Kyubi Mode Naruto vs Itachi ( Healthy)

Kyubi Mode Naruto vs Itachi ( Healthy)

  • KM Naruto

    Votes: 24 46.2%
  • Itachi (Healthy)

    Votes: 25 48.1%
  • Draw both die but fight an amazing fight.

    Votes: 3 5.8%

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Why do people keep on saying that naruto would just rush in? If he has his current amount of knowledge on itachi, then he will know itachi's arsenal. KM naruto is too fast for amaterasu, knows about tsukiyomi, and has shown that he is very intelligent in battle. And since the kakuzu fight, naruto can use shadow clones to gain knowledge on his opponents, before he directly engages them. With kage-level shadow clones, KM naruto's clones are enough to handle a healthy itachi.
Itachi has caught NAruto in Genjutsu's.

Naruto was already prepared for Itachi's Genjutsu, and even had knowlegde about Itachi powers yet HE STILL couldn't avoid Itachi's Genjutsu



Plus ITachi also has Clones, that he can even detonate. NAruto isn't the only person good with clones
 

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lol people keep saying Tbb gonna destroy Susano'o. itachi dosent need Susano'o for a TBB. All he has to do is side-step it, or jump out of range, or disperse into crows and fly away. A Tailed-beast bomb takes TOO long to launch. While Naruto is charging it up, he can easily be Amaterasu'ed Or Sealed.
LMAO sidestep a tailed beast bomb!!!!!? are you kidding me!!!!? A tailed beast bomb that can level a good part of konoha is going to get sidestepped!!!? Jumping out of range is laughable too. And for a guy who's avatar and sig is itachi, you sure have quite the misconseption about his abilities. Itachi cannot disperse into crows, its only when someone is caught in his genjutsu that the illusion itachi disperses into crows. Naruto doesn't need the TBB to beat itachi. Just multiple rasenshurikens which can be performed by his clones.

But i think Itachi is too smart for Naruto. I think he can easily outsmart someone like NAruto in battle with little effort. But Tsukiyomi can be used on Naruto even in cloak mode. Sasuke proved this with Bee. But since Itachi's Tsukiyomi is only 1 second in reality, The Fox would'nt have time to release Naruto unless he can notice that Naruto's in Tsukiyomi, and give him chakra, in less than a second which is nearly impossible. Before the Fox even blinks, NAruto would've died due to Tsukiyomi.
Current naruto is very smart in battle. He has full knowledge about itachi's mangekyou abilities, and itachi will be wasting his chakra trying to tsukuyomi a kage-level naruto shadow clone, one of the 15 that are all throwing guided rasenshuriken's at him. Once naruto makes shadow clones, itachi doesn't have a chance.
 

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Itachi has caught NAruto in Genjutsu's.

Naruto was already prepared for Itachi's Genjutsu, and even had knowlegde about Itachi powers yet HE STILL couldn't avoid Itachi's Genjutsu



Plus ITachi also has Clones, that he can even detonate. NAruto isn't the only person good with clones
So why didn't itachi catch current naruto in genjutsu in their little battle before KA.

Itachi's clones are not even comparable to naruto's kage-level clones.
 

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LMAO sidestep a tailed beast bomb!!!!!? are you kidding me!!!!? A tailed beast bomb that can level a good part of konoha is going to get sidestepped!!!? Jumping out of range is laughable too. And for a guy who's avatar and sig is itachi, you sure have quite the misconseption about his abilities. Itachi cannot disperse into crows, its only when someone is caught in his genjutsu that the illusion itachi disperses into crows. Naruto doesn't need the TBB to beat itachi. Just multiple rasenshurikens which can be performed by his clones.
He can just do this to Naruto, this is what i meant by dispersing into crows.
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Current naruto is very smart in battle. He has full knowledge about itachi's mangekyou abilities, and itachi will be wasting his chakra trying to tsukuyomi a kage-level naruto shadow clone, one of the 15 that are all throwing guided rasenshuriken's at him. Once naruto makes shadow clones, itachi doesn't have a chance.
Having knowledge about Itachi's abilites will do you little good, unless you have the perfect counter technique for those techniques. Itachi dosent just Amaterasu outta no where. He uses clones and diversions to ensure an hit. Besides like i said before Tsukiyomi is enough to immobilize or kill Naruto.
 

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So why didn't itachi catch current naruto in genjutsu in their little battle before KA.

Itachi's clones are not even comparable to naruto's kage-level clones.
Because Kabuto was controlling ITachi. Kabuto dosent have the same battle-strategies as Itachi. Itachi fights is own way. IF kabuto was smart he would've been used Genjutsu. Kabuto only used Nagato efficently.

I know ITachi's clones arent comparible, but he can use them as protection like instead if getting hit with a rasenshuriken, he could use clones to get hit instead. So Naruto would be wasting chakra, attacking Clones. Plus He has Susano'o, and we dont know if a rasenshuriken can destroy Itachi's Susano'o, Or the Yata mirror.
 

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lol people keep saying Tbb gonna destroy Susano'o. itachi dosent need Susano'o for a TBB. All he has to do is side-step it, or jump out of range, or disperse into crows and fly away. A Tailed-beast bomb takes TOO long to launch. While Naruto is charging it up, he can easily be Amaterasu'ed Or Sealed.

But i think Itachi is too smart for Naruto. I think he can easily outsmart someone like NAruto in battle with little effort. But Tsukiyomi can be used on Naruto even in cloak mode. Sasuke proved this with Bee. But since Itachi's Tsukiyomi is only 1 second in reality, The Fox would'nt have time to release Naruto unless he can notice that Naruto's in Tsukiyomi, and give him chakra, in less than a second which is nearly impossible. Before the Fox even blinks, NAruto would've died due to Tsukiyomi.
No tsukyomi does take a second but the fox can release him, because the time wud also go slow for the fox. So inside when he sees Naruto getting stabbed or something he cud release him and in reality it wud be about .001 of a second. And Naruto may be too fast for this as his speed is now around equal with A. With that said I say Itachi wud still win but if Naruto gets tbb rasengan then no. Because it can most likely break through sasoonu, and we know Naruto can dodge amatarasu. Plus Naruto wud have way more chakra as well, and can Naruto is not dumb as well. Oh and the disperse into crow thing, he can't do that, its only a genjutsu or a sub which we know is not that fast. So if the tbb of Naruto which is a rasengan, comes at great speed then Naruto wud beat Itachi trust me. When he gets this mastered he wud be nearly unstoppable. But for now I believe Itachi is still the strongest character alive next to Madara and Sasuke.
 

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No tsukyomi does take a second but the fox can release him, because the time wud also go slow for the fox. So inside when he sees Naruto getting stabbed or something he cud release him and in reality it wud be about .001 of a second. And Naruto may be too fast for this as his speed is now around equal with A. With that said I say Itachi wud still win but if Naruto gets tbb rasengan then no. Because it can most likely break through sasoonu, and we know Naruto can dodge amatarasu. Plus Naruto wud have way more chakra as well, and can Naruto is not dumb as well. Oh and the disperse into crow thing, he can't do that, its only a genjutsu or a sub which we know is not that fast. So if the tbb of Naruto which is a rasengan, comes at great speed then Naruto wud beat Itachi trust me. When he gets this mastered he wud be nearly unstoppable. But for now I believe Itachi is still the strongest character alive next to Madara and Sasuke.
i agree, and a tailed beast rasengan is just too much.

And i don't think the fox will be able to break NAruto out of Tsukiyomi, becuz it has to be a second to the fox. Otherwise the only way for the fox to know NAruto is in Tsukiyomi, is to be in Tsukiyomi "WITH" Naruto. And that means the fox will be feeling the pain as well. The fox and Naruto don't share the same Mind. They each think diffrent and have diffrent point of veiws, for example the Fox is full of Hate, and Naruto is a loving person. So they cant share a brain. Since Genjutsu affects the mind which is the brain. And Tsukiyomi affect the brain in less than a second. So for the Fox, it would only be a moment later until he sees NAruto layed out on the floor. (If The fox dosen't die). But if a jinchuriki dies the beast dies.

So Naruto = 3 days of torture (Or however long Itachi makes it).
Fox= 1 second (Unless he's experiencing the pain as well)

Although i may be wrong....
 

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Because Kabuto was controlling ITachi. Kabuto dosent have the same battle-strategies as Itachi. Itachi fights is own way. IF kabuto was smart he would've been used Genjutsu. Kabuto only used Nagato efficently.
If this were true, itachi wouldn't have used genjutsu against killer bee.

I know ITachi's clones arent comparible, but he can use them as protection like instead if getting hit with a rasenshuriken, he could use clones to get hit instead. So Naruto would be wasting chakra, attacking Clones. Plus He has Susano'o, and we dont know if a rasenshuriken can destroy Itachi's Susano'o, Or the Yata mirror.
If both waste chakra attacking clones, you know itachi will lose because he has almost infinitely less chakra than current naruto has. And I doubt naruto will use rasenshuriken on itachi unless itachi has susanoo up. A great ball and up will kill itachi if he isn't protected.

I agree it is debatable if a rasenshuriken could destroy susanoo, and I'm almost 100% sure that it will get outright reflected by the yata mirror, but again, if itachi uses susanoo, then it will have to be the real itachi using it, and any of naruto's 15+ KM clones can used rasenshuriken. This means they will hit susanoo from all angles, meaning yata will not be able to reflect at least half of them, and I doubt susanoo can tank more than 1 rasenshuriken.
 

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i agree, and a tailed beast rasengan is just too much.

And i don't think the fox will be able to break NAruto out of Tsukiyomi, becuz it has to be a second to the fox. Otherwise the only way for the fox to know NAruto is in Tsukiyomi, is to be in Tsukiyomi "WITH" Naruto. And that means the fox will be feeling the pain as well. The fox and Naruto don't share the same Mind. They each think diffrent and have diffrent point of veiws, for example the Fox is full of Hate, and Naruto is a loving person. So they cant share a brain. Since Genjutsu affects the mind which is the brain. And Tsukiyomi affect the brain in less than a second. So for the Fox, it would only be a moment later until he sees NAruto layed out on the floor. (If The fox dosen't die). But if a jinchuriki dies the beast dies.

So Naruto = 3 days of torture (Or however long Itachi makes it).
Fox= 1 second (Unless he's experiencing the pain as well)

Although i may be wrong....
I think ur wrong because Hachibi was able to free Sasuke and if I am not mistaken it doesn't say that Sasuke's tsukyomi is any different, except maybe the damage and strength but not time wise. Because Tsukyomi is actually like a dimension in which 72 hours of it is 1 sec in our world so meaning even Sasuke's since it is after all tsukyomi shud be the same time wise, so the kyuubi shud be able to snap Naruto out of it jus like hachibi did to Killer Bee.
 

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you know what to end this debate check this out.
take out nagato from the battle for leaf village, and put itachi in place
and let's say itachi took out his sm and toad's and stab hinata-and naruto is in
rage, put all that battle scene, even my fav boulder slamming part on itachi and really think about it. (if pain wasn't dead could he have survive those hit's, could itachi? it really doesn't matter but if your going to talk about kyuuby mode at least say if naruto is piss off or just normal fighting, because 10 out of 10 if he is piss off itachi going to get "burn" if not itachi genjutsu win.
 

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I think ur wrong because Hachibi was able to free Sasuke and if I am not mistaken it doesn't say that Sasuke's tsukyomi is any different, except maybe the damage and strength but not time wise. Because Tsukyomi is actually like a dimension in which 72 hours of it is 1 sec in our world so meaning even Sasuke's since it is after all tsukyomi shud be the same time wise, so the kyuubi shud be able to snap Naruto out of it jus like hachibi did to Killer Bee.
Nope. Itachi's Tsukiyomi is diffrent. Itachi's controls time and everything. Sasuke's does NOT.
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He can just do this to Naruto, this is what i meant by dispersing into crows.
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Dude he didn't disperse into crows, he used them as a distraction to cover the field so he could get close and get sasuke into tsukuyomi.



Having knowledge about Itachi's abilites will do you little good, unless you have the perfect counter technique for those techniques.
Naruto does have the perfect counter for those techniques:
Amaterasu Counters:
- faster than v2 raikage speed
- Kage-level clones that possibly have similar speed or will require amaterasu to kill.

Tsukuyomi counters:
- possible ninetails may snap naruto out of it,
- shadow clones since genjutsu does not work on them
- not look at itachi's eyes
- possible ninetails will snap him out of it since if naruto dies, it will die too.

Susanoo counters:
- Multiple rasenshurikens from all angles since his clones can do this
- Or can stay out of range and dodge susanoo using faster than V2 raikage speed, wearing itachi out


If all else fails, naruto can sumon ma or pa and have them use dust cloud. The rinnegan and sharingan cannot see through this, but naruto has sensor abilities.

Itachi dosent just Amaterasu outta no where. He uses clones and diversions to ensure an hit. Besides like i said before Tsukiyomi is enough to immobilize or kill Naruto.
naruto's clones >>> itachi's clones and naruto can make way more. No way clones are going to help itachi, he's going to have to resort to his most powerful moveset and I've already said how naruto can counter them.
 

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Nope. Itachi's Tsukiyomi is diffrent. Itachi's controls time and everything. Sasuke's does NOT.
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The difference between itachi's tsukuyomi and sasuke's doesn't matter. Genjutsu does not work on hosts who have control over their tailed beasts.
 

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Nope. Itachi's Tsukiyomi is diffrent. Itachi's controls time and everything. Sasuke's does NOT.
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I see, maybe u are right. But Naruto maybe too fast for it and etc. Also with a tbb rasengan naruto wud win but either way Itachi still has his chances and the answer of this thread is probably Itachi but it cud go either way.
 

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The difference between itachi's tsukuyomi and sasuke's doesn't matter. Genjutsu does not work on hosts who have control over their tailed beasts.
Sasuke genjutsu did "Work" on Bee. And sasuke had the perfect opportunity to finish him off. But instead Sasuke did nothing, and moments later bee escaped, and attacked. So Genjutsu does "Work". It's just a tailed-beast can help escape. Genjutsu even works on tailed-beasts.
 

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Sasuke genjutsu did "Work" on Bee. And sasuke had the perfect opportunity to finish him off. But instead Sasuke did nothing, and moments later bee escaped, and attacked. So Genjutsu does "Work". It's just a tailed-beast can help escape. Genjutsu even works on tailed-beasts.
Actually, it didn't work. Right when Bee got in it the tailed beast snapped him out of it. :flaw:
 
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