Itachi and Nagato CANT be compared...

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your the man for this, pat your self on the back :p haha. every body is so ignorant when it comes to there role models and idols and deserve to get slapped with some baby powder. any ways, i agree with you 1000% but where does it say that madara cant beat itachi?

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I don't usually disagree with your post but I would have to on this.

We have seen Minato only use S-T and Resengan, along with his intelligent but yet he was able to match both Raikage and Bee, won't say what really happen here as it wasn't explained clearly but as an assumption, we can say Raikage and Bee were outclassed or beaten. He even outsmarted Tobi (I do realize Tobi, was controlling the fox and all) but with one attack, he marked, wounded and took the fox out of Tobi's control which is quiet impressive.

Itachi just with regular Sharingan is able to take the likes of Oro and Deidara out within seconds.

As a little joke I read somewhere, which is also somewhat true

3rd Hoakge took 3-4 episode to beat Oro
Sasuke took 2-3 to beat Oro
Itachi took 30 seconds

Itachi with just his genjutsu was deadly alone (He could beat many shinobi's just with a regular genjutsu and even experienced ones), as Minato was with his S-T (He could S-T and stab people with Kunai's and end battles), it was said that elders from other villages told there shinobi to run when you see the Yellow Flash of Konoho and this was before he was Hokage.

The truth is Minato, Itachi and Nagato are three of the most popular character and most over hyped/under hyped at times.

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Though I disagree about Sasuke beating Oro in 2-3 episode ..lol.. Oro was bed ridden and already lost most of strength to Hiruzen the Thid Hokage when Sasuke fought him. Sasuke is not near Itachi as a true shinobi yet. he may get there in future.. but "dilli abhi door hai.." lol.. I don't know appropriate phrase for it English
 

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I don't usually disagree with your post but I would have to on this.

We have seen Minato only use S-T and Resengan, along with his intelligent but yet he was able to match both Raikage and Bee, won't say what really happen here as it wasn't explained clearly but as an assumption, we can say Raikage and Bee were outclassed or beaten. He even outsmarted Tobi (I do realize Tobi, was controlling the fox and all) but with one attack, he marked, wounded and took the fox out of Tobi's control which is quiet impressive.

Itachi just with regular Sharingan is able to take the likes of Oro and Deidara out within seconds.

As a little joke I read somewhere, which is also somewhat true

3rd Hoakge took 3-4 episode to beat Oro
Sasuke took 2-3 to beat Oro
Itachi took 30 seconds

Itachi with just his genjutsu was deadly alone (He could beat many shinobi's just with a regular genjutsu and even experienced ones), as Minato was with his S-T (He could S-T and stab people with Kunai's and end battles), it was said that elders from other villages told there shinobi to run when you see the Yellow Flash of Konoho and this was before he was Hokage.

The truth is Minato, Itachi and Nagato are three of the most popular character and most over hyped/under hyped at times.

I didn't mean to put Minato down. We really haven't seen much of him to compare him to everyone else. He was Hokage, he was smart. Nagato on the other hand has shown all of his abilities.

As for his fight with Raikage and Bee. He did defeat the Raikage in a way but Bee had his sword up against Minato too. His fight with Tobi and the Fox is what makes him out to be great.

I will agree with your post :).
 

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Though I disagree about Sasuke beating Oro in 2-3 episode ..lol.. Oro was bed ridden and already lost most of strength to Hiruzen the Thid Hokage when Sasuke fought him. Sasuke is not near Itachi as a true shinobi yet. he may get there in future.. but "dilli abhi door hai.." lol.. I don't know appropriate phrase for it English

LOL Well that is true Oro wasn't at his fullest but Sasuke still got the victory. I mean we look at it as much as we may want to but Sasuke defeated Oro (Oro was weak, wasn't killed but defeated, and he was sealed by Itachi later), Naruto Defeated Pein/Nagato (Naruto had intel on Nagato but Nagato was beaten, after he scarficed himself becuase he believed in Naruto), and Sasuke defeated Itachi (Itachi plan was to let Sasuke win, which he did, victory goes to Sasuke). IMO, I'm against all these but it's in the Narutoverse. It's simply like saying, if Ali and Tyson fought and Ali lets Tyson win only a few people will notice it or know about it but the rest of the world will think Tyson is the best, same in this situation only a few know what really happen but the victory is given to these people. I speak of this Narutoverse wise not, the readers or anime watchers.

"dilli abhi door hai.." Is this in Urdu, Punjabi, or Hindi LOL

I didn't mean to put Minato down. We really haven't seen much of him to compare him to everyone else. He was Hokage, he was smart. Nagato on the other hand has shown all of his abilities.

As for his fight with Raikage and Bee. He did defeat the Raikage in a way but Bee had his sword up against Minato too. His fight with Tobi and the Fox is what makes him out to be great.

I will agree with your post :).

I agree, Minato was not shown to his fullest but what we seen, we can only assume that he must be capable of much more. I also believe Itachi wasn't shown at his best either, as you may also think the same. Itachi disease like most people think didn't effect his eyes but his entire body IMO, We can assume that his disease effect his whole chakra/stamina, I mean there is no way in hell that he cannot fight endurance wise in the past. I mean even this Itachi has been prised by many and feared. Kabuto stated Itachi was on a level beyond others, Tobi some what feared him and also was glad when Itachi died since he thought of Itachi as his biggest problem. (Too others I'm not stating Itachi is un beatable or any, so don't come at me with those comments/replies)

As Nagato goes, it's true we have seen Nagato at his fullest because Kishi wanted to show the Rinnegan, we don't know how good Tobi will be using Nagato's Rinnegan, so therefore Kishi give us a better look at it showing almost it's full capability. I mean we seen Sharingan and MS quite a bit, Itachi intelligence while using it, Kakashi normal usage, Sasuke's stupidty and we will see more of maybe Izuna/Madara or atleast will see Madara's and now we will also see Sasuke EMS and eventually Madara's.
 

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LOL .....I speak of this Narutoverse wise not, the readers or anime watchers.

"dilli abhi door hai.." Is this in Urdu, Punjabi, or Hindi LOL

I knew.. but.. I had to say that. lol

Dilli abhi door hai= Delhi is still far.. Simply means (here)that Sasuke haven't reached his destination or attained the goal he was supposed to find.
 

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I knew.. but.. I had to say that. lol

Dilli abhi door hai= Delhi is still far.. Simply means (here)that Sasuke haven't reached his destination or attained the goal he was supposed to find.

LOL

It's like "Abhi Manzel Nahi Poocha" * grammar error* but means, "He hasn't reached his goal/destination yet."
 

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LOL

It's like "Abhi Manzel Nahi Poocha" * grammar error* but means, "He hasn't reached his goal/destination yet."

High five!

:lmao:

His 'Manzil' is Naruto.. :rofl: ( Sakura will kill both of them . :p)
 

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sleepy thread..time 2 sleep.. Yea, everything yooooooooooou say is so..col..ughm
 

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I've just got back on the base and I've noticed alot of Itachi/Nagato vs threads.. such as raikage's, minato ect.. I just have to let everyone know.. as Kabuto IS the USER of the Impure World Resurrection I think he know what he's talkin bout.. plus he worked under a genius known as orochimaru.. so i htink he knows alot bout previous shinobi. Kabuto specifacilly stated THAT both ITACHI and NAGATO are his two STRONGEST summoning other then the last coffin (meaning he HAS no other summoning stronger then those two).. (Put the last coffin to the side for now) Itachi and Nagato ARE his two best strongest shinobi which is why he wanted to use those two to capture the 8 and 9 tails at the same time (which would have worked mind you if it weren't for Itachi's geniusness) So everyone please stop makin new threads with itach vs raikage or nagato vs anyone.. because THEY cant be COMPARED to.. If the 3rd raikage was stronger he would have used him instead of them to try and capture 8 or 9 tails.. but he didnt bcuz bee and naruto would have won together.. No other shinobi not even Madara could stand up agaisnt Itachi (stated by Madara himself) meaning that Itachi is overall stronger than every previous kage alongside nagato "since the 1st was the strongest hokage"..(and madara admits he NEVER lost to the 1st hokage.. He merely pretended to lose to gain his DNA in order to perform the ability Izanagi stated here.



so people please stop thinkin the 1st was STRONGER then Madara.. simple fact is he wasnt Madara wanted his DNA to perform the Izanagi

These are the two prodigies of the shippuden series.. Itachi was the Uchiha Pride.. and ELITE clan feared by all.. who all praised ONE man "Itachi"..

Nagato has rinnegon nuff said.. The strongest Dojutsu that the sharigan cant even beat..

So everyone please stop makin pointless threads the 1st couldnt beat madara.. Itachi can meaning Itachi is stronger then the 1st and also the rest of the bunch and nagato is up there with Itachi so NO MORE.. Itachi and Nagato are the strongest shinobi to walk the world next to the SO6P himself and now MADARA'S current form.. Since he has EMS, Izanagi, Time-Space, Rineggon and all same abilities as young complete Nagato..

Comment please bcuz people need to realize that itachi nor Nagato cant be compared to not even to JMAN, ORO, Minato none of them are a match for either one of these two...

Also, I kno peeps might bring up the battle between Itachi/Kisame vs JMAN well Itachi wanted to protect Konoha so why would he force or let anyone know he can defeat him? Just doesnt makes sense... Itachi's secret was only known by the 3rd, Danzo and the two elders not even JMAN knew.. so JMAN wouldnt even understand why Itachi was the way he was..


STFU Jack and how come someone post a bais thread, the fist ones to reply are so dam, quick to give reps, ~ow man i love man~ fans like you just made an end all point.Well, I'm gesting that you just came frome under a rock so let me inliten you. Madara lost to the 1st. If he didnt, if could own the 1st then why in Blue Hell does madara keep sayin that he is a cheap shell of is former self. Oh I know I know!!!! Because the 1st molly waped his ass thats way.. Madara might have stole His Dna but beat the facked that lost. With that said, Minato onwed hi in 3 seconds an I know that Madara ran away but I garen~ da^m ~te that if Minato was alive right now he would be stoping Magara right now but He left that up to his son. And Itachi said it himself that he never thought that he would have to use Shisus Eye( that Shisu gave to him and never fought with) in that perdicument.

If the 3rd raikage was stronger he would have used him instead of them to try and capture 8 or 9 tails.. but he didnt bcuz bee and naruto would have won together..

Thats stupid of you to say - A Dua- Why would he send one to take on two beast by himself. You brag on Kabuto so much why would he do that. Let me give you some info on Kabuto Jack. The Third riakage is better used taking out amys of shinobi. Kabuto new the thirds abillities are bast for that. His best option was to use the Sharingan and Rinnagan together to overwelm Naruto and bee.

No other shinobi not even Madara could stand up agaisnt Itachi (stated by Madara himself) meaning that Itachi is overall stronger than every previous kage alongside nagato "since the 1st was the strongest hokage"..(and madara admits he NEVER lost to the 1st hokage.. He merely pretended to lose to gain his DNA in order to perform the ability Izanagi stated here.



so people please stop thinkin the 1st was STRONGER then Madara.. simple fact is he wasnt Madara wanted his DNA to perform the Izanagi


Madara said that he couldnt defeat Itach??? wheres that proff? Nowhere cos he never said it and were does madara say that he lost on purpose aginst the fist. he said"The true winner is he who chose to focus on the future" Hm, Sound like someone who got his ass handed to him would say..... If he lost on purpose then why say you'er a mere shell of your former self. Why say that.

1st couldnt beat madara.. Itachi can meaning Itachi is stronger then the 1st and also the rest of the bunch and nagato is up there with Itachi so NO MORE.. Itachi and Nagato are the strongest shinobi to walk the world next to the SO6P himself and now MADARA'S current form.. Since he has EMS, Izanagi, Time-Space, Rineggon and all same abilities as young complete Nagato..



Madara said that he was a shell of his former self, so when he uptained EMS He at his best and still lost and we still dont know His Techs of EMS or Ms so How can Itachi be stronger than them both. Just becouse Hashirama was seen in the early parts of the manga you think hes weaker than Itachi but hes not. We Still dont Now all his techs eather.

""No More""? Realy?

way to make a strong point to end it all there -_- .

STOP USEING NAGATO AS A SCAPEGOAT FOR ITACHI,puting itachi on his level is a FLAGRENT 2 FOWL and should be ejected and find for it. Nagato is one a level of his own, especialy a healthy, revived one. Insted of nocking pple for making thread you shoug go and read a thread. I recomend the Itachi vs Nagato thread, It should educate you on that topic.

Also, I kno peeps might bring up the battle between Itachi/Kisame vs JMAN well Itachi wanted to protect Konoha so why would he force or let anyone know he can defeat him? Just doesnt makes sense...

Since you are throwing othe great shinobi under the bus, let me tell you that Nagato and itachi gave props to J man. Nagato clearly said that he wouldnt have defeated J man if J man new his secret at the start of the battle.



How come J man can defeat Nagato, but you put him under the boat and put Itach on the level with Nagato wich hes not

It would be true Cus If J man had known the secret, he would have used the Sage toad ginjutsu on all of them at once.(something tsukuyomi cant do).

and Itachi said this.......

Kisame: "You can fight how and where you want, but I don't know... the time is wrong."
Itachi: "Ah. To meet those two and kill them. It's a good place to fight. So they can't augment the number of people they have."
Kisame: "It was good that we found him at the Ramen shop. But he's protected by one of the legendary three ninjas. That guy might be a match for the first of the leaf and one of the mist's seven strongest."
Itachi: "Ah, but... It's said that every strong man has a weakness"​

the Naruto anime depicks it much more.

Kisame: "While you may be able to manage agianst him, I couldnt passibbly..."
"He's on a completely different level..."
Itachi: " Yea, if we go at each other, we'll either be killed at best, or be killed simultaniously." " Even if we increased the numbers the outcome wouldn't change."
Kisame: " With him as an opponent, the names os the Leaf Village Uchiha Clan and the seven swordsmen of the mist would be tarnished."
Itachi: " However, it is said that everything has a weakness."

This is basicly sayin that J man is stronger than them both and Itachi clearly pointed out later in the manga that J mans weakness is women. Since it is clear that Itachi is a Ginus, He did the math in his head and based off his abillities and the onknown of J mans. And dont bring up Itachis real goals couse cleary Kisame new they were no mach based off his last quote. And dont say Orochimaru is stronger than J man cus hes not. Mabe back in the sunnin days but not now.

Itachi's secret was only known by the 3rd, Danzo and the two elders not even JMAN knew.. so JMAN wouldnt even understand why Itachi was the way he was

Furthermore, let my throw a theary out there for you.......

How did J man recieve information about the Akasuki. It is known that J man had a someone getting info. He even mentioned it to Tsunade before he left for the Rain village. That person was never named. This is all true. My Theary is that info guy could possibly Itachi. I see no one else fiting the description. Nagato could put up barriors that can alert him as seen with J man. It had to be some one that is close to the organization. Itachi said that a ninja works in the shadows. He did what he could to protect the village.

But thats beside the fact:D pple tride to make an excuse for why he said what he said but their is none. Kisame clearly pointed it out the both will die. the best solution to get to Naruto was to trick J man with a pretty gail than to get into a confertation with one of the legendary Sunnin who wichI will add is pass that title.


You tride to come off pumpus but just made yourself sound bias. THATS ALL. Using Nagato to push your arguments for Itachi , puting him on his level is Flaw. Your Whole argument was a flaw, and the bais ppl that praised your thead are flaw as well. I see throught Fanboy BS. For someone to Sh*t on all the Great shinobi and put them under Itachi when they all great in there own right is Comical ha ha im lmao -_-
You cant fool me man so stfu and know your roll.
 
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STFU Jack and how come someone post a bais thread, the fist ones to reply are so dam, quick to give reps, ~ow man i love man~ fans like you just made an end all point.Well, I'm gesting that you just came frome under a rock so let me inliten you. Madara lost to the 1st. If he didnt, if could own the 1st then why in Blue Hell does madara keep sayin that he is a cheap shell of is former self. Oh I know I know!!!! Because the 1st molly waped his ass thats way.. Madara might have stole His Dna but beat the facked that lost. With that said, Minato onwed hi in 3 seconds an I know that Madara ran away but I garen~ da^m ~te that if Minato was alive right now he would be stoping Magara right now but He left that up to his son. And Itachi said it himself that he never thought that he would have to use Shisus Eye( that Shisu gave to him and never fought with) in that perdicument.



Thats stupid of you to say - A Dua- Why would he send one to take on two beast by himself. You brag on Kabuto so much why would he do that. Let me give you some info on Kabuto Jack. The Third riakage is better used taking out amys of shinobi. Kabuto new the thirds abillities are bast for that. His best option was to use the Sharingan and Rinnagan together to overwelm Naruto and bee.




Madara said that he couldnt defeat Itach??? wheres that proff? Nowhere cos he never said it and were does madara say that he lost on purpose aginst the fist. he said"The true winner is he who chose to focus on the future" Hm, Sound like someone who got his ass handed to him would say..... If he lost on purpose then why say you'er a mere shell of your former self. Why say that.





Madara said that he was a shell of his former self, so when he uptained EMS He at his best and still lost and we still dont know His Techs of EMS or Ms so How can Itachi be stronger than them both. Just becouse Hashirama was seen in the early parts of the manga you think hes weaker than Itachi but hes not. We Still dont Now all his techs eather.

""No More""? Realy?

way to make a strong point to end it all there -_- .

STOP USEING NAGATO AS A SCAPEGOAT FOR ITACHI,puting itachi on his level is a FLAGRENT 2 FOWL and should be ejected and find for it. Nagato is one a level of his own, especialy a healthy, revived one. Insted of nocking pple for making thread you shoug go and read a thread. I recomend the Itachi vs Nagato thread, It should educate you on that topic.



Since you are throwing othe great shinobi under the bus, let me tell you that Nagato and itachi gave props to J man. Nagato clearly said that he wouldnt have defeated J man if J man new his secret at the start of the battle.



How come J man can defeat Nagato, but you put him under the boat and put Itach on the level with Nagato wich hes not

It would be true Cus If J man had known the secret, he would have used the Sage toad ginjutsu on all of them at once.(something tsukuyomi cant do).

and Itachi said this.......

Kisame: "You can fight how and where you want, but I don't know... the time is wrong."
Itachi: "Ah. To meet those two and kill them. It's a good place to fight. So they can't augment the number of people they have."
Kisame: "It was good that we found him at the Ramen shop. But he's protected by one of the legendary three ninjas. That guy might be a match for the first of the leaf and one of the mist's seven strongest."
Itachi: "Ah, but... It's said that every strong man has a weakness"​

the Naruto anime depicks it much more.

Kisame: "While you may be able to manage agianst him, I couldnt passibbly..."
"He's on a completely different level..."
Itachi: " Yea, if we go at each other, we'll either be killed at best, or be killed simultaniously." " Even if we increased the numbers the outcome wouldn't change."
Kisame: " With him as an opponent, the names os the Leaf Village Uchiha Clan and the seven swordsmen of the mist would be tarnished."
Itachi: " However, it is said that everything has a weakness."

This is basicly sayin that J man is stronger than them both and Itachi clearly pointed out later in the manga that J mans weakness is women. Since it is clear that Itachi is a Ginus, He did the math in his head and based off his abillities and the onknown of J mans. And dont bring up Itachis real goals couse cleary Kisame new they were no mach based off his last quote. And dont say Orochimaru is stronger than J man cus hes not. Mabe back in the sunnin days but not now.



Furthermore, let my throw a theary out there for you.......

How did J man recieve information about the Akasuki. It is known that J man had a someone getting info. He even mentioned it to Tsunade before he left for the Rain village. That person was never named. This is all true. My Theary is that info guy could possibly Itachi. I see no one else fiting the description. Nagato could put up barriors that can alert him as seen with J man. It had to be some one that is close to the organization. Itachi said that a ninja works in the shadows. He did what he could to protect the village.

But thats beside the fact:D pple tride to make an excuse for why he said what he said but their is none. Kisame clearly pointed it out the both will die. the best solution to get to Naruto was to trick J man with a pretty gail than to get into a confertation with one of the legendary Sunnin who wichI will add is pass that title.


You tride to come off pumpus but just made yourself sound bias. THATS ALL. Using Nagato to push your arguments for Itachi , puting him on his level is Flaw. Your Whole argument was a flaw, and the bais ppl that praised your thead are flaw as well. I see throught Fanboy BS. For someone to Sh*t on all the Great shinobi and put them under Itachi when they all great in there own right is Comical ha ha im lmao -_-
You cant fool me man so stfu and know your roll.

yeah thats why i didn't even take this thread seriously because you could've tell this kid was a huge itachi fanboy, and all the praise he got is also from itachi fanboys.

he really should go read the itachi vs nagato thread
 

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yeah thats why i didn't even take this thread seriously because you could've tell this kid was a huge itachi fanboy, and all the praise he got is also from itachi fanboys.

he really should go read the itachi vs nagato thread

I know man
 
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STFU Jack and how come someone post a bais thread, the fist ones to reply are so dam, quick to give reps, ~ow man i love man~ fans like you just made an end all point.Well, I'm gesting that you just came frome under a rock so let me inliten you. Madara lost to the 1st. If he didnt, if could own the 1st then why in Blue Hell does madara keep sayin that he is a cheap shell of is former self. Oh I know I know!!!! Because the 1st molly waped his ass thats way.. Madara might have stole His Dna but beat the facked that lost. With that said, Minato onwed hi in 3 seconds an I know that Madara ran away but I garen~ da^m ~te that if Minato was alive right now he would be stoping Magara right now but He left that up to his son. And Itachi said it himself that he never thought that he would have to use Shisus Eye( that Shisu gave to him and never fought with) in that perdicument.

Nice to know 'you love man' LOL

Did Madara lose, is just an assumption, from all fans. He could have lost or won, we don't know the truth unless shown. We didn't even know, Madara exist, but yet he did, we didn't know he was resonsbile for the Kyuubi attack but yet he was (we were shown these). So, did the 1st really win? We don't know, and it is safe to assume that if the Madara was a former shell so was the first from this battle, now you are overhyping the 1st like if he took Madara out with ease. As far as, we heard the myth goes the 1st bested Madara, but is the myth really true? We have not heard personally from Hashirama, "I've killed/defeated Madara." but heard the myth from other people who were born 50-100 years after that battle. If we see Tobi a live and the 1st dead (we also see Tobi with the 1st body), as an assumption he outsmarted Hashirama, or there is a missing piece in the puzzle. Minato outsmarted Tobi, but remember this Tobi was fighting to just suck him into his S-T diemension thing, with his Sharingan and controlling the Kyuubi at the same time.

Thats stupid of you to say - A Dua- Why would he send one to take on two beast by himself. You brag on Kabuto so much why would he do that. Let me give you some info on Kabuto Jack. The Third riakage is better used taking out amys of shinobi. Kabuto new the thirds abillities are bast for that. His best option was to use the Sharingan and Rinnagan together to overwelm Naruto and bee.

Just No. I don't even want to get started with this.

Madara said that he couldnt defeat Itach??? wheres that proff? Nowhere cos he never said it and were does madara say that he lost on purpose aginst the fist. he said"The true winner is he who chose to focus on the future" Hm, Sound like someone who got his ass handed to him would say..... If he lost on purpose then why say you'er a mere shell of your former self. Why say that.

Tobi, didn't say Itachi, would beat him but he said if Itachi knew about his abilities, the same thing Pein said about Jiriaya than Tobi would have been dead. Go look up after Itachi VS Sasuke battle, when Tobi is speaking with Sasuke, he mentioned it there.

Madara said that he was a shell of his former self, so when he uptained EMS He at his best and still lost and we still dont know His Techs of EMS or Ms so How can Itachi be stronger than them both. Just becouse Hashirama was seen in the early parts of the manga you think hes weaker than Itachi but hes not. We Still dont Now all his techs eather.

""No More""? Realy?

way to make a strong point to end it all there -_- .

STOP USEING NAGATO AS A SCAPEGOAT FOR ITACHI,puting itachi on his level is a FLAGRENT 2 FOWL and should be ejected and find for it. Nagato is one a level of his own, especialy a healthy, revived one. Insted of nocking pple for making thread you shoug go and read a thread. I recomend the Itachi vs Nagato thread, It should educate you on that topic.

We haven't seen the full Madara or Hashirama and you indicate Nagato was under Edo, also that he was crippled so he haven't seen his full potential, but are you forgetting, Itachi was suffering from a disease which has nothing to do with his eyes, you can't take pills to prolong your life and life can't be taken from losing your sight.

A weakend Itachi was stated by Kabuto, that he was on another level compared to the rest (he could be speaking of Edo or overall, don't know but that will be assumption by others). Tobi indicated after Itachi's death, "My biggest problem is out of the way." Self explanatory, Itachi is someone on a whole new level is he beyond Nagato? Tobi/Madara? Hashirama? Minato level? That will all just be assumtion from a fans, point of view.

Since you are throwing othe great shinobi under the bus, let me tell you that Nagato and itachi gave props to J man. Nagato clearly said that he wouldnt have defeated J man if J man new his secret at the start of the battle.

Ok, Tobi said the same thing about Itachi.





and Itachi said this.......


Kisame: "You can fight how and where you want, but I don't know... the time is wrong."
Itachi: "Ah. To meet those two and kill them. It's a good place to fight. So they can't augment the number of people they have."
Kisame: "It was good that we found him at the Ramen shop. But he's protected by one of the legendary three ninjas. That guy might be a match for the first of the leaf and one of the mist's seven strongest."
Itachi: "Ah, but... It's said that every strong man has a weakness"

the Naruto anime depicks it much more.

Kisame: "While you may be able to manage agianst him, I couldnt passibbly..."
"He's on a completely different level..."
Itachi: " Yea, if we go at each other, we'll either be killed at best, or be killed simultaniously." " Even if we increased the numbers the outcome wouldn't change."
Kisame: " With him as an opponent, the names os the Leaf Village Uchiha Clan and the seven swordsmen of the mist would be tarnished."
Itachi: " However, it is said that everything has a weakness."

This is basicly sayin that J man is stronger than them both and Itachi clearly pointed out later in the manga that J mans weakness is women. Since it is clear that Itachi is a Ginus, He did the math in his head and based off his abillities and the onknown of J mans. And dont bring up Itachis real goals couse cleary Kisame new they were no mach based off his last quote. And dont say Orochimaru is stronger than J man cus hes not. Mabe back in the sunnin days but not now.

I don't want to even get involved in this, reply.

There is no 100% gurantee if they were talking about Jiriaya of if they weren't, so quit thinking your right on this. Kisame and Itachi spoke of he/him being able to kill both of them but after that Kisame states, "Isn't his care taker the legendary Sannin Jiriaya?" so, everyone is just assuming who there are talking about, but after they fled Kisame asked Itachi was retreat nesscary, so read the mang clearly please. I'm not saying they aren't talking about Jiriaya but also doesn't mean they were.

You tride to come off pumpus but just made yourself sound bias. THATS ALL. Using Nagato to push your arguments for Itachi , puting him on his level is Flaw. Your Whole argument was a flaw, and the bais ppl that praised your thead are flaw as well. I see throught Fanboy BS. For someone to Sh*t on all the Great shinobi and put them under Itachi when they all great in there own right is Comical ha ha im lmao -_-
You cant fool me man so and know your roll.

He did turn out to be bias, not disagreeing with that but your entire statement is no better and bias in many ways.

End of story.
 

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how so?

not really but can itachi beat him its possible IMO

I think you two may be a bit blind. It was in the recent manga where he found Nagato's 6 Path's weakness AND the weakness of Chibaku Tensei AND managed to seal him, all in just seconds. This is from someone who has never fought a Rinnegan user. To say that Nagato is "above" Itachi is just ridiculous.

You know what's really funny? Kabuto was in control of Nagato, Kabuto is more intelligent than Nagato, he even utilized Nagato's skill in a way to capture both Naruto and Bee at the same time. Do not give me the "Nagato is stronger with a mind of his own" bullshit. Kabuto clearly stated that Itachi is far above their level.

You can keep denying what already happened in the manga. Your opinion will not change facts.

And now you'll probably say I'm a fanboy. What does that make you?

Itachi is above Nagato, Clearly.

The above sentence is the best in the whole thread. Simple and comprehensive for even the ten year olds.
 
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I think you two may be a bit blind. It was in the recent manga where he found Nagato's 6 Path's weakness AND the weakness of Chibaku Tensei AND managed to seal him, all in just seconds. This is from someone who has never fought a Rinnegan user. To say that Nagato is "above" Itachi is just ridiculous.

You know what's really funny? Kabuto was in control of Nagato, Kabuto is more intelligent than Nagato, he even utilized Nagato's skill in a way to capture both Naruto and Bee at the same time. Do not give me the "Nagato is stronger with a mind of his own" bullshit. Kabuto clearly stated that Itachi is far above their level.

You can keep denying what already happened in the manga. Your opinion will not change facts.

And now you'll probably say I'm a fanboy. What does that make you?



The above sentence is the best in the whole thread. Simple and comprehensive for even the ten year olds.

dude did i say nagato was above itachi no i was disagreeing with the guy saying that he is "clearly" above nagato, i pretty much meant to say its not that simple but however I believe that in a fight i would think that itachi would win but not overwhelmingly in my opinion.
 

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I think you two may be a bit blind. It was in the recent manga where he found Nagato's 6 Path's weakness AND the weakness of Chibaku Tensei AND managed to seal him, all in just seconds. This is from someone who has never fought a Rinnegan user. To say that Nagato is "above" Itachi is just ridiculous.

You know what's really funny? Kabuto was in control of Nagato, Kabuto is more intelligent than Nagato, he even utilized Nagato's skill in a way to capture both Naruto and Bee at the same time. Do not give me the "Nagato is stronger with a mind of his own" bullshit. Kabuto clearly stated that Itachi is far above their level.

You can keep denying what already happened in the manga. Your opinion will not change facts.

And now you'll probably say I'm a fanboy. What does that make you?



The above sentence is the best in the whole thread. Simple and comprehensive for even the ten year olds.

are you corrupted and also i bet you think since orochimaru smart he used the first and second well against the third.
so you really think someone controlling you is better than using an experience user who knows his own abilties the best.
what happened in the manga shishu genjutsu which saved itachi and it took 3 srank ninja to take down a controlled edo tensa rinnegan user.
the last time i checked it took tailed beast bomb super powered rasen shuriken and itachi own long range tech of susanno to stop chikabi tensa.

as much as you want to say that a 3vs1 macth shows itachi is better than nagato, it's not a good way to support itachi.
lol:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
 
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