[Theory] Itachi is stronger than Nagato

[Hitoshi]

Theory is wrong cause it took Naruto,Itachi,and Killer Bee to defate him not just Itachi. plus Itachi relies on his items most of the time. Rinnega is stronger eye technique. Itachi knows more justus. Was the orginal leader of the atakski not Itachi. Itachi breaking out of the edo tensi was a mistake even he admitted to it. Ran from Kakashi and Guy.

bro im going to need you to use complete sentences. As you just put together a bunch of fragments idk what your trying to say but seeing how you have nagato as your avatar im guessing your trying to put itachi down or something along those lines.

 

[Kyuubikiller]

ok I don't wanna answer this coz it might break your heart well anyway this are not facts coz clearly its all speculation coming from an average itachi fanboy.

1. Tsukuyomi was never an option from the last battle we saw, thus give us a hint that itachi might know it wont work(he's smart after all, you said that urself). Sound based genjutsu is not the same as visual genjutsu. As ma and pa frog said, their sound genjutsu is their strongest genjutsu attack. So thinking if one attack works why wont the other is a fail.

2. If there is one attack of itachi that is completely useless against nagato its Amaterasu. Why? we all saw how he repelled the fire by shinra tensei, and everyone will agree that since its a ninjutsu it can be absorb by preta path. again, itachi is wise that he did not use amaterasu to attack nagato the second time coz he already know it wont work.

3. Totsuka sword is the only way itachi can beat nagato honestly. but this one is still debatable coz nagato will not easily fall for a cheapshot if its one on one and he is focused fighting itachi and not taking 3 most powerful ninja. It can be shinra tensei'd, susanoo itself is vulnerable to chibaku tensei.

4. Yata mirror cannot block any attack, its vulnerable to banshou tenin,shinra tensei and chibaku tensei. If you think with sense, how can a shield block a non projectile attack like chibaku? it will just be pulled right in the center with susanoo and eventually squished. Again, Itachi did not use yata mirror to chibaku tensei coz itachi is much wiser than you that he knows yata mirror CANNOT block chibaku tensei.. not to mention, its a chakra thus can be absorb by preta path.bad news for you huh?

5. LOL, the magatama, why itachi fanboys always exaggerate things? that long range attack of itachi can't destroy chibaku tensei alone, itachi is WISE he knew he cannot destroy it himself that is why he ask for it, as simple as that dude. Again itachi is smart he knew even if he hit the core repeatedly its just a waste, do you actually believe magatama is stronger than TBB and Naruto's rasenshuriken?! lol clearly a hardcore itachi fanboy.

*using 3 magatama to break chibaku is just dumb dude and doesn't sound like itachi,he'll ran out of chakra plus he might got squished before he can fire 3 magatamas. I repeat, itachi is smart, he knows exactly what to do in that shituation he cant afford to waste any time or else they're doomed.

6. lastly, coming right from you itachi is smart. HE knew he cannot take nagato alone, that is why he let naruto and bee fight nagato first in order to think and come up with a plan. If he knew he can take nagato alone, he should have said to naruto that just to go on and leave nagato to him. Logical isn't it?

lol You actually countered all his facts. It really wasn't worth the effort to me, but I'm glad someone shut him up, he posted it like 10 times in this thread. But even so, there is no convincing the Kadowade guy, I think he is in the end stages of extreme Itachi fanboyism, horrible disease to suffer from, he's completely lost touch with reality

SMDH

 

[Captain Shodai]

Something should be made clear. If Itachi is stronger than Nagato because he was able to beat him with Naruto and Bee, then Tsunade would logically be much, much stronger than Orochimaru because she beat him with Jiraiya only. Obviously this isn't true, because that's just not how things work.

Nagato was about to beat Bee and Naruto at the same time, without even using one of his strongest jutsu, six paths of pain. He was fighting with just his body, and furthermore was weakened by being an edo tensei puppet. At that point Itachi used the fact that Nagato was dealing with Bee and Naruto to get a swipe at Nagato with the susanoo sword. Though Itachi got him in the arm, which would have hampered him immensely had he not been an edo tensei puppet, he only managed that because Nagato was distracted by Naruto and Bee.

Even then Nagato's chibaku tensei may well have been capable of killing Itachi had it been one on one; or at least trapping Itachi inside until he can't sustain susano'o and then crush him. It's really unknown if it would take WS:RS, TBB and YM to destroy the chibaku tensei core; just one of these jutsu may have been enough, we really don't know. However, no matter how you look at it, the conditions that led to Nagato's defeat by Itachi were entirely dependent on the fact that he was fighting them 3 on 1. If Nagato hadn't been focusing on Bee and Naruto, Itachi would have lost. He might have gotten crushed by chibaku tensei. Or the battle would have taken a completely different course.

 

[minato the 4th]

no the reason he is not the leader is because he is an undercover spy retarde and because he wasnt even close to be the first one there im not a itachi fan boy but im sorry guys but itachi is like almost the smartest strongest combination ninja out there so he is realy hard to beat . basicaly you can count with one hande all the ninjas that can defeat him in the entire shinobi world

 

[PEIN is the answer]

Each of those moves you listed leaves Nagato COMPLETLY vulnerable open to ANY attack.

Amaterasu: It will take 4 ever to absorb Amaterasu if its spreaded already, and that will leave nagato completly vulnerable trying to absorb it. And itachi would easily go in 4 the kill.

All paths share the Same Vison, so If one of them is in Tsukiyomi ALL of them would be considering they All share one mind (Nagato) And the SAme Vision. They all see the same thing.

Trying to Absorb Susano"o Is Suicide. Cuz while trying to absorb it, itachi would Seal him away since Nagato has to be Extremly CLose and he has to make contact to absorb. Itachi would knock him back with Yata Mirror, Or just Seal him, since he's close.

Itachi can Amaterasu Chibaku Tensei, since it's nothing but Rocks and a ball of chakra. Amaterasu would disenegrate The rocks and the sphere.

Shinra Tensei would not Vanquish Susano'o, The most it will do is Push susano'o back a little. But the Yata mirror is said to deflect ALL attacks, so attacking would be useless.

I could go on, but u should get the point. Itachi has a counter for nagato's Techniques as well

First of all amaterasu against chibaku tensei is the dumbest thing ever then it wold be a giant ball of fire sucking you in and if pein can do these attacks while nine tails is rampaging after him he can dodge susano all day long and itachi is dead after one chibaku tensei any way it's not hard to figure out how to stop chibaku tensei it's if you have the power too the nine tails instantly started shooting it with fire balls so it don't take much brains

 

[PEIN is the answer]

*sighs* he cant accept that Pain Has Already been trapped in a Genjutsu already. Dude theres no point in trying to make him understand. He is denying the fact that Pain has already been trapped in a Genjustu and was helpless and didnt Escape.

Ya he got caught in a ritual sound genjustu when he was fighting some one he believed to use no genjustu its simple all genjustu can be countered if some one can counter it it would be nagato

 

[khaydz5]

Tsukiyomi is Far Stronger than Ma and pa's Non'Kekkei Genkai Genjutsu. WHy do you think itachi is praised for his genjutsu and not Ma and Pa.
And it makes NO DAMN SENSE in using Tsukiyomi on a EDO TENSEI since Tsukiyomi is not stronger than Shisui's Kotoamatsuki. So using tSukiyomi would Be pointless when Itachi can just Seal him away instead. if it was the Real,uncontrolled nagato, Then of course itachi would've used genjutsu like he mostly does to end it. But kabuto perfected the Reanimation Jutsu therfore making it almost impossible to escape it. (Allmost) So Genjutsu wasent A Option Towards a Reanimation Summoning. Unless its the Strongest genjutsu(Shisui Kotoamatsuki)


and like i said Genjutsu Is Genjutsu: Dosent matter how it's delivered.

for example: I kick a ball at you, Then I Throw a Ball at you, The same thing Happened Right, The only thing diffrent was How it was delivered, But the Outcome and result was Exactly the same.

So once again Nagato most likely isnt immune to Genjutsu.

Even jiraiya's Sound Genjutsu Turned into a Visual setting. It showed Pain inside of some Cube, Pain saw himself inside of a cube, basically thats Visualisation since PAin had to "See/Visualize" that he was inside of an cube, and he couldnt even get out So basically Jiraiya used SOund To trap pain in a Visual Genjutsu.
A Straight-up Sound Genjutsu is Kin's Which she used on Shikamaru. Jiraiyas genjutsu was "reached" to pain By SOund, But resulted in a Visualized effect towards pain. Basically making it a Visual Genjutsu. But it was delivered in "sound''

And Amaterasu burned Nagato's Hand since nagato was too slow to react towards the flames. But since he was an Edo Tensei He regenerated And used Shinra Tensei to get the flames off of him. If that wasent an Edo tensei , Nagato wouldve lost his hands therefore leaving him "Jutsu-Less". SO itachi wouldnt use it a Second time, if he knows Kabuto would just Regenereate nagato. .

And Yata Mirror is an Supernatural Ethereal Sheild, its not just ANY sheild. It's Said to repel all attacks for a reason ,and how do you know if its vulnearable to Banso tensin, that wasent proven anywhere, but it did state Yata Mirror repels all attacks. Although i bieleve Yata mirror cannot repel it. But we dont know how much Susano'o Weighs, so nagato would have to use an tremendous amount of force and chakra, lifting up something that big With that Mass. And Susano'o is Heavy since When he landed to save naruto & bee, The Shockwave from Susano'o Blew off Nagato's arm, and kabuto regenerated it

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And attacking Chibaku tensei repeatdedly is Not a waste. It will eventually destroy it before it completes itself. But if it completes itself then itachi is dead.

And no one knows How Strong Yasaka No Matagama is. Who knows............it may be stronger than a tailed beast bomb, Although i don't Believe So. But Any move from Susano'o should be powerful especially from Itachi's. And The Blade Of Totsuku extends so If chibaku tensei is used on itachi, it would just leave nagato wide open, for itachi to seal him. Since it takes a While to gather up the rocks, Itachi would easily seal him since it takes a few seconds to Stab him with Totsuku blade Or Seal him. Or he can Just Amaterasu chibaku tensei since it's Nothing but Rocks and Chakra.
Nagato's moves leave too many openings. 5 second delay from Shinra Tensei, No movement when using Chibaku Tensei, and can only use 1 path at a Time thefore allowing him to use only 1 technique at a time.

And it's common sense to use 2 jinchurki to help you just incase.
And if you payed attention Itachi NEVER underestimates his oponents, no matter who they are. SO he was being cautious and not over-confident. which is smart. And theres no proof that Matagama isnt stronger than a Tbb. Not saying that it is , but theres no proof...

1. those first two bold parts contradicts each other. as you have said genjutsu is a genjutsu no matter how you deliver it, so tsukuyomi is nothing different from koto amatsukami in terms of effectiveness. if koto affects the edo summons, why not tsukuyomi.lol. as simple logic as that you still fail to understand.

2. you're blinded by your love to itachi dude. admit it yata mirror can't deflect ANY attack. Chibaku tensei is an attack yet itachi did not use that to protect them from chibaku instead he resort by asking help from the 2 jinchuuriki.you cannot deny that. still you stick to what stated "it repels any attack" thing when in fact you know it cannot repel ALL attacks. admit it to yourself.

3. LOL dude. where does that "susanoo's weight" come from. its a CHAKRA how will it be heavy? and if its sooooo heavy as you imply then itachi should have burden CARRYING it LOL. what an ass, you made me laugh bringing up this non sense.. A chakra with weight.hahaha. its not a summon dude.

Nagato would need tremendous amount of chakra to lift susanoo?[?]hahaha. funniest shit you ever said dude. You saw manga it was lifted with ease when nagato use chibaku tensei.haha. Have you saw pain vs nine tails fight? He lifted a gigantic rock and drop it to kyubi. I doubt itachi would weigh as much as a boulder lol.

4. Again itachi will look dumb if he exhaust his chakra by just breaking chibaku. he knows himself better than you that's why he chose to have help from the 2 jinchuurikis. no speculations pls, based it on the manga we are reading.

5. ANY move from susanoo should be powerful?hahah. <--- being biased to the max dude.. I can also say that any MOVE from Nagato should be powerful enough to destroy susanoo coz rinnegan>sharingan. NUFF SAID!

6. Amaterasu Chibaku tensei?LOL. you're making your itachi look dumb in here dude. Itachi will never do that. he is waaaay more intelligent than you. he knows fire can't melt rocks instantly it will take a LLLLLOOOOOOOONG time before it will be destroyed. he'll be squished to death even before the rocks get hot. lol. and he might got caught on fire aswell. so, fail.

7. Nagato's move leaves to many opening? have you saw the recent manga dude? he mix and match paths to counter every attack naruto and bee throws at him. Where's the opening there? and if you read carefully the manga naruto even said that when nagato is complete his jutsus become stronger and faster. so, I doubt there's still the 5sec delay from shinra. besides that delay doesnt matter knowing he can just spam other paths while it is in "cooldown"

8. one path at a time? you really need to reread manga dude. nagato just used multiple paths at the same time in the recent fight dumbass. lol. preta path+asura path+human path were all used at the same time. or you still want me to bring up the evidence right into your face??


bottom line is: YOU NEED TO REREAD MANGA COZ IT SEEMS YOU'RE MISSING ALOT FROM THE PREVIOUS FIGHT ALONE. no wonder why you know little info of other character.worst is you're lacking knowledge even to your favorite itachi. that's just embarassing as a fanboy.really...

 

[Kyuubikiller]

1. those first two bold parts contradicts each other. as you have said genjutsu is a genjutsu no matter how you deliver it, so tsukuyomi is nothing different from koto amatsukami in terms of effectiveness. if koto affects the edo summons, why not tsukuyomi.lol. as simple logic as that you still fail to understand.

2. you're blinded by your love to itachi dude. admit it yata mirror can't deflect ANY attack. Chibaku tensei is an attack yet itachi did not use that to protect them from chibaku instead he resort by asking help from the 2 jinchuuriki.you cannot deny that. still you stick to what stated "it repels any attack" thing when in fact you know it cannot repel ALL attacks. admit it to yourself.

3. LOL dude. where does that "susanoo's weight" come from. its a CHAKRA how will it be heavy? and if its sooooo heavy as you imply then itachi should have burden CARRYING it LOL. what an ass, you made me laugh bringing up this non sense.. A chakra with weight.hahaha. its not a summon dude.

Nagato would need tremendous amount of chakra to lift susanoo?[?]hahaha. funniest shit you ever said dude. You saw manga it was lifted with ease when nagato use chibaku tensei.haha. Have you saw pain vs nine tails fight? He lifted a gigantic rock and drop it to kyubi. I doubt itachi would weigh as much as a boulder lol.

4. Again itachi will look dumb if he exhaust his chakra by just breaking chibaku. he knows himself better than you that's why he chose to have help from the 2 jinchuurikis. no speculations pls, based it on the manga we are reading.

5. ANY move from susanoo should be powerful?hahah. <--- being biased to the max dude.. I can also say that any MOVE from Nagato should be powerful enough to destroy susanoo coz rinnegan>sharingan. NUFF SAID!

6. Amaterasu Chibaku tensei?LOL. you're making your itachi look dumb in here dude. Itachi will never do that. he is waaaay more intelligent than you. he knows fire can't melt rocks instantly it will take a LLLLLOOOOOOOONG time before it will be destroyed. he'll be squished to death even before the rocks get hot. lol. and he might got caught on fire aswell. so, fail.

7. Nagato's move leaves to many opening? have you saw the recent manga dude? he mix and match paths to counter every attack naruto and bee throws at him. Where's the opening there? and if you read carefully the manga naruto even said that when nagato is complete his jutsus become stronger and faster. so, I doubt there's still the 5sec delay from shinra. besides that delay doesnt matter knowing he can just spam other paths while it is in "cooldown"

8. one path at a time? you really need to reread manga dude. nagato just used multiple paths at the same time in the recent fight dumbass. lol. preta path+asura path+human path were all used at the same time. or you still want me to bring up the evidence right into your face??


bottom line is: YOU NEED TO REREAD MANGA COZ IT SEEMS YOU'RE MISSING ALOT FROM THE PREVIOUS FIGHT ALONE. no wonder why you know little info of other character.worst is you're lacking knowledge even to your favorite itachi. that's just embarassing as a fanboy.really...

lol Priceless!!! This is hilarious. Burned by his love for Itachi, he is put to shame once again!

 

[arv993]

1. those first two bold parts contradicts each other. as you have said genjutsu is a genjutsu no matter how you deliver it, so tsukuyomi is nothing different from koto amatsukami in terms of effectiveness. if koto affects the edo summons, why not tsukuyomi.lol. as simple logic as that you still fail to understand.

2. you're blinded by your love to itachi dude. admit it yata mirror can't deflect ANY attack. Chibaku tensei is an attack yet itachi did not use that to protect them from chibaku instead he resort by asking help from the 2 jinchuuriki.you cannot deny that. still you stick to what stated "it repels any attack" thing when in fact you know it cannot repel ALL attacks. admit it to yourself.

3. LOL dude. where does that "susanoo's weight" come from. its a CHAKRA how will it be heavy? and if its sooooo heavy as you imply then itachi should have burden CARRYING it LOL. what an ass, you made me laugh bringing up this non sense.. A chakra with weight.hahaha. its not a summon dude.

Nagato would need tremendous amount of chakra to lift susanoo?[?]hahaha. funniest shit you ever said dude. You saw manga it was lifted with ease when nagato use chibaku tensei.haha. Have you saw pain vs nine tails fight? He lifted a gigantic rock and drop it to kyubi. I doubt itachi would weigh as much as a boulder lol.

4. Again itachi will look dumb if he exhaust his chakra by just breaking chibaku. he knows himself better than you that's why he chose to have help from the 2 jinchuurikis. no speculations pls, based it on the manga we are reading.

5. ANY move from susanoo should be powerful?hahah. <--- being biased to the max dude.. I can also say that any MOVE from Nagato should be powerful enough to destroy susanoo coz rinnegan>sharingan. NUFF SAID!

6. Amaterasu Chibaku tensei?LOL. you're making your itachi look dumb in here dude. Itachi will never do that. he is waaaay more intelligent than you. he knows fire can't melt rocks instantly it will take a LLLLLOOOOOOOONG time before it will be destroyed. he'll be squished to death even before the rocks get hot. lol. and he might got caught on fire aswell. so, fail.

7. Nagato's move leaves to many opening? have you saw the recent manga dude? he mix and match paths to counter every attack naruto and bee throws at him. Where's the opening there? and if you read carefully the manga naruto even said that when nagato is complete his jutsus become stronger and faster. so, I doubt there's still the 5sec delay from shinra. besides that delay doesnt matter knowing he can just spam other paths while it is in "cooldown"

8. one path at a time? you really need to reread manga dude. nagato just used multiple paths at the same time in the recent fight dumbass. lol. preta path+asura path+human path were all used at the same time. or you still want me to bring up the evidence right into your face??


bottom line is: YOU NEED TO REREAD MANGA COZ IT SEEMS YOU'RE MISSING ALOT FROM THE PREVIOUS FIGHT ALONE. no wonder why you know little info of other character.worst is you're lacking knowledge even to your favorite itachi. that's just embarassing as a fanboy.really...

Stop trying to change some of the meanings of what he is trying to say, he said in essence genjutsu is genjutsu it does not matter if it is sound or visual but the strength in genjutsu is completely different and stop trying to change his words, even kabuto said the that there is only one genjutsu is strong enough to produce such a feat to break edo tensei(the genjutsu is koto amakatsui). And khadyz try to be logical when the manga says any attack it means any force directed towards it that is what a shield does, it cannot block some tech that pulls you into a rock, that is juts illogical. Itachi is a smart guy why would he try to defeat his chibaku tensei by himself when there are 2 jinchurkis right there to help him. The basho tenin can pull him but it is not unbeatable, naruto easily stopped with his kyubi arm so why can't susano which has many arms and a sword to stop it from going into motion. Any move from the susano is powerful might not be tru but it is most likely strong it is one of the most rarest of abilities u get from the sharingan. Why can't itachi use amaterasu and yaska magatami he sure can when he was sick against sasuke he spammed amaterasu, used susano, used alot of genjutsu and used regular ninjutsu, he can do more when he is healthy. you are also forgetting that in a 1v1 battle nagato won't get to many openings to even use his chibaku tensei, since most of his other techs can be blocked by yata mirror and the sword is also fast and has a good chance to seal him(like it did in the manga), the summonings can easily be dealt with amaterasu as shown in the manga. But kadowade is definitely wrong about 1 path at a time since we have seen him easily using like 3 paths at once but itachi can still counter them and has a pretty good chance at winning.

 

[Honord Sage]

Itachi was so week that He needed Naruto and Bee's help to put Nagato down, must be new math were 3 on 1 = 1 on 1.

 

[kellzfresh]

NAGATO IS STRONGER THAN ITACHI. I LIKE ITACHI MORE AND I LIKE SHARINGAN BUT ITACHI FANS JST HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT NAGATO IS STRONGER... [1]... In Naruto world no one listens to u unless u are stronger than them... Eg A and bee... Naruto and shikamarus dad... itachi and kisame, orochimaru, deidara...pain and naruto... Nagato is the leader of atkasuki and gave ORDERS to everyone EVEN ITACHI and no one ever refused... Itachi proved he is stronger dan orochimaru... And oro ran from the association and went in hiding... If itachi was stronger he wuld hav tried to say no to pain since atkasuki was becomin more of a threat to konoha... [2]... Itachi fans say nagato attacked konoha after itachi died cos he was SCARED of itachi... Dis is NOT true bcos he told hidan and atkasuki members that he had to seal them from 1 to 9 to not DISRUPT the BALANCE of the GEDO statue.. Even itachi told kisame.. If not pain wuld hav captured naruto anytime... [3]... No one in the naruto series can attack konoha and personally destroy it... Itachi killed ONE CLAN but nagato DESTROYED THE VILLAGE.. Even madara was scared to fight till he IMPLANTED the rinnegan and then HE SAID HE IS NOW READY FOR BATTLE.... [4]... Itachi fans say that itachi will put nagato in a genjutsu(VISUAL) but it is NOT TRUE.. Jiraya only put pain in senjutsu(SOUND) which pain did not expect jiraya to have.. Rinnegan has a higher doujutsu or eye power than sharingan dat is why madara said u will see more of the sage of six paths secrets MORE with RINNEGAN THAN MANGYEKO SHARINGAN.. It will definitely see through a genjutsu.. [5]... In fact Nagato has a COUNTER to all of itachis attacks.. (i).. Amaterasu - shinra tensei (ii).. Genjutsu - rinnigan will see thru it bcos it is not sound.. (iii).. Yata malgamata - he can pull any rock nearby to defend himself just as he did wen naruto was in six tails.. Surely yata malgamata is not as powerful as the sixtail attack wen four tails took down oros rashoumon.. (iv).. Susanos SEALING SWORD - surely shinera tensei on a high level is strong enough to deflect its path (since danzo used wood to deflect sasukes arrow and the arrow shuld b FASTER than the sealing sword).. (V) fire stye - he can absorb all ninjutsu If nagato starts his attacks he didnt use in the battle... (i).. Nagato could bring the GEDO Statue (raikages punch was stronger than danzos and injured sasuke even wen he used susano and amatersu... Just a blow from the GEDO which is 100 TIMES STRONGER wuld seriously injure itachi even with his susano (ii).. He could bring out that soul absorbing tech from the statue which is MORE powerful than the fourths dead reaper seal and it wuld pass thru susano and take his soul since it is spiritual not physical.. (iii).. Chibaku tensei will kill itachi if he is alone... It was strong enough to lift susano up... Only itachis yata malgamata is not enough to destroy chibaku tense bcos naruto in nine tails fired blasts at chibaku and it had no effect.. And nagato said HE CAN MAKE IT EVEN BIGGER... (iv).. Shinra tensei is strong enough to hold susano down jst as danzo summoned baku to hold susano while he attacked from the back where it was easily opened up.. Shinera tensei is surely stronger than the force of baku (unless u r saying danzo culd equally DESTROY the whole of KONOHA WITH THE BAKU jst like pain) whil shinera tensei attacks, the three headed sumoning can easily open up susano from the weak spot... [6]... Finally there is NO FIVE SECOND INTERVAL WITH SHINERA TENSEI IN HIS TRUE FORM.. Naruto said his jutsus were now faster and more powerful.. He can use all the paths in one body.. He can absorb chakra far more than samehada even if someone attacks with a powerful taijutsu like lariat.. He will just absorb the chakra of the attacker and reduce the power of the attack... NAGATO IS STRONGER THAN ITACHI.. THE ONLY THING THAT GIVES ITACHI A CHANCE IS BCOS HE IS SMART... RINNIGAN IS GREATER THAN SHARINGAN.. ACCEPT PAIN... FEAR PAIN.. ITACHI FANS CAN CORRECT ME IF THEY ARE STILL DOUBTING ME!!!

 

[NOemotions]

I personally like both characters equally, so anyone who thinks im a Nagato fanboy for saying this can go die in a pit.

Heres where your logic is wrong my blind friend:

A) No, Itachi did NOT destroy Chibaku Tensei, it was the COMBINED EFFORTS of Naruto, B AND Itachi that did that.

B) No, Itachi did NOT win against Nagato, he used the Tatsuka sword to seal his soul; In other words he cut the fight short before anything else could happen.

C) Theres a reason why NAGATO was the leader of Akatsuki, not ITACHI

And thats it.. ty sir REP!

 

[MyNinjaWay]

Nope how about we play this game, your an illogical idiot if you: Think Nagato cud beat Itachi 1v1, believe Nagato can absorb Sasoonu LOL, believe Nagato is immune to other visual jutsu, know that alone Itachi cudnt touch Nagato, think that Nagato is the strongest in Narutoverse. Because in reality Nagato is a failed student, peacemaker, and a sad clown who wanted the world to know pain! LOL hahahaha At least even after all the pain in Itachi's past he didnt become a dumass who wanted to kill ppl and thought he was god. LOL now watch the Nagato fanboys trip XD XD XD xd

Well im not a fanboy of either character so i wont trip all. I just know that you are an Itachi FANBOY if youd really sit here and debate whos strongest between a sharingan and rinnegan user...its already clear that one (the rinnegan) is on another level than the other (the sharingan) can a sharingan user do anything Nagato did?.....Nope would a sharingan user get owned fighting Nagato 1v1?...Yes
baka!

 

[Kira was Righteous]

Totally agree, and btw i am a fan of Pain too but i can see that Itachi is more powerful.

your an idiot to put it bluntly

1. those first two bold parts contradicts each other. as you have said genjutsu is a genjutsu no matter how you deliver it, so tsukuyomi is nothing different from koto amatsukami in terms of effectiveness. if koto affects the edo summons, why not tsukuyomi.lol. as simple logic as that you still fail to understand.

2. you're blinded by your love to itachi dude. admit it yata mirror can't deflect ANY attack. Chibaku tensei is an attack yet itachi did not use that to protect them from chibaku instead he resort by asking help from the 2 jinchuuriki.you cannot deny that. still you stick to what stated "it repels any attack" thing when in fact you know it cannot repel ALL attacks. admit it to yourself.

3. LOL dude. where does that "susanoo's weight" come from. its a CHAKRA how will it be heavy? and if its sooooo heavy as you imply then itachi should have burden CARRYING it LOL. what an ass, you made me laugh bringing up this non sense.. A chakra with weight.hahaha. its not a summon dude.

Nagato would need tremendous amount of chakra to lift susanoo?[?]hahaha. funniest shit you ever said dude. You saw manga it was lifted with ease when nagato use chibaku tensei.haha. Have you saw pain vs nine tails fight? He lifted a gigantic rock and drop it to kyubi. I doubt itachi would weigh as much as a boulder lol.

4. Again itachi will look dumb if he exhaust his chakra by just breaking chibaku. he knows himself better than you that's why he chose to have help from the 2 jinchuurikis. no speculations pls, based it on the manga we are reading.

5. ANY move from susanoo should be powerful?hahah. <--- being biased to the max dude.. I can also say that any MOVE from Nagato should be powerful enough to destroy susanoo coz rinnegan>sharingan. NUFF SAID!

6. Amaterasu Chibaku tensei?LOL. you're making your itachi look dumb in here dude. Itachi will never do that. he is waaaay more intelligent than you. he knows fire can't melt rocks instantly it will take a LLLLLOOOOOOOONG time before it will be destroyed. he'll be squished to death even before the rocks get hot. lol. and he might got caught on fire aswell. so, fail.

7. Nagato's move leaves to many opening? have you saw the recent manga dude? he mix and match paths to counter every attack naruto and bee throws at him. Where's the opening there? and if you read carefully the manga naruto even said that when nagato is complete his jutsus become stronger and faster. so, I doubt there's still the 5sec delay from shinra. besides that delay doesnt matter knowing he can just spam other paths while it is in "cooldown"

8. one path at a time? you really need to reread manga dude. nagato just used multiple paths at the same time in the recent fight dumbass. lol. preta path+asura path+human path were all used at the same time. or you still want me to bring up the evidence right into your face??


bottom line is: YOU NEED TO REREAD MANGA COZ IT SEEMS YOU'RE MISSING ALOT FROM THE PREVIOUS FIGHT ALONE. no wonder why you know little info of other character.worst is you're lacking knowledge even to your favorite itachi. that's just embarassing as a fanboy.really...

well said some points in there that i havent said and pretty much proven that Nagato would beat itachi which the itachi fanboys know deep down

Itachi was so week that He needed Naruto and Bee's help to put Nagato down, must be new math were 3 on 1 = 1 on 1.

itachi isnt weak but he cant beat Nagato

 

[Honord Sage]

you're an idiot to put it bluntly

well said some points in there that i havent said and pretty much proven that Nagato would beat itachi which the itachi fanboys know deep down
itachi isnt weak but he cant beat Nagato

If someone is stronger than you, then you are week compare to them, it's only logical. You can be strong and week at the same time your strong against people who are weaker than you and week against people who are stronger than you. It's a natural progression.

 

[Izanami]

 

[griems]

if someone is stronger than you, then you are week compare to them, it's only logical. You can be strong and week at the same time your strong against people who are weaker than you and week against people who are stronger than you. It's a natural progression.

it's weeeeeeeaaaaaak!!!!!

 

[Honord Sage]

it's weeeeeeeaaaaaak!!!!!

Fact of life disregarded at you own peril.

 

[griems]

Fact of life disregarded at you own peril.

No need to try and sound cool when 99% of all your posts are pure idiocy.

Again, enjoy ignorance. Pal. :lili:


Oh and this whole "discussion" aint even worth trying to reply seriously so no I won't bother.

 

[Honord Sage]

No need to try and sound cool when 99% of all your posts are pure idiocy.

Again, enjoy ignorance. Pal. :lili:


Oh and this whole "discussion" aint even worth trying to reply seriously so no I won't bother.

Idiot is the one that dose not accept a true t because it in conflict with their illusion of the world, you can not change what has happen, ones something happens it is true now and forever, you might as well try to change if you can the rising and the setting of the sun.