[Theory] Itachi is stronger than Nagato

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WTF read it again users must also have the genetic traits of the Senju....IT IS MUST HAVE

dude pls be reasonable read the link properly this is what it says i will copy and paste it

To make full use of Izanagi, users must also have the genetic traits of the Senju, who are also descended from the Sage. For this reason Danzō had some of Hashirama Senju's DNA transplanted into his arm, which had the added benefit of increasing his physical energy and vitality. Madara Uchiha also makes use of Hashirama's DNA, though he claims to have gained control of it, unlike Danzō

To make full use of it that means that it is better if one has both senju and uchiha dna that is all it does not mean that uchiha cannot use it at all.
 

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nagato has not shown any great speed feats and he was sealed by the sword of totsuka so that is why he can be sealed but yea he can dodge but not likely. the chances of Itachi winning is greater that is what i am saying.

i know what u mean but this only happen because itachi had to nagato was only being controlled it wouldn't be a surprise that itachi finished im sealled him and also itachi had help but yea i agree on the speed part and same goes for nagato the chances of nagato winning is also possible
 

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basically izangi is allot stronger when the senju dna is involve lol is not as strong with just uchiha dna alone but it still works either way

yes it still works thank u for understanding.
 

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NO it don't work here is the whole thing from narutopedia:
Izanagi can only be used by those with the genetic traits of the Sage of the Six Paths. The Uchiha, descended from the Sage, are able to perform Izanagi with their Sharingan. In exchange for the brief control of reality that it allows them, the Sharingan with which Izanagi is cast becomes blind. For this reason the Uchiha labelled it a kinjutsu. Danzō Shimura, in an effort to make practical use of the jutsu, had ten Sharingan embedded into his right arm. He also had Orochimaru extend the lifespan of each Sharingan's Izanagi to a minute, allowing him to use the technique for up to ten minutes, with breaks in between as he deemed necessary. However, because Danzō is not an Uchiha, his chakra levels drop substantially every time a new Sharingan is used to activate the technique.

users must also have the genetic traits of the Senju, who are also descended from the Sage. For this reason Danzō had some of Hashirama Senju's DNA transplanted into his arm, which had the added benefit of increasing his physical energy and vitality. Madara Uchiha also makes use of Hashirama's DNA, though he claims to have gained control of it, unlike Danzō.

ok well i guess but madara does not have senju (i could be wrong) also theres no prove that madara really is madara dude also danzu had dna cells of hashirama thats the reason y he was able to use izangi
 

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dude pls be reasonable read the link properly this is what it says i will copy and paste it

To make full use of Izanagi, users must also have the genetic traits of the Senju, who are also descended from the Sage. For this reason Danzō had some of Hashirama Senju's DNA transplanted into his arm, which had the added benefit of increasing his physical energy and vitality. Madara Uchiha also makes use of Hashirama's DNA, though he claims to have gained control of it, unlike Danzō

To make full use of it that means that it is better if one has both senju and uchiha dna that is all it does not mean that uchiha cannot use it at all.
my bad i didn't read To make full use of Izanagi,
 

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i know what u mean but this only happen because itachi had to nagato was only being controlled it wouldn't be a surprise that itachi finished im sealled him and also itachi had help but yea i agree on the speed part and same goes for nagato the chances of nagato winning is also possible

i never said it was impossible for nagato to win but itachi's chances are a little bit better because genjutsu might work, sword of totsuka is fast, yata blocks everything and if all else fails can make evrything a dream by using izangi and finishing him off.
 

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ok well i guess but madara does not have senju (i could be wrong) also theres no prove that madara really is madara dude also danzu had dna cells of hashirama thats the reason y he was able to use izangi
and danzou had sharingan meaning uchiha blood and ithink you missed out where grandma tsunade said tobi is immortal because he has my grandpas(1st hokage also an senju) DNA
 

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i never said it was impossible for nagato to win but itachi's chances are a little bit better because genjutsu might work, sword of totsuka is fast, yata blocks everything and if all else fails can make evrything a dream by using izangi and finishing him off.

i know dude but u can't say that about itachi using izangi it has not been proven at all read the link again it says " users danzu, madara uchiha " it not include itachi but i still i can not agree or disagree that itachi has a better chance of winning because of the abilities that nagato has
 

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and danzou had sharingan meaning uchiha blood and ithink you missed out where grandma tsunade said tobi is immortal because he has my grandpas(1st hokage also an senju) DNA

yea i know i forgot to add about danzu having 12 or less sharingans and tobi is not importal yea sure its proven but is he really importal? from what i seen orochimaru had to gather vessels to stay alive whos to say madara did the same
 

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i never said it was impossible for nagato to win but itachi's chances are a little bit better because genjutsu might work, sword of totsuka is fast, yata blocks everything and if all else fails can make evrything a dream by using izangi and finishing him off.
well deva path can pull the whole Susanoo and Preta Path can absorb it since Susanoo is classified as a ninjutsu and you can't kill someone of using izanagi because if you could danzou would have done it and killed sasuke right of the back
 

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i know dude but u can't say that about itachi using izangi it has not been proven at all read the link again it says " users danzu, madara uchiha " it not include itachi but i still i can not agree or disagree that itachi has a better chance of winning because of the abilities that nagato has

Why would itachi ever use it he was never in a situation that bad to use it. but its stated that members of the uchiha clan can use it but it can be used to full extent if they have senju dna. dude it is clear as day where it says that members of the uchiha clan can use it and itachi is an uchiha so naturally he can use it if he really needs it.
 

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well deva path can pull the whole Susanoo and Preta Path can absorb it since Susanoo is classified as a ninjutsu and you can't kill someone of using izanagi because if you could danzou would have done it and killed sasuke right of the back

dude this is nagato vs itachi not his 6 paths, and if nagato comes to absorb it he wud be sealed by the sword of totsuka, and danzo was about to kill him but sasuke put him in genjutsu and tricked him. he also was about to kill him once with his sasuke's sword but was too slow at it and sasuke retaliated. this case won't happen becus itachi is extremely fast with his sword one moment is all he needs and he does this against nagato and orochimaru.
 
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Why would itachi ever use it he was never in a situation that bad to use it. but its stated that members of the uchiha clan can use it but it can be used to full extent if they have senju dna. dude it is clear as day where it says that members of the uchiha clan can use it and itachi is an uchiha so naturally he can use it if he really needs it.

not every single uchiha member can use it only those who r very skillful so is not ALL the uchiha clan can use it and itachi fought strong opponents and not once he used it heck he could of used it on the death of the clan if that was true than he wouldnt have madara's help but than again izangi is a mid range/long rang attack but from wut i have seen i doubt itachi would use it it any time soon if he can use it but as for now he can't only because from wut has been stated and shown in the manga
 

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dude this is nagato vs itachi not his 6 paths, and if nagato comes to absorb it he wud be sealed by the sword of totsuka, and danzo was about to kill him but sasuke put him in genjutsu and tricked him. he also was about to kill him once with his sasuke's sword but was too slow at it and sasuke retaliated. this case won't happen becus itachi is extremely fast with his sword.

mmmm well idk i can disagree or agree but i think susano is a chakra technique so maybe it could be obsorv (idk how to spell that)
 

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dude this is nagato vs itachi not his 6 paths, and if nagato comes to absorb it he wud be sealed by the sword of totsuka, and danzo was about to kill him but sasuke put him in genjutsu and tricked him. he also was about to kill him once with his sasuke's sword but was too slow at it and sasuke retaliated. this case won't happen becus itachi is extremely fast with his sword one moment is all he needs and he does this against nagato and orochimaru.
lol have you keeping up the manga because nagato can use all the paths ability at once like he did against naruto and bee
 

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mmmm well idk i can disagree or agree but i think susano is a chakra technique so maybe it could be obsorv (idk how to spell that)
read the classification it says it is a nin jutsu and preta path absorb any nin jutsu and proof:
 

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not every single uchiha member can use it only those who r very skillful so is not ALL the uchiha clan can use it and itachi fought strong opponents and not once he used it heck he could of used it on the death of the clan if that was true than he wouldnt have madara's help but than again izangi is a mid range/long rang attack but from wut i have seen i doubt itachi would use it it any time soon if he can use it but as for now he can't only because from wut has been stated and shown in the manga

dude it is staed in the manga that it is kinjutsu in the uchiha clan which means that ppl are not supposed to use it becos of its risk. And u are saing itachi is not skillful enough are u kidding he was the most skilled uchiha member in the clan. he can only use it twice and him needing madara's help was necessary he can't use it more than twice why would he waste his eyes like that.
 
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