Itachi vs Pain

Itachi vs Nagato

  • Itachi

    Votes: 236 48.2%
  • Pain

    Votes: 236 48.2%
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If tsukiyomi works then itachi might win if he gets the real nagato but if tsukiyomi does not work itachi cannot handle 7 v 1 disadvantage. The only other way itachi can win is if he is allowed to use KA. otherwise nagato and his paths win.
 

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oh wow i didn't kno that, then genjutsu won't work. but i thought u said in ur post that itachi was facing nagato along paths u didn't say he was hiding.
Well i thought u wud figure it out i mean why wudnt he hide? he knows about Itachi and his genjutsu tricks so unless the rinnegan is immune to them then he wud hide. And so he wud most likely win agreed?
 

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if your implying that nagato could get caught in genjutsu with one of his paths, im inclined to say no, j-mans genjutsu with his ma and pa only affected the three paths it caught, you saying it should of did the same with nagato? and even if its possible, where does itachi's amazing stamina come from when casting that genjutsu on a target thats mind is a great distance away, he was weakened in the short distance with kakshi, ponder the distance with nagato, i doubt it would even be able to reach him.
READ THIS:
Pls I have 2 clerify dis now.
Hearing Genjutsu is still genjutsu. Visual genjutsu is still under genjutsu n so is Finger genjutsu. People say d Rinnegan is IMMUNE 2 visual genjutsu with no facts 2 back it up but what of Itachi's Finger genjutsu? Who knows Itachi may even hav ASS genjutsu.

THERE IS 1 IMPORTANT THING I WUD WANT 2 POINT OUT.
D genjutsu Itachi casted upon Naruto when they met on their way 2 save Gaara was NOT Tsukuyomi. It was Itachi's NORMAL GENJUTSU. I know dis cos Itachi's eye's never showed Mangekyou Sharingan during that fight. He even said he cudn't activate MS at that time.

That was only 30% of Itachi's chakra. So if disrupting ur chakra flow(with someone as much chakra as Naruto) cudn't work on a NORMAL GENJUTSU how cud someone disrupt his chakra 2 counter TSUKUYOMI? It's not possible even with d Rinnegan.

It is stated in d manga that Itachi's Tsukuyomi can ONLY BE BROKEN BY HIS OWN FLESH AND BLOOD(Meaning Sasuke). And Sasuke fulfilled that statement when they fought. Zetsu said he cudn't believe that SASUKE BROKE TSUKUYOMI.

I hope dis thread has been useful 2 those still arguing about Itachi vs Nagato. Please read ur manga 2 be sure about mt facts n correct me where I am wrong. Thank You.


1. Tsukuyomi- Itachi's strength is genjutsu, Nagato's weakness is genjutsu. Since Jiraiya got him with genjutsu I'm sure Itachi wud easily get him since he has d strongest genjutsu in d narutoverse. D reason why Itachi didn't bother in using Tsukuyomi is cos there's no point in wasting ur chakra on someone who cannot die.

2. Amateratsu- As seen in d last chapter Itachi already burned Nagato's hands b4 he cud do anything 2 counter it but due 2 d fact dat Nagato is an Edo Tensei it cud not destroy his hands so it regenerated back so he cud repelled it.

3. Totsuka Blade- Seals Nagato's soul. Many ppl say Itachi sealed Nagato but didn't kill him. Pls can u kill an Edo Tensei? Itachi knew d only way 2 kill him was by sealing him so dat's why he did.

4. Yata Mirror- It DEFLECTS ALL THINGS including Shinra Tensei.

5. Yasaka's Magatama- Itachi's strongest long range attack was capable of destroying Chikudan Tensei. 1 or 3 Yasaka's Magatamas wud destroy Chikudan Tensei. D reason why Itachi told all of them 2 contribute was due 2 d fact dat he was saving his chakra 4 future battles in d war. What if d person controllin Nagato sends someone stronger than Nagato 2 fight him immediately afta dis fight? Itachi is smart. He thought far ahead.

6. Smartness- I don't think anyone, even d most biased Nagato fan in Naruto wud oppose 2 d fact dat Itachi is smarter than Nagato
 

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Dang! This is an EPIC thread the best i have ever seen or created! Everyone is debating or changing their minds and the votes are like equal! AMAZING
 

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Well i thought u wud figure it out i mean why wudnt he hide? he knows about Itachi and his genjutsu tricks so unless the rinnegan is immune to them then he wud hide. And so he wud most likely win agreed?
but even b4 he gets an opportunity to hide wouldn't itachi just have to make eye contact or make nagato look at his finger it does not seem that hard. And what is the pointr of this if all nagato is gonna do is go hide, this thread is pretty weird with its conditions but if he successfuly hides then he wins.
 

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I wish I could take part but I'm getting sleepy, I will say fanboy's destroyed the poll aspect of the topic though, I'll probably put my two cents in about Nagato later
 

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It's not a fair fight but with 7 against 1, Nagato hiding n Itachi not having Koto Amatsukami Nagato wins. And after dis thread I've known u are a TRUE NAGATO FAN!!!!
 

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SUSANOO-susanoo is labeled ninjutsu and doujutsu. its a ninjutsu produced by doujtsu. it is materialization of itachi's chakra therefore it can be absorbed. the only reason nagato didnt do it in manga was becuz he wasnt close enough.

TSUKOYOMI-affects the chakra in the targeted person's brain with eye contact. he wud be using it on dead peoples brain. he wud shortly disable control of 1 body but the others wud already be attacking so its dumb 2 use seeing as nagato can see out of all other bodies and doesnt have 2 look at itachi with his own body.

AMATERASU-Amaterasu doesnt burn intsantly.nagato can force it off with gravity techniques(pull it off-and use 4 is own attack lol) and revive a body b4 it is comsumed. Plus he can sense th pressure of it b4 its used.
 
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It's not a fair fight but with 7 against 1, Nagato hiding n Itachi not having Koto Amatsukami Nagato wins. And after dis thread I've known u are a TRUE NAGATO FAN!!!!
Koto Amatsuki doesn't count because it only responds to Itachi's Ms, it means nothing to the rinnegan, and I said I wouldn't post
 

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Dang! This is an EPIC thread the best i have ever seen or created! Everyone is debating or changing their minds and the votes are like equal! AMAZING
Dis is d one of d WORST THREADS EVER. A thread made based on fanboy beliefs. I'm really angry at u MinatoFLASH 4 posted such a good thread then spoiling it with stupid addages. Why does Nagato have his 6 paths n Itachi doesn't hav Koto Amatsukami. I expected d thread 2 be way lot better than this.
 

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Dis is d one of d WORST THREADS EVER. A thread made based on fanboy beliefs. I'm really angry at u MinatoFLASH 4 posted such a good thread then spoiling it with stupid addages. Why does Nagato have his 6 paths n Itachi doesn't hav Koto Amatsukami. I expected d thread 2 be way lot better than this.
Once again, Koto Amatsukami only works on Itachi's MS, so it wouldn't mean a thing anyways
 

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Koto Amatsuki doesn't count because it only responds to Itachi's Ms, it means nothing to the rinnegan, and I said I wouldn't post
IS D RINNEGAN UNBEATABLE?!! NOOOOO!!!! Nothing and I repeat NOTHING can counter Koto Amatsukami. It doesn't require Eye contact since Danzo used it in d summit with his bandage covered. The Narutowikia says so too. It's weakness is that it can be done only once in 10 yrs
 
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READ THIS:
Pls I have 2 clerify dis now.
Hearing Genjutsu is still genjutsu. Visual genjutsu is still under genjutsu n so is Finger genjutsu. People say d Rinnegan is IMMUNE 2 visual genjutsu with no facts 2 back it up but what of Itachi's Finger genjutsu? Who knows Itachi may even hav ASS genjutsu.

THERE IS 1 IMPORTANT THING I WUD WANT 2 POINT OUT.
D genjutsu Itachi casted upon Naruto when they met on their way 2 save Gaara was NOT Tsukuyomi. It was Itachi's NORMAL GENJUTSU. I know dis cos Itachi's eye's never showed Mangekyou Sharingan during that fight. He even said he cudn't activate MS at that time.

That was only 30% of Itachi's chakra. So if disrupting ur chakra flow(with someone as much chakra as Naruto) cudn't work on a NORMAL GENJUTSU how cud someone disrupt his chakra 2 counter TSUKUYOMI? It's not possible even with d Rinnegan.

It is stated in d manga that Itachi's Tsukuyomi can ONLY BE BROKEN BY HIS OWN FLESH AND BLOOD(Meaning Sasuke). And Sasuke fulfilled that statement when they fought. Zetsu said he cudn't believe that SASUKE BROKE TSUKUYOMI.

I hope dis thread has been useful 2 those still arguing about Itachi vs Nagato. Please read ur manga 2 be sure about mt facts n correct me where I am wrong. Thank You.


1. Tsukuyomi- Itachi's strength is genjutsu, Nagato's weakness is genjutsu. Since Jiraiya got him with genjutsu I'm sure Itachi wud easily get him since he has d strongest genjutsu in d narutoverse. D reason why Itachi didn't bother in using Tsukuyomi is cos there's no point in wasting ur chakra on someone who cannot die.

2. Amateratsu- As seen in d last chapter Itachi already burned Nagato's hands b4 he cud do anything 2 counter it but due 2 d fact dat Nagato is an Edo Tensei it cud not destroy his hands so it regenerated back so he cud repelled it.

3. Totsuka Blade- Seals Nagato's soul. Many ppl say Itachi sealed Nagato but didn't kill him. Pls can u kill an Edo Tensei? Itachi knew d only way 2 kill him was by sealing him so dat's why he did.

4. Yata Mirror- It DEFLECTS ALL THINGS including Shinra Tensei.

5. Yasaka's Magatama- Itachi's strongest long range attack was capable of destroying Chikudan Tensei. 1 or 3 Yasaka's Magatamas wud destroy Chikudan Tensei. D reason why Itachi told all of them 2 contribute was due 2 d fact dat he was saving his chakra 4 future battles in d war. What if d person controllin Nagato sends someone stronger than Nagato 2 fight him immediately afta dis fight? Itachi is smart. He thought far ahead.

6. Smartness- I don't think anyone, even d most biased Nagato fan in Naruto wud oppose 2 d fact dat Itachi is smarter than Nagato
Great points u made. But now listen carefully and without being biased. I agree with you bout the genjutsu part that it wud work on him. But remember that Nagato isnt really fighting him, its the Pain and getting 1 path under a genjutsu wont do everything, even if Itachi kills the path he wud be brought back soon. Now for your other points.

1. I already told you bout Tsukyomi and know that its not an easy jutsu to get ppl in and even if he does it will only be on 1 path and the path wud soon be back and it wud cause Itachi a lot of chakra.

2. Yes amatarasu burned him but he wud just use shinra tensei to get it off and even tho he wud be hurt he wont be dead and even if he wud that again will be just 1 path.

3. I admit bout this too but Pain cud use shinra tensei to push back the blade

4. yes it does but Pain wud just use this as a defensive method then

5. Strong attack but it wud not destroy all paths and paths keep coming back and maybe shinra tensei wud push that back as well

6. Yes Itachi is smarter but lacks chakra and the kind of power, Nagato's powers are extreme if you think bout it, what kind of human can fly, destroy villages with one attack, bring ppl back to life, etc.

So you see in the end Itachi's chakra wud run out and wud be killed by Pain, i like Itachi better too but i dont see how he wud beat Pain anymore.
 

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Dis is d one of d WORST THREADS EVER. A thread made based on fanboy beliefs. I'm really angry at u MinatoFLASH 4 posted such a good thread then spoiling it with stupid addages. Why does Nagato have his 6 paths n Itachi doesn't hav Koto Amatsukami. I expected d thread 2 be way lot better than this.

READ THIS
SUSANOO-susanoo is labeled ninjutsu and doujutsu. its a ninjutsu produced by doujtsu. it is materialization of itachi's chakra therefore it can be absorbed. the only reason nagato didnt do it in manga was becuz he wasnt close enough.

TSUKOYOMI-affects the chakra in the targeted person's brain with eye contact. he wud be using it on dead peoples brain. he wud shortly disable control of 1 body but the others wud already be attacking so its dumb 2 use seeing as nagato can see out of all other bodies and doesnt have 2 look at itachi with his own body.

AMATERASU-Amaterasu doesnt burn intsantly.nagato can force it off with gravity techniques(pull it off-and use 4 is own attack lol) and revive a body b4 it is comsumed. Plus he can sense th pressure of it b4 its used.
 
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