When did he said it was a "mistake"?. And when did he ran from kakashi and guy?
NAGATO IS STRONGER THAN ITACHI. I LIKE ITACHI MORE AND I LIKE SHARINGAN BUT ITACHI FANS JST HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT NAGATO IS STRONGER... [1]... In Naruto world no one listens to u unless u are stronger than them... Eg A and bee... Naruto and shikamarus dad... itachi and kisame, orochimaru, deidara...pain and naruto... Nagato is the leader of atkasuki and gave ORDERS to everyone EVEN ITACHI and no one ever refused... Itachi proved he is stronger dan orochimaru... And oro ran from the association and went in hiding... If itachi was stronger he wuld hav tried to say no to pain since atkasuki was becomin more of a threat to konoha... [2]... Itachi fans say nagato attacked konoha after itachi died cos he was SCARED of itachi... Dis is NOT true bcos he told hidan and atkasuki members that he had to seal them from 1 to 9 to not DISRUPT the BALANCE of the GEDO statue.. Even itachi told kisame.. If not pain wuld hav captured naruto anytime... [3]... No one in the naruto series can attack konoha and personally destroy it... Itachi killed ONE CLAN but nagato DESTROYED THE VILLAGE.. Even madara was scared to fight till he IMPLANTED the rinnegan and then HE SAID HE IS NOW READY FOR BATTLE.... [4]... Itachi fans say that itachi will put nagato in a genjutsu(VISUAL) but it is NOT TRUE.. Jiraya only put pain in senjutsu(SOUND) which pain did not expect jiraya to have.. Rinnegan has a higher doujutsu or eye power than sharingan dat is why madara said u will see more of the sage of six paths secrets MORE with RINNEGAN THAN MANGYEKO SHARINGAN.. It will definitely see through a genjutsu.. [5]... In fact Nagato has a COUNTER to all of itachis attacks.. (i).. Amaterasu - shinra tensei (ii).. Genjutsu - rinnigan will see thru it bcos it is not sound.. (iii).. Yata malgamata - he can pull any rock nearby to defend himself just as he did wen naruto was in six tails.. Surely yata malgamata is not as powerful as the sixtail attack wen four tails took down oros rashoumon.. (iv).. Susanos SEALING SWORD - surely shinera tensei on a high level is strong enough to deflect its path (since danzo used wood to deflect sasukes arrow and the arrow shuld b FASTER than the sealing sword).. (V) fire stye - he can absorb all ninjutsu If nagato starts his attacks he didnt use in the battle... (i).. Nagato could bring the GEDO Statue (raikages punch was stronger than danzos and injured sasuke even wen he used susano and amatersu... Just a blow from the GEDO which is 100 TIMES STRONGER wuld seriously injure itachi even with his susano (ii).. He could bring out that soul absorbing tech from the statue which is MORE powerful than the fourths dead reaper seal and it wuld pass thru susano and take his soul since it is spiritual not physical.. (iii).. Chibaku tensei will kill itachi if he is alone... It was strong enough to lift susano up... Only itachis yata malgamata is not enough to destroy chibaku tense bcos naruto in nine tails fired blasts at chibaku and it had no effect.. And nagato said HE CAN MAKE IT EVEN BIGGER... (iv).. Shinra tensei is strong enough to hold susano down jst as danzo summoned baku to hold susano while he attacked from the back where it was easily opened up.. Shinera tensei is surely stronger than the force of baku (unless u r saying danzo culd equally DESTROY the whole of KONOHA WITH THE BAKU jst like pain) whil shinera tensei attacks, the three headed sumoning can easily open up susano from the weak spot... [6]... Finally there is NO FIVE SECOND INTERVAL WITH SHINERA TENSEI IN HIS TRUE FORM.. Naruto said his jutsus were now faster and more powerful.. He can use all the paths in one body.. He can absorb chakra far more than samehada even if someone attacks with a powerful taijutsu like lariat.. He will just absorb the chakra of the attacker and reduce the power of the attack... NAGATO IS STRONGER THAN ITACHI.. THE ONLY THING THAT GIVES ITACHI A CHANCE IS BCOS HE IS SMART... RINNIGAN IS GREATER THAN SHARINGAN.. ACCEPT PAIN... FEAR PAIN.. ITACHI FANS CAN CORRECT ME IF THEY ARE STILL DOUBTING ME!!!
wow let me correct you one one thing first no one listens to you unless you are stronger, So according to your is tsunade stronger than naruto apparently. And madara even said that now that itachi is gone we are allowed to attack konoha. How are u sure there is no 5 sec interval at all it might be reduced by like 2 sec we never kno, itachi's sword is fast 5 sec or 3 sec interval or even lower than that does not matter. u make a lot of assumptions like rinnegan can see through genjutsu but do u hav any proof if not than stop blabing all this nonsense. BTW nagato destroyed konoha when the strongest ppl were not present like guy, naruto, and danzo and his whole anbu squads were not attacking pain at all.
Combined effort?
Naruto and Bee were getting owned by Nagato who I should mention died twice prior to them getting owned but thanks to Edo Tensei, he was still alive and kicking.
Itachi beat him.
And stop crying about it being 3 vs. 1 when it obviously was 2 vs. 1 and Nagato was winning. Once Itachi joined, he managed to figure out his weakness, help Naruto and Bee and defeat Nagato.
Nagato had no handicap, in fact, he had an upper hand thanks to Edo Tensei's regeneration ability.
Itachi > Nagato. I did not see Itachi lose in anyway.
dude you sound like a butt hurt itachi fanboy the rinnegan is resistant to visual genjustu as madara said + your saying danzo + a whole anbu squad could kill Nagato you kidding me? Nagato is such a beast he did what madara and oro wanted to do for years by himself this whole thread is riddiclous no wonder your not convinced because anyone with common sense can tell that nagato would kill itachi
ITACHI FANS are SCARED of replying my earlier post on 51 they cant deny the facts.. Hahaha nagato is stronger... FEAR PAIN... IMAGINE PAIN
Idiot is the one that dose not accept a true t because it in conflict with their illusion of the world, you can not change what has happen, ones something happens it is true now and forever, you might as well try to change if you can the rising and the setting of the sun.
dude u r the ultimate nagato fanboy, when the hell did madara say that rinnegan is resistant to any visual genjutsu stop posting made up crap like that. u think danzo, naruto and guy can't stop pain than u r stupid, danzo has like so many izanagis that he could use to get some of the paths, plus his anbu is also gonna help and guy and naruto u obviously forgot got there really late, u think they will let pain go on a rampage like that hell no but obviously pain defeated a weakened konoha without some of its strongest members participating, but since u r the no.1 fanboy of nagato u obviously would not see that. madara could not succeed becos of fourth hokage, if he was there he would have beaten nagato too with mid difficulty.
itachi is stronger than nagato if and only if shikamaru is stronger than kakuzu.
I think there is a difference between strength and smartness.[/QUOTE
there is a difference between just having strength with not much intelligence(nagato) and having both strength and high intelligence(itachi)
he said in the manga that it was visually supperior and if the sharringan can see through genjustu the rinnegan sure as hell can Nagato would kill any naruto character if you look at all the powers he has he can fly and spam powerful rinnegan techs on any character itachi killed his whole clan.. with help .Nagato has killed thousands and destroyed konoha in one single move something that noone in the manga could do alone.Itachi has the sharringan,Nagato has the rinnegan.like both eye types Nagato is on a whole different level deny this all you want live in denial and masturabte over itachi idc,just keep your stupid silly retarded opnions to yourself thank you
itachi is stronger than nagato if and only if shikamaru is stronger than kakuzu.
I think there is a difference between strength and smartness.[/QUOTE
there is a difference between just having strength with not much intelligence(nagato) and having both strength and high intelligence(itachi)
Um, where did you get the idea that Negato didn't have much intelligence? Negato is actually pretty smart.
i have tried very hard to restrain myself from this topic but the amount of stupidity (one line sentence or made up things) i have read from both arguments has forced me to here. I don't mean everyone in here as people who at least put some detail into why they think nagato would win or itachi would win weren't bad to read but somewhere a bit off.
I know from my name it seems i'm a huge itachi fan which i am but nagato and minato are on that list also (which i know they are all most talked chars). The reason for the user name is due to most i put in were taken (sage-pein, yellowflash, genflash), so i put this in and went thru so i could care less if anyone points me out to be a fan boy.:flaw:
As far as we speak of this 3 v 1 is just ridiculous, it wasn't considered a battle among both itachi and nagato. The thing with this is nagato tried capturing naruto and bee, while itachi tried saving them. If you look at it that way itachi succeed saving them from chibaku tensei with all three using there strongest attack but itachi sealed nagato at the end that is it. I think a lot of people don't give credit where it should be given, i mean how quick did itachi figure out chibaku tensei weakness which is considered one of nagato's strongest attacks? If people open there imagination and if itachi beat nagato in a 1v1, all nagato fans would be fuming and arguing about how nagato wasn't at full strength or was under edo so either way there is no winner.
I see a lot of people stating nagato being the strongest because it supposedly took 3 people to take him out. I say we open up the imagination again and switch nagato with itachi, so in other words nagato escaped edo and itachi didn't. It's safe to assume if that was to happen than kabuto would take away itachi's emotions and activate susanoo with the spiritual sword and shield. It would end up taking three of them to fight him off due to the fact naruto and bee are more close combat fighters with the sword that won't happen so nagato (since he knows a lot about itachi's tech) or someone there would need to figure out how to defeat him. So now would that make itachi the strongest in manga?
It also came to my mind were people assume one attack can't take out chibaku tensei. I don't recall reading in the manga that one attack would work or it wouldn't. Here's an example of why itachi got naruto and bee to use there tech's, in football (soccer in some places) when a striker is going for net would the two defenders just back off? So the goalie makes the save or at least tries? No they would try to stop that striker in order to win. This is were the three tech's comes in itachi wasn't just gonna use his tech why not get naruto and bee also as they all were present there would stand a bigger chance in ending everything. Even if one tech was used if it did or didn't destroy chibaku tensei, nagato would have been wary and done something.
I was very glad to see nagato once more as well as itachi and very pleased to hear that nagato was actually much stronger/faster than we seen him in the past. I wish in his case there was a better ending so most nagato fans can be happy with it but sadly even i wasn't too happy with how kishi ended him but we may see something next chap? Hopefully? Just before his sealing ends.
Also to all those nagato fan boys you continuously point out itachi fan boys but you are no less than itachi fan boys either (ranked in the same cata). You believe nagato can beat anyone as most itachi fans believe that also for itachi. Itachi fan's do come in and put one line sentence like genjutsu, sasuno'o, amaterasu, ms and etc. The nagato fan boys also continuously say nagato would win with shinra tensei, chibaku tensei, rinnegan, 6 bodies, or etc. We all know one attack won't finish off a battle especially witrh top rank shiniboi, it's like saying sasuke will win becuase of kirin, genjutsu, susano'o or even amaterasu and naruto would win with resengan, the cloak, kyuubi or so on. So, please fan boys come from both sides and the fact is no one will listen.
I've also read in this topic and others the just because itachi didn't use genjutsu, nagato is all of a sudden immune to it? So, nagato, naruto, bee and itachi didn't use many attacks lets all of a sudden assume they are all immune to it * sarcasm*. Tobi did state that rinnegan is superior but it doesn't mean, he won't be affected by genjutsu. I mean kurenai was very good at using genjutsu by itachi still manged to flip her genjutsu on her and than kakashi with a sharingan thinking he can match toe to toe was pretty much owned, sasuke was young but he was even under genjutsu, till the end. So, no evidence, no case here.
What people fail to realize here is when have we even seen itachi at his best? Where have we seen itachi fight to survive/kill? Itachi mastered the sharingan at a young age, he became a nabu captain at age 13 (this is like having a 13 year old being a commander of an army or captain of a huge sports team), he battled deidara before it begin it ended, oro being a genius was also a victim of a regular sharingan, kurenai/kakashi were out match and would have been destroyed by itachi if it wasn't for them being konoho shinobi's, jiriaya stated that no one has escaped the belly of the toad when he caught itachi and kisame but yet itachi got out a long with kisame, 30% itachi encountered chiyo/sakura/naruto/kakashi even tho chiyo and sakura just helped naruto a little to get out of the genjutsu (which was just a regular sharingan) it took them to defeat itachi even all he was doing is stalling time and not even trying to kill, and the closet to a battle we seen itachi was vs sasuke but even than he wasn't serious as he planned to let sasuke kill him but he still out lasted sasuke even tho he wasn't at a 100% and his eyesight was done, sasuke was out of chakra even tho itachi had ms activate the whole match and managed to seal oro away (the reason why the battle last long he needed sasuke to ran out of chakra for him to seal oro or else sasuke would have been in trouble). So, if anyone has seen a legit battle than please let me know.
If you remember correctly what did tobi state after the amaterasu fail attempt? He said, "there was a few things i hid from itachi, if not for that i would have been dead." so, tobi here is pretty much saying if itachi knew about izanagi (as it is safe to say that was one thing he hid from itachi and how he survived against the amaterasu attack) he would have been able to kill him. Itachi figuring out how to defeat an izanagi user and while he's dead able to activate a plan, could have still stood a chance on killing tobi. Itachi intelligence itself being a deadly weapon.
Imo between nagato vs itachi, i have no conclusion as to both are great in there own standings and assuming a victor here without full knowledge is pathetic. So, it's a draw or a battle that won't end and i can give f what anyone thinks about my opinion.
So, please quit degrading both nagato and itachi's character and move on. I typed a brick wall so there maybe mistakes feel free to add, flame (as usually), or correct me.