[Theory] Itachi is stronger than Nagato

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yes this is what i mean on paper Nagato is stronger but Itachi is apparently smarter and ill just go along with that but that makes it sound like Nagato is stupid hes been running a criminal organization for many years without getting caught so hes obviously not dumb :)

nagato is not dumb but he is not as smart as Itachi though
 

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In his complete form i think it would do nothing since an Extra Armor is PLaced around it.

1st stage survived Kirin, 2nd Stage has the Yata Mirror which wouldve Repeled the lightnening back. 3rd stage is the Extra Armor around it

Although it might budge Susano'o though but it shouldnt knock it down or anything

it doesnt matter dude kirin comes from the sky with a full force of lighting

but how would he dodge the sword u r forgetting that he hasn't shown much speed feats. and itachi is not that slow when he is in susano he saved naruto and bee pretty fast. If nagato tries to escape itachi wud try to get him with the sword and nagato is not really fast.

the manga is not anime dude it does not show how fast susano saved naruto and kb so that does not count and in the anime susano seemed slow
 

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but how would he dodge the sword u r forgetting that he hasn't shown much speed feats. and itachi is not that slow when he is in susano he saved naruto and bee pretty fast. If nagato tries to escape itachi wud try to get him with the sword and nagato is not really fast.

going on the anime it clearly shows from naruto shippuden episode 167 from 09:57 to 11:21 him ourunning the 9 tails check it out if you dont believe me and this is not his body as well he would have greater speed as Nagato because judging by what we have seen all his abilties are much stronger in 1 body.
 

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it doesnt matter dude kirin comes from the sky with a full force of lightin

Lightneing's a Chakra NAture isn't it..........
ANd Yata materializes into whatever Chakra type is opposed to it. So it would completley REpel that Lightning if he used Yata Mirror
 

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it doesnt matter dude kirin comes from the sky with a full force of lighting



the manga is not anime dude it does not show how fast susano saved naruto and kb so that does not count and in the anime susano seemed slow

the anime all itachi did was walk obviously it is slow if some one is walking. but if itachi wasn't fast then why was nagato suprised.



he quickly saved bee and naruto. how would he run away when the sword of totsuka can easily seal him, nagato is not that fast, itachi can easily attack him.
 

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the anime all itachi did was walk obviously it is slow if some one is walking. but if itachi wasn't fast then why was nagato suprised.



he quickly saved bee and naruto. how would he run away when the sword of totsuka can easily seal him, nagato is not that fast, itachi can easily attack him.

he was surprise because he was not focusing on itachi he was only focusing on naruto and kb is y nagato got shocked to c itachi that does not mean he was shocked on speed wise
 

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Lightneing's a Chakra NAture isn't it..........
ANd Yata materializes into whatever Chakra type is opposed to it. So it would completley REpel that Lightning if he used Yata Mirror

yes its jutsu but full force jutsu not even yata mirror would repel it i might protect itachi but not repel a full force technique
 

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going on the anime it clearly shows from naruto shippuden episode 167 from 09:57 to 11:21 him ourunning the 9 tails check it out if you dont believe me and this is not his body as well he would have greater speed as Nagato because judging by what we have seen all his abilties are much stronger in 1 body.

dude the nine tails was destroyed everything in his path and the path just avoided all his attacks like nine tails throwing rocks at him and avoided all the water becus he does hav all nature transfromations. it did not pinpoint attacks on the deva path(like the sword of totsuka did) it was everything around him and he used his powers of push and pull to move away fast which can't happen once he uses the attack on itachi. And also the plain motion of Itachi's hands or sword hitting the ground gives a shockwave that blew nagato's hands away and slowed him down. Nagato can't avoid that really fast we have not seen any speed feats from him to be that fast.


his hands blew away just by being close to the force of that attack and due to edo tesnei he was healed that fast bbut otherwise be injured heavily and slowed down.
 
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he was surprise because he was not focusing on itachi he was only focusing on naruto and kb is y nagato got shocked to c itachi that does not mean he was shocked on speed wise

Oh u r right on that one he was surprised that itachi attacked him.my bad his hands were the ones that grabbed naruto and bee, nagato is not fast dude he can't run away from a sword that we hav seen speed feats from, he can dodge it but is unlikely he has not shown much speed feats and itachi did seal him with the sword so why can't he do it again. And remember just from the shockwave of susano's hands nagato's arms blew away and which would obviously reduce his speed and the use of techs. He would not survive long after his shinra tensei is gone during his 5 seconds time limit, he would get slower and hurt more not to mention just get sealed like he was within a moment in the manga.
 
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Scroll down to "Itachi's Version"

Is tells you it makes the technique ineffective
 

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my bad his hands were the ones that grabbed naruto and bee, nagato is not fast dude he can't run away from a sword that we hav seen speed feats from, he can dodge it but is unlikely he has not shown much speed feats and itachi did seal him with the sword so why can't he do it again.

yes i know even if his not fast he would b fast enought to dodge susano's sword dude
 

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yes i know even if his not fast he would b fast enought to dodge susano's sword dude

ok even if he dodges it he would still get hurt by the shockwave from the susano which blew his arms away which only slows him down more and reduces the amount of techs he can do making him just more vulnerable. And the manga shows otherwise to ur statement that he can dodge it.

look he got nagato really fast b4 even noticing what hit him

His left hadn was just blown away just from susano hands hitting close to him, so he would definitely get hurt and would slow down even if he barely dodges his attack and just more vulnerable for another attack.
 
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ok even if he dodges it he would still get hurt by the shockwave from the susano which blew his arms away which only slows him down more and reduces the amount of techs he can do making him just more vulnerable. And the manga shows otherwise to ur statement that he can dodge it.

look he got nagato really fast b4 even noticing what hit him

His left hadn was just blown away just from susano hands hitting close to him, so he would definitely get hurt and would slow down even if he barely dodges his attack and just more vulnerable for another attack.

i know wut u mean he couldnt dodge that bc he was busy with naruto and killer bee if nagato didnt have kb than it would b a different story o and naruto to
 

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I personally like both characters equally, so anyone who thinks im a Nagato fanboy for saying this can go die in a pit.

Heres where your logic is wrong my blind friend:

A) No, Itachi did NOT destroy Chibaku Tensei, it was the COMBINED EFFORTS of Naruto, B AND Itachi that did that.

B) No, Itachi did NOT win against Nagato, he used the Tatsuka sword to seal his soul; In other words he cut the fight short before anything else could happen.

C) Theres a reason why NAGATO was the leader of Akatsuki, not ITACHI

C) Yea, Nagato is the one who created the group :) madara etc.... how on earth could Itachi become it's leader if he joined it later?

in other words there is not stronger/weeker it's all about luck or let's say plot, they are bouth outstanding ninjs, cheers!
 

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ok even if he dodges it he would still get hurt by the shockwave from the susano which blew his arms away which only slows him down more and reduces the amount of techs he can do making him just more vulnerable. And the manga shows otherwise to ur statement that he can dodge it.

look he got nagato really fast b4 even noticing what hit him

His left hadn was just blown away just from susano hands hitting close to him, so he would definitely get hurt and would slow down even if he barely dodges his attack and just more vulnerable for another attack.

lol what are you talking about. nagato's arm was caught by the susanoo arm.

if you read carefully the manga or look at it here:

it clearly shows itachi grab naruto with the arms of susanoo and one arm of nagato got caught on it.. not shockwave or anything lol. dude you're exaggerating things clearly you see things as an itachi fanboy/nagato hater.

you dumbass need to stop saying this non sense.

itachi can't take 2 jinchuurikis alone. but nagato did with ease. that alone can prove how superior nagato is compare to itachi.
 

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Itachi > Nagato

no close range he can use divine attraction suck his susanoo chakra with the deva path and long range celestial sphere, the way i see it itachi only has one move that would beat him and thats susanoo blade of totsuku and it can be dodged...easily
 

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Itachi is greater than Nagato 4 d following reasons;
1. Tsukuyomi- Itachi's strength is genjutsu, Nagato's weakness is genjutsu. Since Jiraiya got him with genjutsu I'm sure Itachi wud easily get him since he has d strongest genjutsu in d narutoverse. D reason why Itachi didn't bother in using Tsukuyomi is cos there's no point in wasting ur chakra on someone who cannot die.

2. Amateratsu- As seen in d last chapter Itachi already burned Nagato's hands b4 he cud do anything 2 counter it but due 2 d fact dat Nagato is an Edo Tensei it cud not destroy his hands so it regenerated back so he cud repelled it.

3. Totsuka Blade- Seals Nagato's soul. Many ppl say Itachi sealed Nagato but didn't kill him. Pls can u kill an Edo Tensei? Itachi knew d only way 2 kill him was by sealing him so dat's why he did.

4. Yata Mirror- It DEFLECTS ALL THINGS including Shinra Tensei.

5. Yasaka's Magatama- Itachi's strongest long range attack was capable of destroying Chikudan Tensei. 1 or 3 Yasaka's Magatamas wud destroy Chikudan Tensei. D reason why Itachi told all of them 2 contribute was due 2 d fact dat he was saving his chakra 4 future battles in d war. What if d person controllin Nagato sends someone stronger than Nagato 2 fight him immediately afta dis fight? Itachi is smart. He thought far ahead.

6. Smartness- I don't think anyone, even d most biased Nagato fan in Naruto wud oppose 2 d fact dat Itachi is smarter than Nagato

Pls if u wanna post in favor of Nagato only post so as 2 counter ALL my facts
 
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