Madara vs Nagato.

Fight to the death

  • Madara

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Rovian

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Listen I got no problem if Nagato received the Rinnegan from Madara but we all know Madara has a track record of lying namely lying to sasuke of the attack on Konaha.
I know, but you can't also predict when he lies and when he don't, unless Kishi proves it.. we can't say he lied about giving Nagato the Rinnegan.
 

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everything tobi says is not false unless kishi proves it otherwise he satnds by his statement. you cannot decide which part is false and which part is not then do you believe his explanation about the the sage's children that might be a lie too. We take info as true unless proven otherwise by kishi dude. but dude i see ur point and u very well may be right we just need proof of it.
Thats true you we cant decide but in certain topics like giving Nagato the rinnegan and when you look at Madaras character it's not beyond him to lie about that but Madara could be telling the truth who knows am sure kishi will come back to that and clarify that.
 

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I know, but you can't also predict when he lies and when he don't, unless Kishi proves it.. we can't say he lied about giving Nagato the Rinnegan.
Thats true but we cant say he did give Nagato the Rinnegan looking at Madaras character. So all am saying it's uncertain but by Madara and Madara words alone it was stated that he gave nagato the rinnegan.
 

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left my cpu on and refreshed the page to see this retardation.
you relize that when nagato went against kakashi choji etc other character he didn't even raise his hand.
what lies you mean all your bs of he has to raise his hand, someone would even
agree to your statement because they don't want to belive shinra is instant
I know he can, but I thought your question was if Nagato wanted to use a straight way Shinra Tensei push, and not an area of effect one..

Well, If he wanted a direct hit Shinra Tensei to an opponent, then he needs to raise his hand to have a straight force push, if he needs to perform it without using his hands, then that turns us to where I told you that Madara can counter it by using Izanagi to turn that reality into illusion.
 

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dude don't sweat over it after all my proof he still blabs like an idiot he is not just a nagato fan but a fanboy what can you do about it. Nb is where ppl can argue and there are sometimes retards like him.
Most of the retards be the Nagato fans. Not sayin all of them are, but most of what i seen. They are just TOO stubborn and will say anything that pops in their head, that favors pain.

And the Nagato fans be the main one to tell somebody to stfu all the time.
It's actually funny to me. When they start insulting xd
 

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Thats true but we cant say he did give Nagato the Rinnegan looking at Madaras character. So all am saying it's uncertain but by Madara and Madara words alone it was stated that he gave nagato the rinnegan.
I know dude, so it's uncertain thing yet.. that's what I was saying, since Kishi didn't confirmed it.. we can't tell he lied or not, unless Kishi proves it.. but right know, Madara is talking by Kishi's tongue that he gave Nagato the Rinnegan, all we need is another scene from Kishi to prove it.
 

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left my cpu on and refreshed the page to see this retardation.
you relize that when nagato went against kakashi choji etc other character he didn't even raise his hand.
what lies you mean all your bs of he has to raise his hand, someone would even
agree to your statement because they don't want to belive shinra is instant
nagato does use hands for any strong shinra tensei only minor oones he does not and for his opponents he does use it and madara is almost always in the beginning of a fight intangible, look at any of his fights he does not go solid unless for an attack and he knos nagatos's attacks why would he attack him when he did not use shinra tensei. you are such a noob that its funny xd. you think nagato is even gonna get madara especially since he even lacks mobility after one shinra tensei nagato is vulnerable to being absorbed.
 
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Most of the retards be the Nagato fans. Not sayin all of them are, but most of what i seen. They are just TOO stubborn and will say anything that pops in their head, that favors pain.

And the Nagato fans be the main one to tell somebody to stfu all the time.
It's actually funny to me. When they start insulting xd
yea its pretty pathetic especially this guyy who does not understand what instant means and blabs on and on and provides no proof whatsoever. some are actually fans and logical and use evidence to back up claims but some are retarded and just curse or say bs as an answer.
 

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wel this thread is not clear enough to comprehend,is it the pain that fought with the six path in 1,or them all differetly,or just nagato,without their powers.if its nagato using d six path in 1,he will win.but if its d six differently,madara wil win jus like naruto won.but if its jus pain,without d orda six powers,madara,wil kill him easily.
 

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nagato does use hands for any strong shinra tensei only minor oones he does not and for his opponents he does use it and madara is almost always in the beginning of a fight intangible, look at any of his fights he does not go solid unless for an attack and he knos nagatos's attacks why would he attack him when he did not use shinra tensei. you are such a noob that its funny xd. you think nagato is even gonna get madara especially since he even lacks mobility after one shinra tensei nagato is vulnerable to being absorbed.
Nagato is not only limited to shinra tensei he knows this himself so he relies on summons to see for him and reacts to dangers seen by the summons eyes. And nagato could use the human path to suck Madaras soul but has you said that tech is slow (or appeared slow during when he used it on Naruto) but has soon you get caught it's hard to escape has Naruto couldn't escape and before you say he could phase out of it what proofs do you have that he can use his s/t jutsu in this position.
 

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I know dude, so it's uncertain thing yet.. that's what I was saying, since Kishi didn't confirmed it.. we can't tell he lied or not, unless Kishi proves it.. but right know, Madara is talking by Kishi's tongue that he gave Nagato the Rinnegan, all we need is another scene from Kishi to prove it.
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Nagato is not only limited to shinra tensei he knows this himself so he relies on summons to see for him and reacts to dangers seen by the summons eyes. And nagato could use the human path to suck Madaras soul but has you said that tech is slow (or appeared slow during when he used it on Naruto) but has soon you get caught it's hard to escape has Naruto couldn't escape and before you say he could phase out of it what proofs do you have that he can use his s/t jutsu in this position.
how is he gonna catach someone faster than him and a man who is intangible at that he can teleport away or go underneath the ground. nagato has his chances, i agree but he would likely lose because madara can avoid any of his attacks and can avoid nagato's eyes and come from any direction to kill him or absorb him and even in a bad situation he has izanagi and turn everything into a dream and get an opening to kill or absrob nagato. And noww they are no comparison since tobi has got the power of the beasts and the rinnegan himself. dude there is a reason he is the main villain. nagato has his chances but a combo of s/t and izanagi can give him a win even though he would lose an eye for it but he can without too.
 
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and theleader iin that position its hard for nagato get someone who is intangible in the first place to be caught in human path but if he does madara can use izanagi and also naruto was still able to use rasengan so why can't madara use a dojutsu tech also like s/t and phase out but remember izanagi is there anyway. so either way u see it madara can get out. srry for the double post.
 

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how is he gonna catach someone faster than him and a man who is intangible at that he can teleport away or go underneath the ground. nagato has his chances, i agree but he would likely lose because madara can avoid any of his attacks and can avoid nagato's eyes and come from any direction to kill him or absorb him and even in a bad situation he has izanagi and turn everything into a dream and get an opening to kill or absrob nagato. And noww they are no comparison since tobi has got the power of the beasts and the rinnegan himself. dude there is a reason he is the main villain.
Nagato is faster then you think and he dose have quick reflexcess so he dose have a chance at getting Madara with the human path. But in a fight between complete nagato and rinnegan Madara Tailed beasts are not apart of the equation because when Nagato was alive and the leader, the akatsuki collected 7 tailed beast( or however amount of numbers I forgot) but Irinnegan Madara could be stronger then Nagato becasuse like you said he has s/t and sharinga jutsu and rinnegan but we dont know how proficient he his but if kishi shows him stronger then Nagato in the upcoming manga chapters I got no problems saying Madara is the strongest but for now Nagato is the strongest "shown" character atleast imo.
 
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