Itachi and Nagato CANT be compared...

[PositiveEmotions]

You do realize that in that panel, he's thinking to himself? Meaning, Kishi is showing us his thoughts. Unless he's trying to trick himself, his thoughts are true.

He is not communicating with Sasuke telepathically.

i know that dude but i doubt every part he thinks about is true

 

[kadowade]

i know that dude but i doubt every part he thinks about is true

I don't see a reason to purposely lie to yourself though.

 

[PositiveEmotions]

I don't see a reason to purposely lie to yourself though.

well idk but i wanna c his face already

 

[kadowade]

well idk but i wanna c his face already

ikno right. We might see it when naruto beats him (If he beats him). But what i wanna see tha most is Kabuto's last coffin.

 

[PositiveEmotions]

ikno right. We might see it when naruto beats him (If he beats him). But what i wanna see tha most is Kabuto's last coffin.

yea same here but wut i wanna c the most is sasuke vs naruto

 

[Inception]

i know that dude but i doubt every part he thinks about is true

lol, am i reading your posts right?

He's thinking to himself. He's basically saying that he's very lucky that he kept his secrets or Itachi would have killed him. Do you realize that there is no reason to lie to himself? What would he be lying about? Actually, how can you lie to yourself while thinking about something like what Tobi was?

good point and completely agreed but to the previous thing u said about nagato is not too bright becos he did not absorb with his preta path when he was alive i think its just a plot hole but not something that is actually showing that nagato is not bright. what do u think about this cos i find it very hard to believe that nagato does not kno his own power can restore him. just want to kno what u think on that perspective.

Can't say if he knew or not. Either way, if it's a plot hole, it's a big one. Nagato is definitely not as intelligent as Kabuto, that is for sure. I would say he's as smart as Naruto (current manga) which is about the level of an average shinobi. While Naruto may act dumb, Nagato does not.

 

[PositiveEmotions]

lol, am i reading your posts right?

He's thinking to himself. He's basically saying that he's very lucky that he kept his secrets or Itachi would have killed him. Do you realize that there is no reason to lie to himself? What would he be lying about? Actually, how can you lie to yourself while thinking about something like what Tobi was?



Can't say if he knew or not. Either way, if it's a plot hole, it's a big one. Nagato is definitely not as intelligent as Kabuto, that is for sure. I would say he's as smart as Naruto (current manga) which is about the level of an average shinobi. While Naruto may act dumb, Nagato does not.

im not disagreeing but the way u say it its just sounds funny

 

[kobi sugoichi kempachi]

Nope. Im not saying Itachi is as fast as Minato. Madara was the one who said "If he knew about me, he wouldve killed me". MAdara said this. Not me.

But since Itachi was also an diversed Uchiha , just like Madara, maybe ITachi knew how to counter or knew a way around some of MAdara's Techniques. He didnt want itachi to know all about him otherwise Itachi would've figured him out, and Madara must've thought Itachi had the potential to kill him thats why he kept secrets from itachi, and even said "Itachi wouldv'e killed me"

Stop makin up Shit, Madara said that if he didnt Have a Secret to stop Himself from burning up, he would have died. Thats It !!! He never said that Itachi would kill him, Itachi would kill him in a real fight, or anything of the sort. Maybe nothin??? Madara is inpervious to all ninjutsu, the only way that it was seen to bypass it is either space-time teleportation jutsu(like Minato), and a apocalypes of paper bumbs wich is a Keke genkei (like Konan). Itachi has none of those and thats fact for now. We do see that Madara has an counter for the black flames though. The less one knows about there the other ones abillity and its capabilities the better. Madara never anticipated that Sasukes Sharingan was set on self activation that madara clearly call a "fell-safe" but minus the "Safe".lol He realy said that shit man. and buy keeping his distance from Itachi, he limited Itachi sceme of killing him before he got to sasuke and to the leaf. Madara snuffed that by learning a jutsu to counter the black flames. Madara did so cus Itachi was a treat to real goal.(just like Minato but minato snuff him in battle) Well played by Madara I'd say. He cleary won the battle of smarts

 

[Inception]

Stop makin up Shit, Madara said that if he didnt Have a Secret to stop Himself from burning up, he would have died. Thats It !!! He never said that Itachi would kill him, Itachi would kill him in a real fight, or anything of the sort. Maybe nothin??? Madara is inpervious to all ninjutsu, the only way that it was seen to bypass it is either space-time teleportation jutsu(like Minato), and a apocalypes of paper bumbs wich is a Keke genkei (like Konan). Itachi has none of those and thats fact for now. We do see that Madara has an counter for the black flames though. The less one knows about there the other ones abillity and its capabilities the better. Madara never anticipated that Sasukes Sharingan was set on self activation that madara clearly call a "fell-safe" but minus the "Safe".lol He realy said that shit man. and buy keeping his distance from Itachi, he limited Itachi sceme of killing him before he got to sasuke and to the leaf. Madara snuffed that by learning a jutsu to counter the black flames. Madara did so cus Itachi was a treat to real goal.(just like Minato but minato snuff him in battle) Well played by Madara I'd say. He cleary won the battle of smarts

The fact he says that he would be dead if he didn't keep secrets from Itachi just proves that Itachi was more than capable of killing him. His plan failed, I will agree with that.

 

[kobi sugoichi kempachi]

You do realize that in that panel, he's thinking to himself? Meaning, Kishi is showing us his thoughts. Unless he's trying to trick himself, his thoughts are true.

He is not communicating with Sasuke telepathically.

Yea, its true for now, and what he saids about why he did what he did was understandable im my point of veiw. His On clan practicaly betrayed him and became second fitel to the senju clan and he himself got snuffed out of the 1st Hokage depate, if there even was one. My guest is that hashirama had that likable personality and Madara didint, mabe He resented his clansmen for that or he resented Hashirama. Kinda like Naruto and Sasuke.

 

[Inception]

Yea, its true for now, and what he saids about why he did what he did was understandable im my point of veiw. His On clan practicaly betrayed him and became second fitel to the senju clan and he himself got snuffed out of the 1st Hokage depate, if there even was one. My guest is that hashirama had that likable personality and Madara didint, mabe He resented his clansmen for that or he resented Hashirama. Kinda like Naruto and Sasuke.

Maybe Tobi isn't Madara at all. Madara wasn't known as such a bad guy until Tobi showed up.

 

[kobi sugoichi kempachi]

Yea, I have my theary on who he realy is, But If he is who he say he is, the I can see why he became a bad guy, He read the tablets under the leaf village an came up with a long division plan to become ruler of all. If what he said is true and that he was real jealous of How his clan flocked to Hashirama, Maybe is personal filling of how he wasnt seen as the guy who would become hokage realy hit him hard. And He couldn't change his clans, as well as senjus clan perseption of him. So he wanted to control ALL under his will with infinite Tusutoymi. Evey one has a deep reason why they do what they do. Like Itachi and Nagato past led them were they are now. Madara is trying to get what he desired back in the old days, the personality that of Hashirama. That is threary on why he admired Hashirama so much.

 

[kobi sugoichi kempachi]

Danm, That was deep what I said, Maybe I sould Thread it.
I need to light one up after that. lol

 

[khaydz5]

Pls link me a chapter page where it shows Pain capturing Naruto. Pain came close but did not have him in his grasp. In the page linked above, Nagato clearly has both Bee and Naruto in his sleeves and Itachi interferes.



Even he can't control all of the Edo Tensei summons at once. He did put them on auto pilot so I guess that's good enough .

Let me ask you this, if Nagato is so smart, why did he not use his Preta Path ability when he was alive? Did he like the anorexic look? Was he suicidal when he was alive?

1. you're crazy dude, when naruto was pinned down its also as good as being captured.. naruto can't do anything until kyuubi saved his ass... much like when they where in nagato's grasp and itachi saved them.. got it?
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2. when naruto found him he still can fight that time, he can use preta path as we saw it but because of talk-no-jutsu, ofcourse nagato was beaten by the main character..

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in this scenario if naruto attack nagato and fight to the death with no plot-no-jutsu, of course he'll use preta path to regain chakra..

 

[Jonesy161]

Itachi is only as strong as he is due to the fact he's extremely smart when it comes to fights. He's able to anazlyze his current situation and formulate a counter attack within seconds. With that ability, he can utilize his MS to it's fullest extent.

I would disagree with you though on saying they're stronger then Minato. I would say Minato is smarter than Itachi and capable of even outwitting Itachi. Granted, of any shinobi to fight Minato, I believe only Itachi would stand a chance, however, when it comes down to chakra, Minato has more. When it comes down to speed, Minato is faster. When it comes down to battle smarts, Minato is superior. But like I said, of all shinobis, only Itachi would stand a chance of defeating Minato, but that chance is slim.

When it comes down to Itachi vs. anyone else, then yes, I'll agree with you on that. With Itachi's brain power, you'll have to be ridiculously smart to outwit Itachi, so even for Kabuto, that will be one hard ass fight to pull of a victory.

 

[arv993]

1. you're crazy dude, when naruto was pinned down its also as good as being captured.. naruto can't do anything until kyuubi saved his ass... much like when they where in nagato's grasp and itachi saved them.. got it?
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2. when naruto found him he still can fight that time, he can use preta path as we saw it but because of talk-no-jutsu, ofcourse nagato was beaten by the main character..

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in this scenario if naruto attack nagato and fight to the death with no plot-no-jutsu, of course he'll use preta path to regain chakra..

if naruto fought nagato in that last link you showed nagato would be dead naruto would kill him with frog katas but talk no jutsu played its part there and revived all of konoha instead of naruto killing nagato.

And khadyz i think his point is that yes naruto did captured but with kabuto's control they got caught in mere seconds where as when pain was fighting against naruto(a weaker one at that) not bee on the side he took much longer to capture him.

 

[Sage of six paths X]

Well kinda exept that there not invincible.

 

[ReLax -]

Hey, I saw you on the thread and was just calling you out to see if you would reply, and it worked. there was no insult there. there is realy no excuse for these spelling error but let me just say that I was on E. You weren't the only one to do so Yesterday.

"calling you out to see if you would reply and it worked."? What are we in a UFC arena or going to a street fight that you decide to call me out? How did it work? Do you not see that I replied 4-5 hrs after you posted. I read what you wrote, but never had the time to reply and when I did, I replied.

No excuse for you errors but yet you keep on making them. I can understand making a few but out of 100 words when you have more than 40+ errors it is ridiculous.

Yes they are intitled to there opinion but I'm intitled to call out BS when I see it. The can believe what they want and I can call it like I see it.

What were assumptions was what I said were assumtions. the rest was points that were well analyzed by what was said.

My god, we got Kishi here with us. He states, whatever he writes are facts or right points. As far as I have read his posts, I've seen 90% assumptions/opinion and 10% facts, maybe even less. I would kindly ask people, if they have the time to go back and re read some of his post and let me know, If I am wrong but as he says, I see 'BS'.

Accurate? yes, Opinions? No, They was made as truthful as I could make it and ""It's all opinions and a fan boys view on the topic, so quit saying you have facts at all in this."" is a incomplete sentence. your missuse of madara words clearly an Assumption that was was false.

Clearly, go read my post above. "They was made as truthful as I could make it." That statement itself, proves of an opinion/assumption base reply. I have tried to make things as truthful also, so it is accurate than, other Nagato and Itachi fans made truthful statements as they could to, so they are also accurate.

What Nagato said about J man was a fact and I never said Killed when refering to Nagato's quote.Killed is the same thing any way cos it was plain as day that J man ment to kill Nagato based on the fact that J man stuck a stone sword threw the three Pains hearts.Hints why Nagato use that flawless strategy.

See, cought in your own bs that you tried to accuse me of.

Typical.xd

You say all that bs and then go and do what you preached to me.

Let me say that this was atended to be a vs thread at the begining but it way between all other shinobi but not nagato. Now I'm going to assume that he must have been on the Itachi vs Nagato Thread and got real and yet still came off bias.lol

Are you slow? Can you understand English or Japanese? are you blind?

If none of the above apply to you than you clearly are a fanboy, Itachi hater, or a kid who clearly lacks in listening/hearing/reading skills.

You say that Nagato/Pein states that if Jiriaya knew his secret, Nagato/Pein would have been defeated. I agree it is a fact as it was stated in the manga, but yet when Tobi clearly states that if he had not had some secrets hidden from Itachi, he (Tobi) would have been dead. I don't understand how you can neglect that fact, that has been stated in the manga.

but since I am allergic to bull sh*, "" I "" call it out and sure enough, it became a vs thread Between Itachi and Nagato!

silly me!!!!!

lmao
prove that Itachi can Kill Madara that prove it then. I asure you that all your point will be oppinionated and thats My opinion that will soon be a fact.LOL

Im tired of sh*t but still injoy it

Yes, clearly when you start typing your allergies start kicking in due to the fact, that you are typing a wall of BS.

The manga has already stated that as it stated Jiraiya would have defeated Nagato/Pein. It's not an assumption/opinion but a fact in the manga.

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Tobi, clearly states that he even was able to keep some secrets from him (Itachi), or else he would have been DEAD. That is a fact.

So, please do come with a better argument and write your response on Microsoft Word, spell check it, and than reply to this thread. It will help us all to understand you better.

 

[Ryuto]

Look man Minato is the strongest person to live its just to bad he didn't live longger

 

[Jelwajo]

you can compare anything, as long as you have relavant arguments