Itachi and Nagato CANT be compared...

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shawnd is making sense!!! take THAT nagato vs itachi threads!!!

ems is stronger than rinnegan.. oh really? sometimes some people should just re-read something xd

shawnd is making sense u hav got to be kidding me there are several ppl who are on the lvl of these two, madara is above them, naruto and ems sasuke probably close to them and would surpass them soon(pretty obvious), Minato can beat nagato or itachi depending on the situation, thir raikage is obviously on that power range after he took on a beast and tied with it but only becus of his own tech(crazy), hashirama( due to great feats), hiruzen, we have no proof but the guy is called god of shinobi, strongest kage of generation so he might be a contender also. There are clearly ppl on their lvl but ppl like shawnd just can't see that


what can u do man certain ppl believe ems is after all the statements in the manga.
 

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I was hoping for once shawnd would create a thread that was truly factual but once again your reputation proceeds you. Madara NEVER and i repeat NEVER said he threw it in those words at all as he said it was a battle to get the 1st dna but doesnt mean he didnt try to kill him. why would madara let himself get beat up to the point as he said becoming a shell og his former self. dont ever and i repeat EVER put words into his mouth.
 

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itachi can take out more then 1 person. his sharingan is magnificent. applied with his brains itachi could take em out. and rinnegan is not the most powerful eye. its the ems. the rinnegan can only take u so far. but the uchiha sharingan continues to make you progress quickly. and all sharingan users have long battles. itachi would figure out the secret. once he gets pain down to 1 person its over. tysuyomi time. bam xd you also saw how itachi took out all those summonings instantly . the only way to defeat itachi is to were him down. this man survived sasukes kirin. and stood back up. he never fought anyone with the intent to kill. this DUDE TOOK OUT THE WHOLE UCHIHA CLAN BY HIMSELF. except for 2. danzou was so scared of em that danzou didnt touch sasuke. cuz he knew itachis warning. juss remember the sharingans power is limitless U_U

Sorry bro, It's already been stated that Rinnegan IS the ultimate doujutsu and that Nagato was the strongest one in Akatsuki. Should probably go back and reread it.
 
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Sharingan is not limitless. Itachi said that all jutsu have weaknesses. Sharingan is a doujutsu, therefore, it has at least one weakness.

I could have interpreted what he said wrong, of course. xd
 

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Don't bring Sasuke into the Thread when It doesn't say his name here.

Itachi Beat Nagato.
Itachi has more intelligence
Nagato Doesn't
Itachi is more strategic
Nagato is all out Offense attacks
Some morons decide to post excuses like "Nagato is IMMORTAAAL! He has a Rinnengan"
Well, an Expert with a Pebble can beat a Novice with a Gun
Just like how Itachi beat Nagato with a one hit from Susano'o, Oh and it's not Nagato controlling himself. It's Kabuto.
In Intelligence: Itachi > Kabuto/ Kabuto > Nagato.
The End.

EMS IS stronger (depending on Who's) than Rinnengan.
One user with the EMS can spam attacks whenever they want. But it depends on the User's Ability. For Example: Kakashi. All he would be able to spam is a Different Dimension Portal.
Sasuke could keep on Spamming Amaterasu and Susano'o, Therefore. The user's Sharingan ability Stronger,
 
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Don't bring Sasuke into the Thread when It doesn't say his name here.

Itachi Beat Nagato.
Itachi has more intelligence
Nagato Doesn't
Itachi is more strategic
Nagato is all out Offense attacks
Some morons decide to post excuses like "Nagato is IMMORTAAAL! He has a Rinnengan"
Well, an Expert with a Pebble can beat a Novice with a Gun
Just like how Itachi beat Nagato with a one hit from Susano'o, Oh and it's not Nagato controlling himself. It's Kabuto.
In Intelligence: Itachi > Kabuto/ Kabuto > Nagato.
The End.

no dude its not that simple intelligence is important but u make it seem like itachi owns him which would never happen have you not seen nagato's powers shinra tensei, chibaku tensei, summonings he is very powerful and not an easy fight for either side. I personally think itachi would win but the way u put it is totally off. And how is kabuto better than nagato.
 

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Sorry bro, It's already been stated that Rinnegan IS the ultimate doujutsu and that Nagato was the strongest one in Akatsuki. Should probably go back and reread it.

It also stated "Amaterasu is impossible to dodge" yet raikage dodged it.

Just because somebody in the manga sais something . dosent always make it true.

And just because someone is stronger than someone else, dosen't mean they can beat them. Wasent madara in the Akatsuki, yet people say nagato is the strongest in akatsuki. Even if nagato was what you people say "Stronger". Madara can just send nagato to another dimension with space/time technique
 

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It also stated "Amaterasu is impossible to dodge" yet raikage dodged it.

Just because somebody in the manga sais something . dosent always make it true.

And just because someone is stronger than someone else, dosen't mean they can beat them. Wasent madara in the Akatsuki, yet people say nagato is the strongest in akatsuki. Even if nagato was what you people say "Stronger". Madara can just send nagato to another dimension with space/time technique

nice to see u back man and yes what u said is true strongest is not equal to winning shikamaru proved that, and so does minato.
 

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nice to see u back man and yes what u said is true strongest is not equal to winning shikamaru proved that, and so does minato.

thanks,nice to be back, and yea people automatically assume just becuz someone is "Stronger" they automatically win which is wrong. And you are right, Shikamaru proved that plenty of times.
 

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Don't bring Sasuke into the Thread when It doesn't say his name here.

Itachi Beat Nagato.
Itachi has more intelligence
Nagato Doesn't
Itachi is more strategic
Nagato is all out Offense attacks
Some morons decide to post excuses like "Nagato is IMMORTAAAL! He has a Rinnengan"
Well, an Expert with a Pebble can beat a Novice with a Gun
Just like how Itachi beat Nagato with a one hit from Susano'o, Oh and it's not Nagato controlling himself. It's Kabuto.
In Intelligence: Itachi > Kabuto/ Kabuto > Nagato.
The End.

EMS IS stronger (depending on Who's) than Rinnengan.
One user with the EMS can spam attacks whenever they want. But it depends on the User's Ability. For Example: Kakashi. All he would be able to spam is a Different Dimension Portal.
Sasuke could keep on Spamming Amaterasu and Susano'o, Therefore. The user's Sharingan ability Stronger,

*Face palm* Itachi fanboys =/
 

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someone said itachi wasn't stronger than nagato and i disagree...
intelligence trumps raw power/doujutsu....
if itachi could just seal away nagato with susano'o he can't be unstoppable...
and the third raikage thing is so not an argument now....
 

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someone said itachi wasn't stronger than nagato and i disagree...
intelligence trumps raw power/doujutsu....
if itachi could just seal away nagato with susano'o he can't be unstoppable...
and the third raikage thing is so not an argument now....

do you relize that nagato can just absorb susanno and then take itachi soul
 

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do you relize that nagato can just absorb susanno and then take itachi soul

u seriously make it so easy that its funny like itachi is waiting nagato to go and absorb the susano ppl can also say stuff like tsukiyomi and its over but i doubt its going to be that simple between top tier ninja and just saying itachi can use tsukiyomi or seal nagato with his sword of totsuka if nagato tries to absorb it. The fight is not as easy as u say man both sides would have it hard.
 

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u seriously make it so easy that its funny like itachi is waiting nagato to go and absorb the susano ppl can also say stuff like tsukiyomi and its over but i doubt its going to be that simple between top tier ninja and just saying itachi can use tsukiyomi or seal nagato with his sword of totsuka if nagato tries to absorb it. The fight is not as easy as u say man both sides would have it hard.

im saying it's useless to begin with do you want itachi to suffer in susanno with his chakra level he's pratically giving nagato free chakra
 

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im saying it's useless to begin with do you want itachi to suffer in susanno with his chakra level he's pratically giving nagato free chakra

he has to be near him to absorb susano he is not giving free chakra idk what ur trying to say, Itachi has a decent amount of chakra did u not see him in sasuke vs itachi where he used amaterasu on the whole ground, used fire style ninjutsu, used genjutsu multiple times including tsukiyomi once and still used sussano and its powers, i don't think itachi is just gonna lose all his chakra as soon he enters sussano
 

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Nah nagato alone completely dominated both naruto KM and bee at the same time. Each with one hand. SO nah nagato was shown to be WAY WAY WAY past those twos level. Itachi beat nagato so itachi is definitely way past bee and naruto. As for EMS sasuke we havent even seen him yet. So dont judge people on their appearances or your preconceptions. Honestly i have said this before and i will say this again. Minato was great and all but he is no itachi and no nagato. The elder frogs stated when naruto was about to fight pein that naruto had surpassed minato and jiraya. And kakashi stated that naruto surpassed his rasengan. Sage naruto has surpassed minato. If kyuubi mode naruto was owned by nagato even with the help of bee then nagato is clearly much stronger then minato. Itachi is also clearly stronger than minato too :p
lol

And i almost completely agree with you, except they arent invincible. KM Naruto and EMS Sasuke MAY have surpassed them. And Minato beat Madara too so yea i agree with u, these 2 are stronger than any past kage, except the 4th hokage because if Kabuto cud of brought back the 4th then idk what he wud of said about him, but u see, he cant. So basically what i am saying is that Minato is at their lvl and cud probably take either one and so far we know EMS Sasuke shud be stronger, he has the same powers as Itachi, and KM Naruto is probably hella strong too! But yea, as for the 3rd Raikage and Muu, etc, they cant beat Itachi or Nagato.
 

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lol ur right. And let me ask u this lol. U say he will absorb totsuka huh? well why didnt he do that in this fight then? huh? how was he hit? that is proof enough that with itachis keen intellect and perfect timing even if nagato could do what ur saying he can do its useless. Itachi definitely outplayed nagato in that fight. He found all nagatos weaknesses and exposed them. In seconds. Lol how didnt he beat nagato? nagato is the 2nd strongest ninja we know of as of now. Itachi is the first. Madara is somewhere there. I dont know enough about his power to say anything. And this thread is absolutely right. Every word of it. I ****ing hate how they keep doing vs threads against nagato and itachi. They are stronger than any other character u are trying to vs them against. The fact u are always trying to compare ur favorite characters to itachi and nagato is proof enough that they are the strongest in teh series and even u know it. And the ****ing bullshit with Itachis low chakra has got to stop. Jesus christ a walking corpse itachi who is only alive because of medication. He is basically on his death bed holding on to his last seconds of life and ALSO COMPLETELY BLIND AND COLOR BLIND outlasted sasuke and killed orochimaru in the proccess. He outlasted sasuke by far. lol if a walking corpse was able to outlast sasuke then what about an itachi who is in his prime?
he has to be near him to absorb susano he is not giving free chakra idk what ur trying to say, Itachi has a decent amount of chakra did u not see him in sasuke vs itachi where he used amaterasu on the whole ground, used fire style ninjutsu, used genjutsu multiple times including tsukiyomi once and still used sussano and its powers, i don't think itachi is just gonna lose all his chakra as soon he enters sussano
 
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Nah nagato alone completely dominated both naruto KM and bee at the same time. Each with one hand. SO nah nagato was shown to be WAY WAY WAY past those twos level. Itachi beat nagato so itachi is definitely way past bee and naruto. As for EMS sasuke we havent even seen him yet. So dont judge people on their appearances or your preconceptions. Honestly i have said this before and i will say this again. Minato was great and all but he is no itachi and no nagato. The elder frogs stated when naruto was about to fight pein that naruto had surpassed minato and jiraya. And kakashi stated that naruto surpassed his rasengan. Sage naruto has surpassed minato. If kyuubi mode naruto was owned by nagato even with the help of bee then nagato is clearly much stronger then minato. Itachi is also clearly stronger than minato too :p

naruto world does not work that simply if u beat a character doesn't mean that someone else is gonna lose to u. Do u think bee would lose to guy since he beat kisame, no its not always that simple, minato has the capability to beat both of them he is way too fast he pretty much almost killed bee and while A was trying to kill him. The guy is way too fast and one marking or kunai near his opponent is almost instant death and itachi and nagato can lose to that.
 

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he has to be near him to absorb susano he is not giving free chakra idk what ur trying to say, Itachi has a decent amount of chakra did u not see him in sasuke vs itachi where he used amaterasu on the whole ground, used fire style ninjutsu, used genjutsu multiple times including tsukiyomi once and still used sussano and its powers, i don't think itachi is just gonna lose all his chakra as soon he enters sussano

so are you saying itachi going to run away when he's in susanno just kiling himself.
itachi chakra level's are low so him running away in susanno is just a waste of time.
 

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lol ur right. And let me ask u this lol. U say he will absorb totsuka huh? well why didnt he do that in this fight then? huh? how was he hit? that is proof enough that with itachis keen intellect and perfect timing even if nagato could do what ur saying he can do its useless. Itachi definitely outplayed nagato in that fight. He found all nagatos weaknesses and exposed them. In seconds. Lol how didnt he beat nagato? nagato is the 2nd strongest ninja we know of as of now. Itachi is the first. Madara is somewhere there. I dont know enough about his power to say anything. And this thread is absolutely right. Every word of it. I ****ing hate how they keep doing vs threads against nagato and itachi. They are stronger than any other character u are trying to vs them against. The fact u are always trying to compare ur favorite characters to itachi and nagato is proof enough that they are the strongest in teh series and even u know it

why are u talking about irrelevant things, i did not say sword of totsuka can be absorbed because and u start going off about it. For one nagato did not absorb it so it might not be absorbed and tthe fact that it is a tool that has fuinjutsu powers meaning not genjutsu is also indicating it cannot be absorbed. don't talk about things i did not even state pls.
 
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