[Theory] Itachi is stronger than Nagato

[arv993]

Khadyz bansho tenin can be stopped like how naruto did with his kyubi arm, Itachi can use a sword, And chibaku tensei is slow and Itachi can seal him if he is close which he can be since nagato is not that fast, and yata can block most of the attacks thrown by nagato like shinra tensei, his summons, nature transformation attacks and also can seal him since the sword is fast and nagato did not even notice it in the manga and if he fails and dies he can sacrifice one eye and make everything a dream and use the opening to seal nagato. AND yes uchihas can use it at the cost of one eye.

 

[~Naruto&Itachi~]

LMAO you think just because someone dosen't use a Technique, It dosen't work.

OK Why didn't Pain use Chibaku Tensei on Konohamaru? Cause he can do WHATEVER THE FK HE WANTS. SO stop saying just because itachi didnt use a certain technique, it dosent work.

And Arv said stuff from the manga, And why do you keep denying That nagato isnt resistant to Genjutsu Jiraiya already proved that
Genjutsu is effective against Nagato, thats clear as Day.

And we dont know if Bansho Tensei can move susano'o Because we dont know the Mass and weight of Susano'o, and how much Pain can lift for an amount of time. (Although it would be stupid bringing Susano'o Towards you)

one itachi uses visual genjutsu and it wasn't jiraya but it was pa and ma frogs did use a hearing genjutsu

 

[Kyuubikiller]

You don't Think the Nagato fans went a little overboard, by blurtting out "Rinnegan is resistant To Genjutsu" When that has already been proven by Jiraiya it's not. lol

The only thing proven by Jiraiya is that frog song is one hell of an audio genjutsu, it isn't proven that he is weak to visual genjutsu. I won't go into that again because I have already dis-proven this.

overboard have u seen all the things some nagato fanboys say. When tthey can't provide valid reasons some of them list nagato's achievements which are totally irrelevant and some of them go tell to look at polls which are almost useless becus they vary so much and some ppl vote for who they like better. a good example would be when there was a thread "best akatsuki" and Itachi was no.1 by over like 30 votes its obviously not true and madra is clearly better than him, even Itachi in the manga states that. clearly u favor nagato over itachi cos i did not see u say anything to nagato fanboys who stated utter crap.

Well, you are right in the fact that I am in favor of Negato, but not because I think he could win against Itachi, I really don't care about that because that is just an endless debate that could go either way imo. What I am in favor of Negato for is the fact that I believe he has some resistance to a Sharingan genjutsu, which is something that people on both sides disagree on. This is where I favor sides because I think that with what I have provided, it should at least be a consideration, therefore should not be apart of the equation that could be a sure win for Itachi. The rest of this thread is pointless to me.

 

[kadowade]

one itachi uses visual genjutsu and it wasn't jiraya but it was pa and ma frogs did use a hearing genjutsu

*Sighs* ill say it again

Genjutsu Is Genjutsu: Dosent matter how it's delivered.

for example: I kick a ball at you, Then I Throw a Ball at you, The same thing Happened Right, The only thing diffrent was How it was delivered, But the Outcome and result was Exactly the same.

So once again Nagato most likely isnt immune to Genjutsu.

Even jiraiya's Sound Genjutsu Turned into a Visual setting. It showed Pain inside of some Cube, Pain saw himself inside of a cube, basically thats Visualisation since PAin had to "See/Visualize" that he was inside of an cube, and he couldnt even get out.

MA and PA had No Kekkei Genkai yet they still trapped nagato in genjutsu, so imagine a Kekkei Genkai user with a Mangekyou Sharingan.

 

[~Naruto&Itachi~]

*Sighs* ill say it again

Genjutsu Is Genjutsu: Dosent matter how it's delivered.

for example: I kick a ball at you, Then I Throw a Ball at you, The same thing Happened Right, The only thing diffrent was How it was delivered, But the Outcome and result was Exactly the same.

So once again Nagato most likely isnt immune to Genjutsu.

Even jiraiya's Sound Genjutsu Turned into a Visual setting. It showed Pain inside of some Cube, Pain saw himself inside of a cube, basically thats Visualisation since PAin had to "See/Visualize" that he was inside of an cube, and he couldnt even get out.

MA and PA had No Kekkei Genkai yet they still trapped nagato in genjutsu, so imagine a Kekkei Genkai user with a Mangekyou Sharingan.

ok if i have ears plugs and i can't hear anything therefore i am not gonna get into a hearing genjutsu or if i am blind will fall for a visual genjutsu? no.....

 

[khaydz5]

you are just ignorant. members of the uchiha can use it at the cost of one eye, it is kinjutsu in their clan becos of it and its better if it is accompanied by the senju dna go read the manga and stop wasting my time. uchiha members can use it senju dna makes it more efficient. And he seals anything he pierces just to let u kno. Ur the fanboy for not seeing the facts khadyz

hoho. you'll get pawned with this dude. you're such a loser hoping all uchiha clan can use it.

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izanagi - a technique that can only be used by someone possessing BOTH the powers of uchiha and senju!

so you effin STFU dude. incase you still don't understand the manga, ask your mother to read it for you. I want to bitchslap you so hard now coz of your dumbness.lol

 

[kadowade]

The only thing proven by Jiraiya is that frog song is one hell of an audio genjutsu, it isn't proven that he is weak to visual genjutsu. I won't go into that again because I have already dis-proven this.

And you dont think the sharingan posses "One hell of a Genjutsu" Since it was able to Tame the 9-tailed fox.

 

[arv993]

The only thing proven by Jiraiya is that frog song is one hell of an audio genjutsu, it isn't proven that he is weak to visual genjutsu. I won't go into that again because I have already dis-proven this.



Well, you are right in the fact that I am in favor of Negato, but not because I think he could win against Itachi, I really don't care about that because that is just an endless debate that could go either way imo. What I am in favor of Negato for is the fact that I believe he has some resistance to a Sharingan genjutsu, which is something that people on both sides disagree on. This is where I favor sides because I think that with what I have provided, it should at least be a consideration, therefore should not be apart of the equation that could be a sure win for Itachi. The rest of this thread is pointless to me.

what u r responding to is completely different u said when fans go overboard u would like to point it out but u only did to Itachi fans and not nagato fans but what u r responding to is completely different in my post u responded to i was not even talking about rinnegan and its resistance to genjutsu.

 

[arv993]

hoho. you'll get pawned with this dude. you're such a loser hoping all uchiha clan can use it.

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izanagi - a technique that can only be used by someone possessing BOTH the powers of uchiha and senju!

so you effin STFU dude. incase you still don't understand the manga, ask your mother to read it for you. I want to bitchslap you so hard now coz of your dumbness.lol

why the hell do u hav to curse in every sentence and that could be a mistake in translation when it said "only". Why is called a forbidden jutsu of the Uchiha clan when uchihas cannot even use it. and if u read on later he says that some only use an incomplete form of it, that is what uchihas have not a complete version

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Read about it here where it says uchiha have it but only an incomplete form but senju dna make it complete and more useful. The uchiha have a partial form of it and that is why it is called a forbidden tech of the uchiha becus they are able to use it but not in a complete form which requires senju's dna.

 

[khaydz5]

Khadyz bansho tenin can be stopped like how naruto did with his kyubi arm, Itachi can use a sword, And chibaku tensei is slow and Itachi can seal him if he is close which he can be since nagato is not that fast, and yata can block most of the attacks thrown by nagato like shinra tensei, his summons, nature transformation attacks and also can seal him since the sword is fast and nagato did not even notice it in the manga and if he fails and dies he can sacrifice one eye and make everything a dream and use the opening to seal nagato. AND yes uchihas can use it at the cost of one eye.

you should start to stfu seriously..

i'll quote it again

hoho. you'll get pawned with this dude. you're such a loser hoping all uchiha clan can use it.

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izanagi - a technique that can only be used by someone possessing BOTH the powers of uchiha and senju!

so you effin STFU dude. incase you still don't understand the manga, ask your mother to read it for you. I want to bitchslap you so hard now coz of your dumbness.lol

why the hell do u hav to curse in every sentence and that could be a mistake in translation when it said "only". Why is called a forbidden jutsu of the Uchiha clan when uchihas cannot even use it.

wtf dude seriously???

even if you remove "only" still it has the same meaning. you should really be cursed with your dumbness dude.

MISTAKE in translation? give me a break haha! do you know how to translate japanese?? do it yourself then. loser! stop making excuses coz you just got PAWNed!

 

[arv993]

you should start to stfu seriously..

i'll quote it again




wtf dude seriously???

even if you remove "only" still it has the same meaning. you should really be cursed with your dumbness dude.

MISTAKE in translation? give me a break haha! do you know how to translate japanese?? do it yourself then. loser! stop making excuses coz you just got PAWNed!

Izangi is in an incomplete form that is what uchihas use why would it be called uchiha's forbidden tech. This means that they can use it but not a complete form look

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he even says there are incomplete forms of it and that is the uchiha's

 

[kadowade]

you should start to stfu seriously..

i'll quote it again




wtf dude seriously???

even if you remove "only" still it has the same meaning. you should really be cursed with your dumbness dude.

MISTAKE in translation? give me a break haha! do you know how to translate japanese?? do it yourself then. loser! stop making excuses coz you just got PAWNed!

Dude it sais Izanagi can only be used by those with the genetic traits of the Sage of the Six Paths. The Uchiha, descended from the Sage, are able to perform Izanagi with their Sharingan. In exchange for the brief control of reality that it allows them, the Sharingan with which Izanagi is cast becomes blind. For this reason the Uchiha labelled it a kinjutsu.

 

[arv993]

Dude it sais Izanagi can only be used by those with the genetic traits of the Sage of the Six Paths. The Uchiha, descended from the Sage, are able to perform Izanagi with their Sharingan. In exchange for the brief control of reality that it allows them, the Sharingan with which Izanagi is cast becomes blind. For this reason the Uchiha labelled it a kinjutsu.

yea they won't label something as kinjutsu if the uchihas themselves cannot do it. the uchihas just have an incomplete form of it.

 

[Tobione]

if killer bee and naruto can get out of it easily i have no doubt nagato can do the same he is the user of the rinnegan counterpart or even creeator of the sharingan and byakugan ( not nagato the sage of the six paths original rinnegan user) i believe the rinnegan came first it obviously has almost unlimited jutsu capabilities of all different kinds of jutsu so i dont really see what th epoint in the arguement is here beside you itachi lovers will love itachi over anything... and genjustsu is awesome but overrated as when i turned the next page both were out even bee and who knows if bee was ever even familiar with genjutsu in the first place the first itme he saw a sharingan was his battle with sasuke

 

[khaydz5]

why the hell do u hav to curse in every sentence and that could be a mistake in translation when it said "only". Why is called a forbidden jutsu of the Uchiha clan when uchihas cannot even use it. and if u read on later he says that some only use an incomplete form of it, that is what uchihas have not a complete version

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Read about it here where it says uchiha have it but only an incomplete form but senju dna make it complete and more useful. The uchiha have a partial form of it and that is why it is called a forbidden tech of the uchiha becus they are able to use it but not in a complete form which requires senju's dna.

Izangi is in an incomplete form that is what uchihas use why would it be called uchiha's forbidden tech. This means that they can use it but not a complete form look

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he even says there are incomplete forms of it and that is the uchiha's

Dude it sais Izanagi can only be used by those with the genetic traits of the Sage of the Six Paths. The Uchiha, descended from the Sage, are able to perform Izanagi with their Sharingan. In exchange for the brief control of reality that it allows them, the Sharingan with which Izanagi is cast becomes blind. For this reason the Uchiha labelled it a kinjutsu.

yea they won't label something as kinjutsu if the uchihas themselves cannot do it. the uchihas just have an incomplete form of it.

YOU BOTH SHOULD ACCEPT FACT FROM MANGA THAT IT REQUIRES SENJU POWER TO USE IZANAGI.

yes its uchiha's technique but it REQUIRES SENJU POWER to USE it.

what's hard to understand in that? it clearly states in the manga yet you both still refuse what manga provides you. clearly you both are officially retarded.

you don't have any proof that every uchiha can use it. but in the manga only 2 person can use it.. danzo and madara. and they both possess senju dna.

mofos accept it. the evidence is right infront of you! lol

 

[kadowade]

YOU BOTH SHOULD ACCEPT FACT FROM MANGA THAT IT REQUIRES SENJU POWER TO USE IZANAGI.

yes its uchiha's technique but it REQUIRES SENJU POWER to USE it.

what's hard to understand in that? it clearly states in the manga yet you both still refuse what manga provides you. clearly you both are officially retarded.

you don't have any proof that every uchiha can use it. but in the manga only 2 person can use it.. danzo and madara. and they both possess senju dna.

mofos accept it. the evidence is right infront of you! lol

The uchiha are "desendants" therefore they can use it with their Sharingan.

 

[kadowade]

Dude the Sage of Six paths can use Izanagi- And Uchiha's Are Desendents of The Sage Of Six Paths.

 

[Tendo Pain]

Wow there is wayyyyy too many freakin Itachi fanboys out there with very weak arguements and Khaydz5 dude stop cussing in every sentence its a forum where people post they're opinions you dont need to cuss them out because you have a different one. Im not saying that i dislike Itachi but some of his fans are just rediculous not at Arv993 or Kadowade but some other people are just making up stuff that is not even in the manga.

 

[arv993]

YOU BOTH SHOULD ACCEPT FACT FROM MANGA THAT IT REQUIRES SENJU POWER TO USE IZANAGI.

yes its uchiha's technique but it REQUIRES SENJU POWER to USE it.

what's hard to understand in that? it clearly states in the manga yet you both still refuse what manga provides you. clearly you both are officially retarded.

you don't have any proof that every uchiha can use it. but in the manga only 2 person can use it.. danzo and madara. and they both possess senju dna.

mofos accept it. the evidence is right infront of you! lol

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look he says that even the uchiha clan can made it forbidden

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And he says "there is a time limit to it but he must have let orochimaru use experiments on him" and what oro gave him was the first's dna. the izangi can be used but not completely by the uchiha an "incomplete form' as madara says. something won't be named kinjutsu if they cannot even use it.

 

[Kyuubikiller]

And you dont think the sharingan posses "One hell of a Genjutsu" Since it was able to Tame the 9-tailed fox.

Well, that was Madara's Sharingan, so yea, his is one hell of a genjutsu.

what u r responding to is completely different u said when fans go overboard u would like to point it out but u only did to Itachi fans and not nagato fans but what u r responding to is completely different in my post u responded to i was not even talking about rinnegan and its resistance to genjutsu.

I never disputed anything about who wins the fight, don't put words in my mouth. I seem more on his side because the Itachi fans are really going overboard!! by saying he beat Negato by himself when he clearly had help and saying that his new technique, Yomega whatever could have destroyed chibaku tensei when he obviously needed Naruto and Bee's help, this thread is just really going overboard about Itachi, those are the only things I have said on this whole thread, plus the Rinnegan being immune. So really, all the Negato fans are just retaliating, and all I did was state the obvious, to a none fan anyway.