[Discussion] the strongest of the strong,

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technically neither, Gogeta is the strongest in the series (if you count GT and fusions) and without fusions then "Mystic Gohan" was the strongest non-fused saiyan at the end of the series.

but goku is almost always better then vegeta.
Not Really.The end of the series happend 10 years after Buu saga.Gohan after buu is a nerd reading books ... while goku trained everyday to become the stongest so technicaly goku was stronger in the end of the series
 

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technically neither, Gogeta is the strongest in the series (if you count GT and fusions) and without fusions then "Mystic Gohan" was the strongest non-fused saiyan at the end of the series.

but goku is almost always better then vegeta.
you're wrong. As for non-fused saiyans Broly is by far the strongest in ANY stage ( normal , ssj1 etc ) Since broly is a Movie character we're going back to normals. Goku is the strongest between them all ( i hate him vegeta's much cooler )

And again mystic Gohan surpassed them for a moment, remember every saiyan gets stronger after big injury or death. Vegeta surpassed him at that point when he got back.

So the real order is like this :

1. Goku ( broly if u count him )
2. Vegeta ( goku is broly counts )
3. Gohan ( vegeta if broly counts )
4. Trunks ( Gohan if broly counts )
5. Goten ( Trunks if broly counts )
6. Pan ( Goten if broly counts )

Those are facts. If you count Fusions, then Gogeta is on top of it.

before you try to argue about vegeta and gohan's spot where i put them just think logically, vegeta would eventually outsmart him and he is overal way more experienced fighter than gohan so he will beat the crap of out him.

Oh and btw, vegeta is the best tactician. Reason is because he's the best in making longterm plans ( check out freeza saga where he was planning on getting the dragonballs )
 

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you're wrong. As for non-fused saiyans Broly is by far the strongest in ANY stage ( normal , ssj1 etc ) Since broly is a Movie character we're going back to normals. Goku is the strongest between them all ( i hate him vegeta's much cooler )

And again mystic Gohan surpassed them for a moment, remember every saiyan gets stronger after big injury or death. Vegeta surpassed him at that point when he got back.

So the real order is like this :

1. Goku ( broly if u count him )
2. Vegeta ( goku is broly counts )
3. Gohan ( vegeta if broly counts )
4. Trunks ( Gohan if broly counts )
5. Goten ( Trunks if broly counts )
6. Pan ( Goten if broly counts )

Those are facts. If you count Fusions, then Gogeta is on top of it.

before you try to argue about vegeta and gohan's spot where i put them just think logically, vegeta would eventually outsmart him and he is overal way more experienced fighter than gohan so he will beat the crap of out him.

Oh and btw, vegeta is the best tactician. Reason is because he's the best in making longterm plans ( check out freeza saga where he was planning on getting the dragonballs )
This is a thread about who the strongest is, Please only pick 1 or 2 characters from the following, list i provided Vegeta or goku,
 

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Not Really.The end of the series happend 10 years after Buu saga.Gohan after buu is a nerd reading books ... while goku trained everyday to become the stongest so technicaly goku was stronger in the end of the series
there are a ton of people who read books, that doesn't make them nerds, :lili:
 
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