto the target
 

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Then the thread must specify that Itachi starts off with MS or else Deva wud just close his eyes while Itachi's eyes change shape, and then pretha wud come in the way, yes he can come quickly, it only takes a sec if not less for even me to come in the way of someone 5 feet away from me, so ninja can do it easily. Then Pain can cast CT and no its not linked vision becuz J-man never released the genjutsu he jus killed them instantly then Pain killed him, same wud happen with Itachi. He wud instantly kill the path in front of him but then the other paths wud attack him and then the CT wud end it.

Anything else??!
How is Pain gonna fight with their eyes closed?

And I already explaned why He can't use Chibaku Tensei while his other paths are present.

And Itachi would not be attacked from behind like Jiraiya did. Itachi's Sharingan is enough to aide in enemy movements, so it would help predict pain movements.
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Then the thread must specify that Itachi starts off with MS or else Deva wud just close his eyes while Itachi's eyes change shape, and then pretha wud come in the way, yes he can come quickly, it only takes a sec if not less for even me to come in the way of someone 5 feet away from me, so ninja can do it easily. Then Pain can cast CT and no its not linked vision becuz J-man never released the genjutsu he jus killed them instantly then Pain killed him, same wud happen with Itachi. He wud instantly kill the path in front of him but then the other paths wud attack him and then the CT wud end it.

Anything else??!
he did realese the genjutsu if u remember look

killed them and then asura came but not during the the time when it was activated


u also forget itachi can use clones to trick him in genjutsu and if u say pain starts off the fight with his eyes closed then yea he can't get him in it but if not the tech is instantaneous(kakashi says) and can get deva. itachi has eye based genjutsu if they share vision why can't mulple ppl get affected there is no solid evidence for it or against it.
 
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Theres no proof Pain knows about Tsukiyomi. He may know about Amaterasu.
How will he know about Tsukiyomi, wouldnt he have to experience it himself.

Besides Pain can't use Chibaku Tensei, while using all 6 paths. That why he took away all paths except for Deva Path, to use Chibaku tensei. PLus he has to be extremely close to the "real" Nagato. ALl his chakra and focus is directed toward deva path when he uses Chibaku tensei ,he even told Konan, "hush i have to focus" (something like that). And theres no way Nagato can focus, while controlling all 6 paths PLus his paths would be destroyed if he uses Chibaku tensei while their present. He uses all his chakra for DEva path so that it can peform his strongest move, Chibaku tensei
Sorry but this post did not make sense. First of all almost everyone knows about the sharingan's genjutsu and specially the leader of Akatsuki wud. Even Kakashi knew about it, also he doesn't have to be that close and he can do it with other paths, what makes u say he cant? He only told Konan to shut up because she was annoying him and us lol. SO yes CT wud work and Itachi wud die.

yea lol this isnever gonna end and thats partly due me cos i find it interesting for some odd reason. this is going to reach 3000 soon just watch.
This thread is over in 22 more days sadly. :(
 

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don't she can do it really fast
Summoning is instant, so Animal path would have more than enough time.
Lmao Amaterasu is too fast for him
Amaterasu appears instantly, but executing this technique (molding chakra in the eye) takes some time, longer than performing summoning, and Pain can sense when Itachi will be using it. ->
Theres no point in summoning pands to protect him
Panda will hide them from Itachis eyesight, therefore it will protect paths from Amaterasu.
Amaterasu dosent travel. It appears onto the target
But Itachi need to be able to see said target, he wont be able to use Amaterasu on paths if they will be hidden.
 

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Sorry but this post did not make sense. First of all almost everyone knows about the sharingan's genjutsu and specially the leader of Akatsuki wud. Even Kakashi knew about it, also he doesn't have to be that close and he can do it with other paths, what makes u say he cant? He only told Konan to shut up because she was annoying him and us lol. SO yes CT wud work and Itachi wud die.



This thread is over in 22 more days sadly. :(
sorry but the likelihood of pain actually getting enough time and chakra to use CT is unlikely plus itachi's tsukiyomi more or less instant and unless pain starts thefightoff blindfolded xd or closing his eyes he is not getting away from it and itachi also has other genjutsu that don't use eyesight and can paralyze ppl like he did against oro. so no it not likely itachi would die to CT.
 

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Sorry but this post did not make sense. First of all almost everyone knows about the sharingan's genjutsu and specially the leader of Akatsuki wud. Even Kakashi knew about it, also he doesn't have to be that close and he can do it with other paths, what makes u say he cant? He only told Konan to shut up because she was annoying him and us lol. SO yes CT wud work and Itachi wud die.
Why do you think he only used Deva path. Wouldnt it be smart to use his other paths a distractions for the Kyuubi, but he didn't,cuz he cant.

If he uses Chibaku Tensei, his other paths would be destroyed anyway.

Plus CT takes TOO long. Nagato would be sealed by then. And since pain has to be extremely close, that would put Nagato in danger. And can't the Sharingan see Chakra, right, so it shouldn't be hard finding Nagato. Especially when Deva path is inches away from him
 

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Summoning is instant, so Animal path would have more than enough time.

Amaterasu appears instantly, but executing this technique (molding chakra in the eye) takes some time, longer than performing summoning, and Pain can sense when Itachi will be using it. ->

Panda will hide them from Itachis eyesight, therefore it will protect paths from Amaterasu.
handseals are needed and she does not have time if she did then she would not have died or would have avoided a death of a path. stop exagerrating powers please and preta can't be in multiple spots at once and absorb amaterasu since it can get multiple paths at once. she would be caught in amaterasu b4 she can do any of the seals and preta can't absorb all the amaterasu at once for reasons stated above. And also dust/ smoke can block their visons which is enough for him to also put amaterasu and he an use his explosive clones to easily pull that off but can get them anyway.
 
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Why do you think he only used Deva path. Wouldnt it be smart to use his other paths a distractions for the Kyuubi, but he didn't,cuz he cant.

If he uses Chibaku Tensei, his other paths would be destroyed anyway.

Plus CT takes TOO long. Nagato would be sealed by then. And since pain has to be extremely close, that would put Nagato in danger. And can't the Sharingan see Chakra, right, so it shouldn't be hard finding Nagato. Especially when Deva path is inches away from him
deva was not inches away from him but i get ur point
 
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