Harashima Senju VS Nagato(pain)

[Tosen]

1st Hokage, controls 7 Bijuu lets say you get the
- 1 tail
- 3 tails
- 4 tails
- 5 tails
- 7 tails
That's just 5 he can control 7 and all of those put together could destroy Nagato. Nagato can't take on 1 Bijuu with 9 tails and I doubt he can take 5 that add up to 20 tails. The chakra within all these Bijuu's has more, probably than the Kyuubi and the Hachibi. So if Nagato can't take one Jinjuuriki who doesn't know how to use the Kyuubi's Powers (AND ONLY AT 8 tails). How do you expect him to take on 5 Bijuu let alone 7 at once. And with all the other ninjitsu (Mokuton), and he himself has chakra, that of a Bijuu, which means 5 bijuu together and including the first, it means 6. So 7 would mean 8 bijuu, including him Soo let's see the famous Nagato take on that many Bijuu? No thanks I don't to see one of my favorite characters assassinated.

Dude you can not have the bijuus vs Nagato because if you do then you'll have to give Nagato the gedo mezo which has the power of 1-7 tailed beast. So you can not have two versions of the tailed beast at the same time otherwise you would have all the bijus vs 1-7 tailed beast see it doesn't make sense so leave it at Nagato vs Hashirama.

 

[Mr Byte]

1st Hokage, controls 7 Bijuu lets say you get the
- 1 tail
- 3 tails
- 4 tails
- 5 tails
- 7 tails
That's just 5 he can control 7 and all of those put together could destroy Nagato. Nagato can't take on 1 Bijuu with 9 tails and I doubt he can take 5 that add up to 20 tails. The chakra within all these Bijuu's has more, probably than the Kyuubi and the Hachibi. So if Nagato can't take one Jinjuuriki who doesn't know how to use the Kyuubi's Powers (AND ONLY AT 8 tails). How do you expect him to take on 5 Bijuu let alone 7 at once. And with all the other ninjitsu (Mokuton), and he himself has chakra, that of a Bijuu, which means 5 bijuu together and including the first, it means 6. So 7 would mean 8 bijuu, including him Soo let's see the famous Nagato take on that many Bijuu? No thanks I don't to see one of my favorite characters assassinated.

Who the hell said he can control more than 1 at at time. Also he is not a Jinchuriki he does not own a Tailed Beast, It is not a summon either he only Tamed it when Madara brought it in to a fight. HASHIRAMA DOES NOT OWN A TAILED BEAST SO IT IS NOT PART OF HIS ARTILLERY. ITS HASHIRAM VS NAGATO + PATHS. NAGATO WINS

 

[Tosen]

what facts twerdos i don't get ur problem is nagato like ur religion and am i offending it. where did kishi say nagato is stronger than hashirama. pls stop saying what ur saying is fact when it is not. And i am not hater of nagato i think he is very powerful and quite smart but i don't think he is the best and can beat everyone else like madara, kabuto, minato, itachi just to name a few , he is definitely one of the best but not the best and no kishi did not state that as a fact so stop spouting that bs.

yea dude(theleader) there are haters its common for any strong character ppl hate on itachi, nagato, madara, or pretty much any ppl near that lvl and there are fanboys for them too we can't help it. its ok to have fav charcaters but ppl have to realize there might be ppl who can beat them. i am bee fan but i kno naruto, sasuke, itachi, nagato, madara and pretty much anyone on that lvl can beat him.

True dat strong characters do have a lot of haters.

 

[arv993]

Who the hell said he can control more than 1 at at time. Also he is not a Jinchuriki he does not own a Tailed Beast, It is not a summon either he only Tamed it when Madara brought it in to a fight. HASHIRAMA DOES NOT OWN A TAILED BEAST SO IT IS NOT PART OF HIS ARTILLERY. ITS HASHIRAM VS NAGATO + PATHS. NAGATO WINS

Dude you can not have the bijuus vs Nagato because if you do then you'll have to give Nagato the gedo mezo which has the power of 1-7 tailed beast. So you can not have two versions of the tailed beast at the same time otherwise you would have all the bijus vs 1-7 tailed beast see it doesn't make sense so leave it at Nagato vs Hashirama.

nagato + paths no it doesnot work like that we have either seen him as pain or just by himself as nagato its not the combination of both.

gedo mazo is his but when he used it did not have 7 tb, if the OP is talking about prime yes nagato did have tb but hshirama had the bijus too.

 

[Tosen]

nagato + paths no it doesnot work like that we have either seen him as pain or just by himself as nagato its not the combination of both.

gedo mazo is his but when he used it did not have 7 tb, if the OP is talking about prime yes nagato did have tb but hshirama had the bijus too.

When nagato died the Akatsuki collected 1-7 tailed beast how did he not have 7 tailed beast.

 

[Bloody Temari]

Hashirama is tougher than Madara. And Pain is Madaras bitch.

 

[arv993]

When nagato died the Akatsuki collected 1-7 tailed beast how did he not have 7 tailed beast.

no dude u don't get it the ppl are from two different eras in hhashi's prime he had the bijus in his control, but nagato allies got the bijus in his prime with gedo sealing them.

 

[Tosen]

no dude u don't get it the ppl are from two different eras in hhashi's prime he had the bijus in his control, but nagato allies got the bijus in his prime with gedo sealing them.

Thats exactly what I was saying and why this should stay a Nagato vs Harashima and not include the bijuus bec their is no two versions of each Bijuus you can not have 3 tail vs 3 tail becaus there is only 1 tail in Narutoverse and not two versions.

 

[arv993]

Thats exactly what I was saying and why this should stay a Nagato vs Harashima and not include the bijuus bec their is no two versions of each Bijuus you can not have 3 tail vs 3 tail becaus there is only 1 tail in Narutoverse and not two versions.

yea ur right ppl should not include them in the discussion.

 

[Kira was Righteous]

what facts twerdos i don't get ur problem is nagato like ur religion and am i offending it. where did kishi say nagato is stronger than hashirama. pls stop saying what ur saying is fact when it is not. And i am not hater of nagato i think he is very powerful and quite smart but i don't think he is the best and can beat everyone else like madara, kabuto, minato, itachi just to name a few , he is definitely one of the best but not the best and no kishi did not state that as a fact so stop spouting that bs.

yea dude(theleader) there are haters its common for any strong character ppl hate on itachi, nagato, madara, or pretty much any ppl near that lvl and there are fanboys for them too we can't help it. its ok to have fav charcaters but ppl have to realize there might be ppl who can beat them. i am bee fan but i kno naruto, sasuke, itachi, nagato, madara and pretty much anyone on that lvl can beat him.

well that he destroyed konoha something madara and oro have wanted to do and dont dive me that shet about the village being weak if thats true then why didnt madara do it? What facts has put in the manga ok you make me repeat myself madara saying nagato is the strongest in the akatsaki calling him invincible saying he couldnt be beaten expressing disbelief when he was beaten taking nagatos rinnegan to make him so people crippling him so Itachi,Bee and Naruto could beat him being controlled by kabuto which makes you much weaker(like when hiuzen fought the first and second hokage and won as an old man) giving him gedo mazo,giving him tecniques that can kill thousands,giving him the abilty to fly,making him capture the 9 tails,having minato beat tobi then say naruto is stronger then minato from the toad,put in hints that genjutsu wont work on nagato giving his subordinates incredibly strong genjutsu blocks,having him compared to the sage by jiraya,having him kill jiraya,having him kill hanzo i could go on and on i dont need to prove anything to you but im tired of speaking to such an ignorant ******* as you do us all a favour and never come on narutobase again

 

[Mr.Beastie]

1st Hokage, controls 7 Bijuu lets say you get the
- 1 tail
- 3 tails
- 4 tails
- 5 tails
- 7 tails
That's just 5 he can control 7 and all of those put together could destroy Nagato. Nagato can't take on 1 Bijuu with 9 tails and I doubt he can take 5 that add up to 20 tails. The chakra within all these Bijuu's has more, probably than the Kyuubi and the Hachibi. So if Nagato can't take one Jinjuuriki who doesn't know how to use the Kyuubi's Powers (AND ONLY AT 8 tails). How do you expect him to take on 5 Bijuu let alone 7 at once. And with all the other ninjitsu (Mokuton), and he himself has chakra, that of a Bijuu, which means 5 bijuu together and including the first, it means 6. So 7 would mean 8 bijuu, including him Soo let's see the famous Nagato take on that many Bijuu? No thanks I don't to see one of my favorite characters assassinated.

i dont think he can control them just seal them.

 

[The L]

WTH an yet he was sealed by itachi and his paths defeated by naruto

nice one you left out a lot of information there itachi sealed nagato without help right and of course he wasnt being controlled and crippled

Harashima mokuto destroys nagato

great funny we never seen the full extent of his mokuton basically hashirama would be much stronger then vs oro much because he was being controlled but Nagato is to much for any character its funny because i find myself defending nagato when i dont even like him but i find people like kadowade,avr993,uzumaki sasuke and you now annoying uchiha fanboys who try to make nagato look bad because you know hes the stronger then your favourite character

 

[Mr.Beastie]

well that he destroyed konoha something madara and oro have wanted to do and dont dive me that shet about the village being weak if thats true then why didnt madara do it? What facts has put in the manga ok you make me repeat myself madara saying nagato is the strongest in the akatsaki calling him invincible saying he couldnt be beaten expressing disbelief when he was beaten taking nagatos rinnegan to make him so people crippling him so Itachi,Bee and Naruto could beat him being controlled by kabuto which makes you much weaker(like when hiuzen fought the first and second hokage and won as an old man) giving him gedo mazo,giving him tecniques that can kill thousands,giving him the abilty to fly,making him capture the 9 tails,having minato beat tobi then say naruto is stronger then minato from the toad,put in hints that genjutsu wont work on nagato giving his subordinates incredibly strong genjutsu blocks,having him compared to the sage by jiraya,having him kill jiraya,having him kill hanzo i could go on and on i dont need to prove anything to you but im tired of speaking to such an ignorant ******* as you do us all a favour and never come on narutobase again

calm down homie its just a debate i know he may have offended you but
Arguing on the internet is a waste of time.

 

[Lankeysob]

>_> Looks like I'll have to step in this. I read the first post and it said Hashirama ALONE vs. Nagato (no 6 paths) which means the Nagato that fought Hanzo. Now come on now....

Nagato destroyed the leaf village with a powerful shinra tensei. Well Hashirama created the Leaf village with a powerful Mokuton technique so scale wise jutsu are in both their favors. No matter what cheating abilities the rinnegan has, Hashirama was considered the strongest ninja in his time next to Madara. U think someone that powerful is just gonna die from shinra tensei and planetary devestation? No way in hell... Plus its pretty clear Hashirama knew fuuinjutsu since he married a uzumaki and can tame tailed beast. For all u know, he could simply seal Nagato.

U guys are overestimating Nagato and underestimating Hashirama and I don't know why u guys are comparing him to Naruto who went up against the six paths.

You could say the reverse as well, again, not enough information on either to really decide who is stronger.

 

[MinatoFLASH]

Someone tell me how Hashirama wud beat Pain. Plz just tell me.

 

[Izanami]

Someone tell me how Hashirama wud beat Pain. Plz just tell me.

I dont think he would the video below expains how hashirama would lose

 

[blackbird31468]

I dont think he would the video below expains how hashirama would lose

i don't think it gives enough information on why hashirama would lose, but i agree that nagato would win.

 

[arv993]

well that he destroyed konoha something madara and oro have wanted to do and dont dive me that shet about the village being weak if thats true then why didnt madara do it? What facts has put in the manga ok you make me repeat myself madara saying nagato is the strongest in the akatsaki calling him invincible saying he couldnt be beaten expressing disbelief when he was beaten taking nagatos rinnegan to make him so people crippling him so Itachi,Bee and Naruto could beat him being controlled by kabuto which makes you much weaker(like when hiuzen fought the first and second hokage and won as an old man) giving him gedo mazo,giving him tecniques that can kill thousands,giving him the abilty to fly,making him capture the 9 tails,having minato beat tobi then say naruto is stronger then minato from the toad,put in hints that genjutsu wont work on nagato giving his subordinates incredibly strong genjutsu blocks,having him compared to the sage by jiraya,having him kill jiraya,having him kill hanzo i could go on and on i dont need to prove anything to you but im tired of speaking to such an ignorant ******* as you do us all a favour and never come on narutobase again

blah blah stop getting stop ur fanboy rage ppl are gonna disagree with u and that is what this site is about so stop getting mad over it and cursing me off. first of all madara did not sy that and he called him invincible in a sarcastic manner and was pain really invincible no he is not no one is and madara was just used it as a phrase to say he is strong and jiraya gave him some trouble. madara could have destroyed konoha too with controlling the nine tails but why did he not win the village was actually much stronger back then and ppl can stand up to him like 3rd and minato thus him not destroying it. But in pain's case he destroyed a village that was a lot weaker and only had kakshi as the strongest ninja and naruto came only after it was destroyed so pain destroying was not that hard considering that he did not fight any ninjas at a very high lvl. MAdara can beat him cos he has the same powers plus others ones that can make him immune to nagato's powers. Nagato is very powerful but there are others who can clearly beat him and they are madara and kabuto and those who have a good chances of winning against him like Itachi and Minato Stop ur fanboy rage man u are the one who should not come on this site if u cannot even hear others opinions.

 

[arv993]

nice one you left out a lot of information there itachi sealed nagato without help right and of course he wasnt being controlled and crippled


great funny we never seen the full extent of his mokuton basically hashirama would be much stronger then vs oro much because he was being controlled but Nagato is to much for any character its funny because i find myself defending nagato when i dont even like him but i find people like kadowade,avr993,uzumaki sasuke and you now annoying uchiha fanboys who try to make nagato look bad because you know hes the stronger then your favourite character

its pathetic how ur pointing out ppl and if nagato is so strong why did he get defeated pretty easily i did not see him lasting long after itachi joined the fight lol. nagato fanboys really take it to a whole another lvl don't they xd xd

And madara being stronger than nagato is so wrong in ur world but newsflash for u he has the powers of nagato plus his own and including the izanagi how in the hell does nagato beat hhim but fanboys like yourself don't think much things through do you. the guy is very powerful but is beatable by ppl on similar lvls like itachi, minato, kabuto and madara.

 

[Allan Hoshigaki]

chibaku tensei would destroy hashirama this is the sages dojutsu come on dont be dumb hashirama fans.

SANNIN ELITE nagatos seix bodies captured the 6 tails in the filler eps he is strong enough to take abijuu did u forget he fought pain and naruto at the same time