Itachi vs Pain

Itachi vs Nagato

  • Itachi

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Ok so ur Itachi i am Pain, lets take it from the start, u make ur first move.
oh god with this again kno we r gonna keep arguing and get nowhere both can win, i see itachi winning u see pain winning.

but if u wanna do it so bad this is what we'll do this is like naruto vs 6 paths right so my first move even though itachi wold not do it like this would be to immobilize tendo pain with 1 tsukiyomi. but right there we wud get in a whole argument again.
 

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u guys r saying genjutsu doesn't work when it did, it can disturb their chakra and itachi can use that opening to beat the most troublesome one which is tendo pain, with susano. Amaterasu can get everyone it is fast and if preta ever tried to absorb itachi can deal that with sword or taijutsu. He just has to immobilize or sloow tendo pain which he can do with one tsukiyomi itachi is smart he knos who is powerful and who to get, and afterwards one amaterasu can send multiple fires like he did b4 and get other paths except preta and preta can be sealed or attacked by taijutsu. Itachi would be tired after the fight, he is a genius and can also make use of clones very well and can easily get tendo with genjutsu and get the rest with amaterasu and susano. he will be exhausted but he can win.
suanoo would not be able to kill tendo like that it cant seal him because its a dead body,amateseru would not get everyone be realistic and the ones it did get can be revived easily.His chakra is getting low tysukami would work on one pain and that would be the end of his chakra maybe he would be able to use one more MS tec but he would most likely die and what good would it do because hes killed at best 2 or 3 providing he can beat the summons stop preta from absorbing his susanoo its just to much to ask with his stamnia
 

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suanoo would not be able to kill tendo like that it cant seal him because its a dead body,amateseru would not get everyone be realistic and the ones it did get can be revived easily.His chakra is getting low tysukami would work on one pain and that would be the end of his chakra maybe he would be able to use one more MS tec but he would most likely die and what good would it do because hes killed at best 2 or 3 providing he can beat the summons stop preta from absorbing his susanoo its just to much to ask with his stamnia
no he has more chakra than that see sasuke vs itachi he spammed so many techs. if he gets tendo in tsukiyomi he can crush him with susano's hand. if he takes him out the battle is alot simpler since he can get all the others with amaterasu in one go as he had shown in ch550 and no they cannot dodge it, they have not seen such feats and preta would be either sealed or can be hurt by taijutsu. But if the paths play a hide and seek like they did with jiraya itachi would likely lose.
 

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yawn* just woke up...its seems we have some new comers in this debate, ill just grab me a coffee and reply to you peps.
lol we're done arguing. WE all know their both one of the most Strongest,talented shinobi in existance

NAruto cant even beat pain, actually pain beat him, until the fox interfered, so that proves pain is crrazy strong to even be able to survive that, let alone,give the fox almost a hard time.

And Itachi owned naruto plenty of times, without even trying to kill him, actually naruto cant even touch itachi, never has.

But of course naruto owns all, theres no shame in losing to the main character. But these charatcer has proven to be able to beat Naruto, Even though naruto always has some kind of unsuspected win lol
 

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no he has more chakra than that see sasuke vs itachi he spammed so many techs. if he gets tendo in tsukiyomi he can crush him with susano's hand. if he takes him out the battle is alot simpler since he can get all the others with amaterasu in one go as he had shown in ch550 and no they cannot dodge it, they have not seen such feats and preta would be either sealed or can be hurt by taijutsu. But if the paths play a hide and seek like they did with jiraya itachi would likely lose.
i counted 4 MS techs in the sasuke fight two amateseru
tysukami would last one second on tendo and it would be toturing a dead body providing it would affect a rinnegan user the full susanoo cant power up just like that now amateseru got his summons not his paths.His summons and preta path would test his susanoo to the limit providing he could survive his chakra from mantaining a full susanoo would be low and he would still have to fight tendo and a few remaining paths you can argue whatever way you like but the fact he has 4 MS techs at his absolute max and you know that isnt enough
 

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lol we're done arguing. WE all know their both one of the most Strongest,talented shinobi in existance

NAruto cant even beat pain, actually pain beat him, until the fox interfered, so that proves pain is crrazy strong to even be able to survive that, let alone,give the fox almost a hard time.

And Itachi owned naruto plenty of times, without even trying to kill him, actually naruto cant even touch itachi, never has.

But of course naruto owns all, theres no shame in losing to the main character. But these charatcer has proven to be able to beat Naruto, Even though naruto always has some kind of unsuspected win lol
yeah he captured naruto twice in sage mode and captured the 9 tails once and naruto had help and knowledge and he still didnt kill nagato.
 

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How would he be able to cut off the Chakra, if he's already shitting his pants in Tsukiyomi. YOu can't do anything in Tskiyomi, And plus its ONLY A Second, and nagato would be dead from Tsukiyomi in a second. And nagato wouldnt even have time to cut off the chakra. Because in reality, Tsukiyomi is an Instant Death.
im sure we touched up on this subject already, anways....if nagato could be effected by itachis genjutsu, im confused why he never used it in the fight with him and narubee as it would logically end the fight from what some say? itachi's style when in a fight usually always starts off with genjutsu based jutsu's *this was not thie case this time* but then having to fully utilize his fully formed susanoo to take him on which i might add is itachi's strongest jutsu in his arsenal of tec's...makes me believe tsukiyomi is useless in this situation.

Solution to deva is genjutsu. Deva is the first Itachi should attack. Also chibaku tensei is almost self-sacrifice seeing as though all the other paths might die as a result. And if it comes to it I'm pretty sure Itachi can just use 3 yasaka magatamas to destroy chibaku tensei
1) 3 yasaka magatamas is impossible for itachi, his eyes and body are strained while using Susanoo because it consumes a large amount of his chakra. already using a large amount of chakra to sustain susanoo's fully formed state, and then using additional chakra to perform that jutsu is alot of chakra drainage, i doubt he would have enough for two of those let alone 3 ym itachi is amazing but not that amazing.

Animal paths are useless because of Amaterasu and totsuka.
2) i disagree, just like the paths there summoning can be revived. and there extra pair of eyes grants them multiple fields of vision from the air and all over the ground also corresponding with the already vision advantage.

You show me where it is said that Tsukuyomi can't affect Nagato. That's right u can't!! So I just show u basic logi that shows it can be casted on more than one person and ur brain can't comprehend cos d only thing there is NAGATO!!!
3) ummm, you cant be showing logic when you cant spell logic my friend, and vice versa, theres no manga proof that states it works on rinnegan users, you need to stop feeding off others debating pwn's and bring something plausible to the table instead of sitting in the side lines yelling *take that*.

Genjutsu will affect the REAL Nagato, since his mind is shared with all the bodies. He's the brains behind the bodies, so the genjutsu will affect the "Brain of the bodies.

And if he cut of the chakra to his bodies, then they will be motionless and fall , and Itachi can just disenegrate them.

And ONLY 1 Genjutsu is strong enough to break Edo Tensei, Kabuto already said ONLY Shisui's kotoamatuski is strong enough to break Edo tensei.

So of course Itachi couldnt use Genjutsu since his is NOT Stronger than Shisui's. Only 1 Genjutsu can break EDo tensei, And Itachi Dosent Have That Genjutsu (Kotoamatuski) SO thats why genjutsu wasent an option for Itachi, otherwise nagato wouldve been in one from the start, and sealed him before he even tried to counter it.

4) theres some flaws in your comment, itachi's mind is a distance away, he is controlling them no doubt, but by no means is his mind in there head, even so, where on earth would itachi get his chakra and stamina from to perform such a feat? he tired himself out casting his genjutsu on itachi in pt1 when it was only a short distance, and if he can cast genjutsu on a mindless *i should really say brainless* body then why not do the same thing with kabuto since he takes complete control of nagato, nagato only needs to stop the feed of chakra to one path only if its possible to get caught in itachi's genjutsu for 1 second, if itachi uses amterasu, nagato would surely sense the build up in chakra...and i might add dont take 1 second to execute *talking about amaterasu*

6 path Pain is considerably weaker since Naruto could take them down with a simple rasenshuriken or frog kata. Itachi is a taijutsu master and has yasaka magatama (which is more than likely = to rasenshuriken and TBB in strength).

The summons are useless against Itachi since he can easily blind them with his kunai like he did last chapter. Then all he has to do is Amaterasu or Totsuka seal them when they can't see or defend from an attack. Also Itachi's Sharingan can predict movement so the summons would never reach him since Itachi's reflexes are too great.
Also Itachi can use his MS to take control of the summons and make them attack Pain (like Sasuke with Manda)

I'm pretty sure Itachi can make any command with koto amatsukami, he specifically made the "protect konoha" message for Sasuke and programmed Shisui's eye to work against his own eyes.

Also Planet dev's attacks would be considerably weaker when using Pain so it'll be much easier to destroy that black ball.
5) oh heavens, firstly, sharingan can not replace the rinnegan in ones eyes socket let alone his summoning's ones , so void your *itachi can control his summoning's and make them attack pain*...thats like saying itachi can take control nagato's paths replacing there rinnegan with sharingan...laughable right..and remember manda was summoned by sasuke's, if by chance it is possible for itachi can control them *which is highly doubt it * the only thing the summoner has to do is dispel its summoning..they also dodged rasenshuriken, the only reason why the human path got caught in it was because the lack of knowledge on the jutsu, for example it expanding in range.

YOu dont have to get out of Susano'o since Amaterasu appear onto the target, it dosen't travel. Sasuke even Did Amaterasu inside of Susano'o.

But the only way he would win is Kill the "real" nagato. If he cannot do that then pain wins. Or if he can cut them in half, or just cut the revial path in half (Totsuku blade) so that he wont be able to revive anyone or him self.
6)*sigh*...it was noted that itachi was far proficient and versatile with amaterasu....until sasuke surpassed him by doing what itachi cant, manipulate the flames and also change its shape. as long as petra path is in play every ninjutsu based jutsu itachi's uses is useless, also animal path is designed to overwhelm its opponent, with all the multiple summoning's in play *which is 8 summoning's that we know off* that gives him a total off 14 overall field vision, thats far greater than the visual abilities of the byakugan 10 fold, in saying that, he has no chance in attacking naraka path with that much visual range. that gives the deva path enough time to perform chibaku tensei which every one can agree cant be stopped by ether of itachi's jutsu's all MS tecs.

oh god with this again kno we r gonna keep arguing and get nowhere both can win, i see itachi winning u see pain winning.

but if u wanna do it so bad this is what we'll do this is like naruto vs 6 paths right so my first move even though itachi wold not do it like this would be to immobilize tendo pain with 1 tsukiyomi. but right there we wud get in a whole argument again.

7) im going to void the tsukiyomi part as i hate repeating myself, and you cant be serious on basing it on naruto vs pain...let me educate you again on that subject, naruto entered the fully combat ready, he had Katsuyu for intel, ma and pa for consulting, as with his summoning he had additional help, Gamahiro and Gamaken *and no he didn't summon them, ma did* his additional support aided him in taking care of the animals paths summoning, and might i add it wasn't naruto's idea on how to dispose of the animal path, that was Fukasaku idea, naruto with additional support has superior knowledge, where as nagato strategically planned in his own mind set, and might i remind you, nagato at that time was weakened drastically from destroying konoha prior to naruto's entry leaving his deva path vulnerable, he was already weak from combating the entire konha infantry. now, void all things nagato did before naruto entered the battle, you going to say it would end up the same way?

if i missed your reply then let me know and ill reply to it accordingly.
 
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i counted 4 MS techs in the sasuke fight two amateseru
tysukami would last one second on tendo and it would be toturing a dead body providing it would affect a rinnegan user the full susanoo cant power up just like that now amateseru got his summons not his paths.His summons and preta path would test his susanoo to the limit providing he could survive his chakra from mantaining a full susanoo would be low and he would still have to fight tendo and a few remaining paths you can argue whatever way you like but the fact he has 4 MS techs at his absolute max and you know that isnt enough
he was sick back then used an abundant amount of amaterasu, used susano, used a lot of gennjutsu including tsukiyomi and even used one ninjutsu tech that is a lot. that is a lot for even the sick guy and i think that a healthy one can do a little more and IMO can win. We might even see more powers of itachi when he fights kabuto but that is just a guess. dude lets stop i gotta go eat dinner now so i'll cya around later
 

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im sure we touched up on this subject already, anways....if nagato could be effected by itachis genjutsu, im confused why he never used it in the fight with him and narubee as it would logically end the fight from what some say? itachi's style when in a fight usually always starts off with genjutsu based jutsu's *this was not thie case this time* but then having to fully utilize his fully formed susanoo to take him on which i might add is itachi's strongest jutsu in his arsenal of tec's...makes me believe tsukiyomi is useless in this situation.



1) 3 yasaka magatamas is impossible for itachi, his eyes and body are strained while using Susanoo because it consumes a large amount of his chakra. already using a large amount of chakra to sustain susanoo's fully formed state, and then using additional chakra to perform that jutsu is alot of chakra drainage, i doubt he would have enough for two of those let alone 3 ym itachi is amazing but not that amazing.



2) i disagree, just like the paths there summoning can be revived. and there extra pair of eyes grants them multiple fields of vision from the air and all over the ground also corresponding with the already vision advantage.



3) ummm, you cant be showing logic when you cant spell logic my friend, and vice versa, theres no manga proof that states it works on rinnegan users, you need to stop feeding off others debating pwn's and bring something plausible to the table instead of sitting in the side lines yelling *take that*.




4) theres some flaws in your comment, itachi's mind is a distance away, he is controlling them no doubt, but by no means is his mind in there head, even so, where on earth would itachi get his chakra and stamina from to perform such a feat? he tired himself out casting his genjutsu on itachi in pt1 when it was only a short distance, and if he can cast genjutsu on a mindless *i should really say brainless* body then why not do the same thing with kabuto since he takes complete control of nagato, nagato only needs to stop the feed of chakra to one path only if its possible to get caught in itachi's genjutsu for 1 second, if itachi uses amterasu, nagato would surely sense the build up in chakra...and i might add dont take 1 second to execute *talking about amaterasu*



5) oh heavens, firstly, sharingan can not replace the rinnegan in ones eyes socket let alone his summoning's ones , so void your *itachi can control his summoning's and make them attack pain*...thats like saying itachi can take control nagato's paths replacing there rinnegan with sharingan...laughable right..and remember manda was summoned by sasuke's, if by chance it is possible for itachi can control them *which is highly doubt it * the only thing the summoner has to do is..they also dodged rasenshuriken, the only reason why the human path got caught in it was because the lack of knowledge on the jutsu, for example it expanding in range.



6)*sigh*...it was noted that itachi was far proficient and versatile with amaterasu....until sasuke surpassed him by doing what itachi cant, manipulate the flames and also change its shape. as long as petra path is in play every ninjutsu based jutsu itachi's uses is useless, also animal path is designed to overwhelm its opponent, with all the multiple summoning's in play *which is 8 summoning's that we know off* that gives him a total off 14 overall field vision, thats far greater than the visual abilities of the byakugan 10 fold, in saying that, he has no chance in attacking naraka path with that much visual range. that gives the deva path enough time to perform chibaku tensei which every one can agree cant be stopped by ether of itachi's jutsu's all MS tecs.




7) im going to void the tsukiyomi part as i hate repeating myself, and you cant be serious on basing it on naruto vs pain...let me educate you again on that subject, naruto entered the fully combat ready, he had Katsuyu for intel, ma and pa for consulting, as with his summoning he had additional help, Gamahiro and Gamaken *and no he didn't summon them, ma did* his additional support aided him in taking care of the animals paths summoning, and might i add it wasn't naruto's idea on how to dispose of the animal path, that was Fukasaku idea, naruto with additional support has superior knowledge, where as nagato strategically planned in his own mind set, and might i remind you, nagato at that time was weakened drastically from destroying konoha prior to naruto's entry leaving his deva path vulnerable, he was already weak from combating the entire konha infantry. now, void all things nagato did before naruto entered the battle, you going to say it would end up the same way?

if i missed your reply then let me know and ill reply to it accordingly.
just to let u kno i was not talking about naruto vs pain, i didn't mention that there i was sayig that type of setting or formation they had.
 
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he was sick back then used an abundant amount of amaterasu, used susano, used a lot of gennjutsu including tsukiyomi and even used one ninjutsu tech that is a lot. that is a lot for even the sick guy and i think that a healthy one can do a little more and IMO can win. We might even see more powers of itachi when he fights kabuto but that is just a guess. dude lets stop i gotta go eat dinner now so i'll cya around later
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im sure we touched up on this subject already, anways....if nagato could be effected by itachis genjutsu, im confused why he never used it in the fight with him and narubee as it would logically end the fight from what some say? itachi's style when in a fight usually always starts off with genjutsu based jutsu's *this was not thie case this time* but then having to fully utilize his fully formed susanoo to take him on which i might add is itachi's strongest jutsu in his arsenal of tec's...makes me believe tsukiyomi is useless in this situation.



1) 3 yasaka magatamas is impossible for itachi, his eyes and body are strained while using Susanoo because it consumes a large amount of his chakra. already using a large amount of chakra to sustain susanoo's fully formed state, and then using additional chakra to perform that jutsu is alot of chakra drainage, i doubt he would have enough for two of those let alone 3 ym itachi is amazing but not that amazing.



2) i disagree, just like the paths there summoning can be revived. and there extra pair of eyes grants them multiple fields of vision from the air and all over the ground also corresponding with the already vision advantage.



3) ummm, you cant be showing logic when you cant spell logic my friend, and vice versa, theres no manga proof that states it works on rinnegan users, you need to stop feeding off others debating pwn's and bring something plausible to the table instead of sitting in the side lines yelling *take that*.




4) theres some flaws in your comment, itachi's mind is a distance away, he is controlling them no doubt, but by no means is his mind in there head, even so, where on earth would itachi get his chakra and stamina from to perform such a feat? he tired himself out casting his genjutsu on itachi in pt1 when it was only a short distance, and if he can cast genjutsu on a mindless *i should really say brainless* body then why not do the same thing with kabuto since he takes complete control of nagato, nagato only needs to stop the feed of chakra to one path only if its possible to get caught in itachi's genjutsu for 1 second, if itachi uses amterasu, nagato would surely sense the build up in chakra...and i might add dont take 1 second to execute *talking about amaterasu*



5) oh heavens, firstly, sharingan can not replace the rinnegan in ones eyes socket let alone his summoning's ones , so void your *itachi can control his summoning's and make them attack pain*...thats like saying itachi can take control nagato's paths replacing there rinnegan with sharingan...laughable right..and remember manda was summoned by sasuke's, if by chance it is possible for itachi can control them *which is highly doubt it * the only thing the summoner has to do is dispel its summoning..they also dodged rasenshuriken, the only reason why the human path got caught in it was because the lack of knowledge on the jutsu, for example it expanding in range.



6)*sigh*...it was noted that itachi was far proficient and versatile with amaterasu....until sasuke surpassed him by doing what itachi cant, manipulate the flames and also change its shape. as long as petra path is in play every ninjutsu based jutsu itachi's uses is useless, also animal path is designed to overwhelm its opponent, with all the multiple summoning's in play *which is 8 summoning's that we know off* that gives him a total off 14 overall field vision, thats far greater than the visual abilities of the byakugan 10 fold, in saying that, he has no chance in attacking naraka path with that much visual range. that gives the deva path enough time to perform chibaku tensei which every one can agree cant be stopped by ether of itachi's jutsu's all MS tecs.




7) im going to void the tsukiyomi part as i hate repeating myself, and you cant be serious on basing it on naruto vs pain...let me educate you again on that subject, naruto entered the fully combat ready, he had Katsuyu for intel, ma and pa for consulting, as with his summoning he had additional help, Gamahiro and Gamaken *and no he didn't summon them, ma did* his additional support aided him in taking care of the animals paths summoning, and might i add it wasn't naruto's idea on how to dispose of the animal path, that was Fukasaku idea, naruto with additional support has superior knowledge, where as nagato strategically planned in his own mind set, and might i remind you, nagato at that time was weakened drastically from destroying konoha prior to naruto's entry leaving his deva path vulnerable, he was already weak from combating the entire konha infantry. now, void all things nagato did before naruto entered the battle, you going to say it would end up the same way?

if i missed your reply then let me know and ill reply to it accordingly.
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i counted 4 MS techs in the sasuke fight two amateseru
tysukami would last one second on tendo and it would be toturing a dead body providing it would affect a rinnegan user the full susanoo cant power up just like that now amateseru got his summons not his paths.His summons and preta path would test his susanoo to the limit providing he could survive his chakra from mantaining a full susanoo would be low and he would still have to fight tendo and a few remaining paths you can argue whatever way you like but the fact he has 4 MS techs at his absolute max and you know that isnt enough
But dont forget he was very sick,and was coughing up blood, his body was kinda in a poor condition. But he did manage Susano'o for some time though,even managed to use the complete version (Which was unnesecary lol) But dont forget Itachi has Speed too lol he dosent only have MS techniques, but he's pretty good in Ninjutsu and Taijutsu, his taijutsu is better than his ninjutsu. And does his Jutsu remarkabley fast, even kakashi was and kurenai was like "WHAT" i didnt even see any hand signs, "I couldnt even keep up with my sharingan" And itachi wasent even moving barely, yet kakashi nor asuma nor kurenai could touch him.

So itachis ninjutsu might be a little challenge for that chakra absorbing path, since itachi jutsu speed is Fast.

But tendo pain is the most trouble some
 

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just to let u kno i was not talking about naruto vs pain, i didn't mention that there i was sayig that type of setting or formation they had.
I believe the preta path is at the front and the outer path(revival) is at the back tendo in the midddle with the animal and human path flanking him and the asura path at the front to the left and the interrogation path at the back just in front of the outer path
But dont forget he was very sick,and was coughing up blood, his body was kinda in a poor condition. But he did manage Susano'o for some time though,even managed to use the complete version (Which was unnesecary lol) But dont forget Itachi has Speed too lol he dosent only have MS techniques, but he's pretty good in Ninjutsu and Taijutsu, his taijutsu is better than his ninjutsu. And does his Jutsu remarkabley fast, even kakashi was and kurenai was like "WHAT" i didnt even see any hand signs, "I couldnt even keep up with my sharingan" And itachi wasent even moving barely, yet kakashi nor asuma nor kurenai could touch him.

So itachis ninjutsu might be a little challenge for that chakra absorbing path, since itachi jutsu speed is Fast.

But tendo pain is the most trouble some
Dont get me wrong itachi is my second strongest ninja in naruto but in this case it beats itachis strengths like genjutsu and focuses on his weakness like low stamnia.
 

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im sure we touched up on this subject already, anways....if nagato could be effected by itachis genjutsu, im confused why he never used it in the fight with him and narubee as it would logically end the fight from what some say? itachi's style when in a fight usually always starts off with genjutsu based jutsu's *this was not thie case this time* but then having to fully utilize his fully formed susanoo to take him on which i might add is itachi's strongest jutsu in his arsenal of tec's...makes me believe tsukiyomi is useless in this situation.

1) 3 yasaka magatamas is impossible for itachi, his eyes and body are strained while using Susanoo because it consumes a large amount of his chakra. already using a large amount of chakra to sustain susanoo's fully formed state, and then using additional chakra to perform that jutsu is alot of chakra drainage, i doubt he would have enough for two of those let alone 3 ym itachi is amazing but not that amazing.

6)*sigh*...it was noted that itachi was far proficient and versatile with amaterasu....until sasuke surpassed him by doing what itachi cant, manipulate the flames and also change its shape.
Just incase you missed it, THis is why ITachi couldnt use Genjutsu, Because ONLY 1 Genjutsi capable against An Edo tensei. SO you wasted your time replying to that 1. cuz itachi dosent have kotoamatukami, or no genjutsu stronger than that. Thats why genjutsu wasent an option for itachi.

And yes Sasuke has changed the shape of AMaterasu BUT ITachi has Shown Way better manipulation with AMaterasu Look at his manipulation when chasing a Curse mark Sasuke, tell me that isnt good control. He even Extingushied Amaterasu when he burned sasukes fire, so that it wouldn't burn sasuke. So sasuke hasent surpassed Itachi yet. Raikages henchmen just said "DOnt tell me he's more profecinet than itachi" When he has NEVER seem itachi in his life or never seen itachi Amaterasu before, so he was just yapping his mouth lol.
 

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I believe the preta path is at the front and the outer path(revival) is at the back tendo in the midddle with the animal and human path flanking him and the asura path at the front to the left and the interrogation path at the back just in front of the outer path


Dont get me wrong itachi is my second strongest ninja in naruto but in this case it beats itachis strengths like genjutsu and focuses on his weakness like low stamnia.
let me quickly respond my sis is pissed that i am using the laptop but whatever. But tendo is clearly visible to itachi thus making tsukiyomi possible, nakara is behind them.

And no nagato is not the strongest and neither is Itachi it is Madara now. he can avoid any of nagato's techs with kamui(haxed jutsu). He can teleport anywhere and he can be intangible at 5 minutes at a time and now he has the rinnegan he is better than nagato and itachi, plus he might have more ems techs. naruto is eventually gonna be stronger than nagato come on main character and so is sasuke he is the rival and is gonna be equal to naruto. Minato i can see winning against nagato.
 

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But dont forget he was very sick,and was coughing up blood, his body was kinda in a poor condition. But he did manage Susano'o for some time though,even managed to use the complete version (Which was unnesecary lol) But dont forget Itachi has Speed too lol he dosent only have MS techniques, but he's pretty good in Ninjutsu and Taijutsu, his taijutsu is better than his ninjutsu. And does his Jutsu remarkabley fast, even kakashi was and kurenai was like "WHAT" i didnt even see any hand signs, "I couldnt even keep up with my sharingan" And itachi wasent even moving barely, yet kakashi nor asuma nor kurenai could touch him.

So itachis ninjutsu might be a little challenge for that chakra absorbing path, since itachi jutsu speed is Fast.

But tendo pain is the most trouble some
Ok trust me i have analyzed the whole fight, this is how it wud go.

They meet up and fight and Itachi does genjutsu, 1 pain gets caught but then Nagato distruptes the chakra and it releases, even if it didnt then thats just 1 path u know, and the others can free him trust me they can, when J-man was there the other paths werent around to free him but in here they do, and then the deva path starts to fly and says "you will now know pain" so Itachi uses amatarasu on him but deva uses shinra tensei and the absorbing path is right in front of Pain as he keeps going up, so Itachi tries amatarasu again and the path absorbes it, so Itachi is tired now but then gets the path in front with tsukyomi and since they say only an Uchiha can escape that then the absorbing path died, but by this time Pain is way out of reach and Itachi is tired, Pain uses the ultimate shinra tensei that he uses to destroy the leaf, and just when he thinks Itachi is dead he finds out Itachi has activated his trump card Sasoonoo to defend even that attack! Pain is out of reach to get hit by the sword obviously and animal path summons animals but Itachi seals them and Pain uses planet dev and Itachi is out of chakra so in the end Pain still wins and if he somehow destroys planetary dev with his most powerful long range jutsu, Pain then uses divine attraction and stabs him, and by now the 1 or at max 2 paths he kill are revived, Itachi is on the floor and he has reached his limit! All 6 paths come in attendance and stab Itachi like on J-man and Pain says " know pain" and then game over, tell me how it cud of gone differently plz. At the end Pain will win becuz of his paths and their powers. Now i am not saying Itachi cant win but 7/10 times or at least 6/10 times Pain wud win.
 

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let me quickly respond my sis is pissed that i am using the laptop but whatever. But tendo is clearly visible to itachi thus making tsukiyomi possible, nakara is behind them.

And no nagato is not the strongest and neither is Itachi it is Madara now. he can avoid any of nagato's techs with kamui(haxed jutsu). He can teleport anywhere and he can be intangible at 5 minutes at a time and now he has the rinnegan he is better than nagato and itachi, plus he might have more ems techs. naruto is eventually gonna be stronger than nagato come on main character and so is sasuke he is the rival and is gonna be equal to naruto. Minato i can see winning against nagato.
well i have arguements with them all madara got killed by konan but used izangi to make it all a dream and now he has nagatos rinnegan hes the strongest?i dont buy it.madara said nagato was invincible.It was said that naruto has surpassed his father and we know that realistically naruto wouldnt win a fight but i agree about naruto will be stronger in the end and seeing as sasuke will always be on par with him he probably will be too.
 
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Just incase you missed it, THis is why ITachi couldnt use Genjutsu, Because ONLY 1 Genjutsi capable against An Edo tensei. SO you wasted your time replying to that 1. cuz itachi dosent have kotoamatukami, or no genjutsu stronger than that. Thats why genjutsu wasent an option for itachi.
you must of missed my point, i never said the jutsu was able to null edo, im just wandering why the user cant be cast under genjutsu from the same theory you had given on nagato and his paths.

And yes Sasuke has changed the shape of AMaterasu BUT ITachi has Shown Way better manipulation with AMaterasu Look at his manipulation when chasing a Curse mark Sasuke, tell me that isnt good control. He even Extingushied Amaterasu when he burned sasukes fire, so that it wouldn't burn sasuke. So sasuke hasent surpassed Itachi yet. Raikages henchmen just said "DOnt tell me he's more profecinet than itachi" When he has NEVER seem itachi in his life or never seen itachi Amaterasu before, so he was just yapping his mouth lol.
ummm if you think sasuke's Kagutsuchi where he can shape amaterasu flames to a almost solid object where it has piercing qualities, inferior to itachi's control of amaterasu, then you clearly reading the wrong managa.
 

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Ok trust me i have analyzed the whole fight, this is how it wud go.

They meet up and fight and Itachi does genjutsu, 1 pain gets caught but then Nagato distruptes the chakra and it releases, even if it didnt then thats just 1 path u know, and the others can free him trust me they can, when J-man was there the other paths werent around to free him but in here they do, and then the deva path starts to fly and says "you will now know pain" so Itachi uses amatarasu on him but deva uses shinra tensei and the absorbing path is right in front of Pain as he keeps going up, so Itachi tries amatarasu again and the path absorbes it, so Itachi is tired now but then gets the path in front with tsukyomi and since they say only an Uchiha can escape that then the absorbing path died, but by this time Pain is way out of reach and Itachi is tired, Pain uses the ultimate shinra tensei that he uses to destroy the leaf, and just when he thinks Itachi is dead he finds out Itachi has activated his trump card Sasoonoo to defend even that attack! Pain is out of reach to get hit by the sword obviously and animal path summons animals but Itachi seals them and Pain uses planet dev and Itachi is out of chakra so in the end Pain still wins and if he somehow destroys planetary dev with his most powerful long range jutsu, Pain then uses divine attraction and stabs him, and by now the 1 or at max 2 paths he kill are revived, Itachi is on the floor and he has reached his limit! All 6 paths come in attendance and stab Itachi like on J-man and Pain says " know pain" and then game over, tell me how it cud of gone differently plz. At the end Pain will win becuz of his paths and their powers. Now i am not saying Itachi cant win but 7/10 times or at least 6/10 times Pain wud win.
what do u think arv993 and kadowade? oh yea i forgot that kado already admitted that if Nagato summons Pain then Nagato wud win most likely, but what bout u arv?
 
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