[Theory] Itachi is stronger than Nagato

[kadowade]

I completely concede that Tsukiyomi could work on Nagato. On the timing of the Susanoo form, it does take time to complete it's form since but I guess that varies on Itachi's health at the time. I would argue that if it was instantaneous (we have a fully headed Itachi), why didn't he summon it in it's full form to save Bee/Naruto?

However Susanoo can be immobilized by the Celestial Moon technique, otherwise, Itachi could of summoned a fully Susanoo and Totuska sword Nagato instantly--instead he had to wait for the ninjutsi to be disrupted and to sword him.

Yata Mirror wise--yeah I agree. However most of Nagato's techniques aren't projectiles or even attacks but rather defensive maneuver The big question really is whether Nagato can absorb Susanoo.

Itachi didn't use Full mode Susano'o "Because he Didn't need to'' He mustv'e already knew nagato's attacks probably wasent enought to even destroy his 1st form.

He would've summoned the complete version IF he Needed It, so obviously he didn't Need it.

And we dont know if he can abosrb Susano'o, and it wouldn't be so smart to even Get that Close to Something as dangerous as Susano'o. (since nagato has to be extremely close, in contact) Nagato's would basically be BEgging to be sealed away or knocked back by yata mirror or getting burnt by Amaterasu.

So getting that close to tachi's Susano' would be extremely dangerous, since Susano' is BIG and it would basically take FOREVER to absorb it, and Trying to absorb would leave nagato Wide Open to getting Sealed.
Your best bet is 2 Stay the hell away from it.

 

[thelonghorn]

but the thing is itachi i think itachi did not have time to make into a complete version becos saving naruto and bee was more important to him so he just went in with an incomplete form he had to instantly activate and save them otherwise they would be dead. But when we see Itachi vs sasuke we saw it come out that fast so i am really sure a healthy itachi could do what a unhealthy itachi did at that time. nagato probably can absorb susano but if he tries to come close he would bee sealed by sword of totsuka.

Yeah that actually makes sense, collateral damage via Totuska sword wouldn'tbe too good. I'm thinking Itachi brought the full Susanoo out since he knew he was going to die anyway and was going to use all his chakra up one way or another.

 

[thelonghorn]

No one explained what Chibaku Tensei does so stop with all your bullshit about how Naruto told him, etc. Notice how Naruto is going ape-shit and Itachi already knows how to counter it?

He even answers the obvious as to how to make your attacks reach the core.


No one is arguing that Itachi "got lucky' against Chibaki Tensei--I am sure that due to his close ties with Nagato from Atakasui (sp), he was well aware of the ability and how to counteract it.

Once again we are talking Itachi vs Nagato--so let's say Itachi is in Susanoo and Nagato uses Chibaki Tensei.

Alone--I don't think he can break Chibaki Tensai since it took the combined efforts of Naruto/Bee.

 

[Inception]

I don't think anyone is arguing the ending of the chapter--Itachi sealed Nagato and hence Itachi won the battle against Nagato. Just like Nagato defeated Jiraiya, Sasuke defeated Itachi and Naruto defeated Nagato.

That is indisputable.

Q.E.D

However I think what most of this thread (and hell any thread comparing super hero/etc or what if) is that is Itachi stronger than Nagato?

Hence all these arguments on both side.

But do you notice how they don't see what kind of advantage Nagato had? They don't even see that Nagato was beating both Naruto and Bee. They don't realize that the human Nagato will not have the same advantages as the dead Edo Tensei Nagato being controlled by a mastermind.

People ARE arguing the ending of the chapter. Itachi sealed Nagato after defeating him and saving both Bee and Naruto. Just as in other chapters Madara confirmed that Itachi could have killed Sasuke. Yes, Sasuke won that battle that he was destined to win. Jiraiya did lose to Pain because he did not know his secret and Naruto did defeat Nagato's God Realm thanks to Konoha and Jiraiya. People might use Bee and Naruto in this fight as an excuse to say Nagato > Itachi which is not right. Bee and Naruto did what Itachi wanted so sure u can say that all 3 won vs. Nagato but what exactly did Bee and Naruto do?

They were losing until Itachi came in. It was Itachi who really fought him or even stood a chance.

I'm putting it as I saw it. Refer to my last post with images.

Alone--I don't think he can break Chibaki Tensai since it took the combined efforts of Naruto/Bee.

That's what you think hence it is your opinion. The use of Chibaku Tensei was unnecessary in the fight. It only showed that Itachi is a true genius and that Chibaku Tensei has a huge weakness. The fact that Itachi already knew what Chibaku Tensei was capable of and it's weakness leads me to believe that he was capable of disabling that jutsu on his own.

That's my opinion and if you don't agree with it, I could care less.

 

[Kira was Righteous]

wrong bee and naruto where more of a liability. if they wern't there itachi would seal nagato straight away.

this chapter has obviously sent nagato fans in super denial mode

seal him right away thats how much you hype itachi up that Nagato would justv stand there in awe of itachi and get sealed lol? Everyone here saying itachi would win are not seeing how powerful nagato is like someone said hes a min so6p is so much stronger than itachi
Amateseru is ineffective because of shinra tensei and revival path
tsyukami is ineffective probably because the rinnegan is a stronger dojustu and i believe that he has defences v this
Susanoo is hard to mantain can be asorbed by the deva path because its chakra and is not as invincible as you think it can be sucked by the celestial sphere as shown in the manga as i said i forsee if they ever 1v1 a susanoo stand off and his only defence is the sword of tutsuka every time he has stabbed someone they have been standing still your fanboy logic is riddiclous he needs to hit that person in the first place omg lol

 

[arv993]

No one explained what Chibaku Tensei does so stop with all your bullshit about how Naruto told him, etc. Notice how Naruto is going ape-shit and Itachi already knows how to counter it?

He even answers the obvious as to how to make your attacks reach the core.


No one is arguing that Itachi "got lucky' against Chibaki Tensei--I am sure that due to his close ties with Nagato from Atakasui (sp), he was well aware of the ability and how to counteract it.

Once again we are talking Itachi vs Nagato--so let's say Itachi is in Susanoo and Nagato uses Chibaki Tensei.

Alone--I don't think he can break Chibaki Tensai since it took the combined efforts of Naruto/Bee.

dude Itachi did not kno of tech tech and what it did, but figured it out by himself. But alone i don't think nagato has enough time to pull off a chibaku tensei which is not a fast attack and he would not regenerate his arms like he did when he was in an edo form.

 

[Inception]

seal him right away thats how much you hype itachi up that Nagato would justv stand there in awe of itachi and get sealed lol? Everyone here saying itachi would win are not seeing how powerful nagato is like someone said hes a min so6p is so much stronger than itachi
Amateseru is ineffective because of shinra tensei and revival path
tsyukami is ineffective probably because the rinnegan is a stronger dojustu and i believe that he has defences v this
Susanoo is hard to mantain can be asorbed by the deva path because its chakra and is not as invincible as you think it can be sucked by the celestial sphere as shown in the manga as i said i forsee if they ever 1v1 a susanoo stand off and his only defence is the sword of tutsuka every time he has stabbed someone they have been standing still your fanboy logic is riddiclous he needs to hit that person in the first place omg lol

You're over hyping Nagato too much :flaw:.

 

[thelonghorn]

But do you notice how they don't see what kind of advantage Nagato had? They don't even see that Nagato was beating both Naruto and Bee. They don't realize that the human Nagato will not have the same advantages as the dead Edo Tensei Nagato being controlled by a mastermind.

That is a really good point. I think the ambiguity of the Edo Tensei really blurs the outcome either way. One big unknown is Itachi's current status after breaking the Edo.

Is the only way to defeat him is to seal him? As I said before if it was "alive" Itachi, we wouldn't see the same offensive power as we saw in 551--we have learned that using the Sharingan has drastic impact on his chakra/power/stamina. If he has unlimited chakra I would say Edo (or whatever case he is right now) Itachi is the strongest ninja ever.

Hands down

Another good point is Amaterasu's impact on Nagato. Since he is Edoed you are right that it can't "kill him" and if he was alive and it connected, it would probably cause excruciating pain and immobilize him. However on the same token if he has the ability to repel it, I could imagine it difficult to connect.

 

[Uzumaki Sasuke]

Itachi is greater than Nagato 4 d following reasons;
1. Tsukuyomi- Itachi's strength is genjutsu, Nagato's weakness is genjutsu. Since Jiraiya got him with genjutsu I'm sure Itachi wud easily get him since he has d strongest genjutsu in d narutoverse. D reason why Itachi didn't bother in using Tsukuyomi is cos there's no point in wasting ur chakra on someone who cannot die.

2. Amateratsu- As seen in d last chapter Itachi already burned Nagato's hands b4 he cud do anything 2 counter it but due 2 d fact dat Nagato is an Edo Tensei it cud not destroy his hands so it regenerated back so he cud repelled it.

3. Totsuka Blade- Seals Nagato's soul. Many ppl say Itachi sealed Nagato but didn't kill him. Pls can u kill an Edo Tensei? Itachi knew d only way 2 kill him was by sealing him so dat's why he did.

4. Yata Mirror- It DEFLECTS ALL THINGS including Shinra Tensei.

5. Yasaka's Magatama- Itachi's strongest long range attack was capable of destroying Chikudan Tensei. 1 or 3 Yasaka's Magatamas wud destroy Chikudan Tensei. D reason why Itachi told all of them 2 contribute was due 2 d fact dat he was saving his chakra 4 future battles in d war. What if d person controllin Nagato sends someone stronger than Nagato 2 fight him immediately afta dis fight? Itachi is smart. He thought far ahead.

6. Smartness- I don't think anyone, even d most biased Nagato fan in Naruto wud oppose 2 d fact dat Itachi is smarter than Nagato

Pls if u wanna post in favor of Nagato only post so as 2 counter ALL my facts

 

[arv993]

seal him right away thats how much you hype itachi up that Nagato would justv stand there in awe of itachi and get sealed lol? Everyone here saying itachi would win are not seeing how powerful nagato is like someone said hes a min so6p is so much stronger than itachi
Amateseru is ineffective because of shinra tensei and revival path
tsyukami is ineffective probably because the rinnegan is a stronger dojustu and i believe that he has defences v this
Susanoo is hard to mantain can be asorbed by the deva path because its chakra and is not as invincible as you think it can be sucked by the celestial sphere as shown in the manga as i said i forsee if they ever 1v1 a susanoo stand off and his only defence is the sword of tutsuka every time he has stabbed someone they have been standing still your fanboy logic is riddiclous he needs to hit that person in the first place omg lol

yes he has rinnegan it does not mean he is completely immune to high lvl genjutsu like tsukiyomi. and you are forgetting that sword of totsuka is a very fast attack and extends also, the pretha path has to be close to suck in the chakra itachi would easily seal him if he tries to get close. Stop using stuff like he has rinnegan so he can beat anyone logic and start using only the powers that they have shown us that shows ur fanboyism. nagato' spath have been caught by genjutsu so why can't his own body and remember that itachi's attacks are also faster so in a fight with info itachi would win cos he would not let nagato pull of chibaku tensei and would try to seal him orr use genjutsu. nagato is not on the lvl of the so6p he is not and can definitely be beaten by other extremely skilled characters like minato, madara,itachi and maybe a few others like kabuto, naruto(not now but eventually) and sasuke with ems.

 

[thelonghorn]

Itachi is greater than Nagato 4 d following reasons;
1. Tsukuyomi- Itachi's strength is genjutsu, Nagato's weakness is genjutsu. Since Jiraiya got him with genjutsu I'm sure Itachi wud easily get him since he has d strongest genjutsu in d narutoverse. D reason why Itachi didn't bother in using Tsukuyomi is cos there's no point in wasting ur chakra on someone who cannot die.

2. Amateratsu- As seen in d last chapter Itachi already burned Nagato's hands b4 he cud do anything 2 counter it but due 2 d fact dat Nagato is an Edo Tensei it cud not destroy his hands so it regenerated back so he cud repelled it.

3. Totsuka Blade- Seals Nagato's soul. Many ppl say Itachi sealed Nagato but didn't kill him. Pls can u kill an Edo Tensei? Itachi knew d only way 2 kill him was by sealing him so dat's why he did.

4. Yata Mirror- It DEFLECTS ALL THINGS including Shinra Tensei.

5. Yasaka's Magatama- Itachi's strongest long range attack was capable of destroying Chikudan Tensei. 1 or 3 Yasaka's Magatamas wud destroy Chikudan Tensei. D reason why Itachi told all of them 2 contribute was due 2 d fact dat he was saving his chakra 4 future battles in d war. What if d person controllin Nagato sends someone stronger than Nagato 2 fight him immediately afta dis fight? Itachi is smart. He thought far ahead.

6. Smartness- I don't think anyone, even d most biased Nagato fan in Naruto wud oppose 2 d fact dat Itachi is smarter than Nagato

1. Completely agree--I'll concede that point. Only way Nagato would have a chance is if he had his 6 bodies but that would sequester his powers.

2. In the manga you'll notice he repelled it with his hands entact. I agree that if Nagato doesn't react fast enough that he'll be BBQ.

3. Agreed. Totuska sword >> anything.

4. Not sure if it can "reflect" suction though the concept of Newtonian Mechanics in Naruto is fuzzy at best.

5. Not sure if that is the right reasoning--I still think that the combined efforts broke the ball. I agree that Itachi had the reasoning and knew how to exploit it but the raw power, not too sure.

6. Agreed--Itachi is much smarter than Nagato.

Also--after re-reading the chapter it is clear that Itachi's eyes do bleed (after Amaterasu). So it would seem that he is still constrained by Sharingan--but that begs the question, if he can't really die , does it matter?

 

[arv993]

Guys one reason why nagato is not exactly the sage in a mini version is becus nagato only has the rinnegan where as he does not have the other paths like the uchiha dna or the senju dna which would allow him to use genjutsu, have extreme physical energy and he would also be able to use izangi to create anything he wanted, something that only madara is getting towards now. Nagato is only one of the six paths not all in one so if genjutsu from the sharingan works on nagato it does not mean it works on the sage himself becos he has other paths which means other abilities like having genjutsu techs even one like Izangi.

 

[kadowade]

seal him right away thats how much you hype itachi up that Nagato would justv stand there in awe of itachi and get sealed lol? Everyone here saying itachi would win are not seeing how powerful nagato is like someone said hes a min so6p is so much stronger than itachi
Amateseru is ineffective because of shinra tensei and revival path
tsyukami is ineffective probably because the rinnegan is a stronger dojustu and i believe that he has defences v this
Susanoo is hard to mantain can be asorbed by the deva path because its chakra and is not as invincible as you think it can be sucked by the celestial sphere as shown in the manga as i said i forsee if they ever 1v1 a susanoo stand off and his only defence is the sword of tutsuka every time he has stabbed someone they have been standing still your fanboy logic is riddiclous he needs to hit that person in the first place omg lol

AMaterasu almost killed Nagato, It just that in Edo TEnsei form He regenerated his body and was able to repel it by using Shinra Tensei.

WATCH EPISODE 82, ONLY A UCHIHA WITH AN SHARINGAN AND THE SAME BLOOD FLOWING WITHIN HIM CAN COUNTER TSUKIYOMI. Kishi has already spoken in episode 82 part 1, thats all the proof you need, if you "Still' Deny that you can't accept nothing. which is sad. U_U

Itachi was able to maintain Susano'o for like 6 minutes when he was Sick, which was when he was fighting Sasuke. And he even Reactivated it Twice. WHILE HE WAS SICK coughing up blood already.

So imagine him ''Not SIck'' he would do twice as much as he could ever do when he "was" Sick.

And Where do it say Nagato can absorb Susano'o. That is unknown.
And plus getting that close to Susano'o is Suicide. So the smart thing to do is STAY Away from something that will Seal you away or, Knock you back with Yata Mirror. And it will take FOREVER absorbing something with the mass and capacity and size of Itachi's Susano'o. He would get sealed while trying to absorb it. Plus Itachi can use techniques "Inside of Susano'o such as Genjutsu. And nagato Have to stand still to absorb Susano'o and nagato would be an easy target to get stabbed by Totsuku blade.

All of Nagato's arsenal of Physical/Ninjutsu is futile when it comes to Genjutsu, that would have him using up chakra fighting Illusions without even knowing. And we've almost never seen ITachi even get hit with an Physical attack ever. Except when Sasuke used that rigged shuriken, which hit him because his sickness interfered at the worst time. (Even zetsu said he wouldve dodged that) Itachi was always fooling people with clones and Genjutsu, what makes you think he can't fool Nagato who is defiantly not on the same level of intellegence of the other people itachi fought. especially kakashi, kakashi even fooled pain with an lightning clone, since pain is nothing but a powerhouse with a little brain.

 

[PositiveEmotions]

Guys one reason why nagato is not exactly the sage in a mini version is becus nagato only has the rinnegan where as he does not have the other paths like the uchiha dna or the senju dna which would allow him to use genjutsu, have extreme physical energy and he would also be able to use izangi to create anything he wanted, something that only madara is getting towards now. Nagato is only one of the six paths not all in one so if genjutsu from the sharingan works on nagato it does not mean it works on the sage himself becos he has other paths which means other abilities like having genjutsu techs even one like Izangi.

i agree but remember madara captured him with that huge statue so we do not know his full techniques on his own and not be stuck on some tree or whatever i think nagato was really strong if u ask me he manage to kill jiraiya with no problem wuts so ever

 

[PositiveEmotions]

AMaterasu almost killed Nagato, It just that in Edo TEnsei form He regenerated his body and was able to repel it by using Shinra Tensei.

WATCH EPISODE 82, ONLY A UCHIHA WITH AN SHARINGAN AND THE SAME BLOOD FLOWING WITHIN HIM CAN COUNTER TSUKIYOMI. Kishi has already spoken in episode 82 part 1, thats all the proof you need, if you "Still' Deny that you can't accept nothing. which is sad. U_U

Itachi was able to maintain Susano'o for like 6 minutes when he was Sick, which was when he was fighting Sasuke. And he even Reactivated it Twice. WHILE HE WAS SICK coughing up blood already.

So imagine him ''Not SIck'' he would do twice as much as he could ever do when he "was" Sick.

And Where do it say Nagato can absorb Susano'o. That is unknown.
And plus getting that close to Susano'o is Suicide. So the smart thing to do is STAY Away from something that will Seal you away or, Knock you back with Yata Mirror. And it will take FOREVER absorbing something with the mass and capacity and size of Itachi's Susano'o. He would get sealed while trying to absorb it. Plus Itachi can use techniques "Inside of Susano'o such as Genjutsu. And nagato Have to stand still to absorb Susano'o and nagato would be an easy target to get stabbed by Totsuku blade.

All of Nagato's arsenal of Physical/Ninjutsu is futile when it comes to Genjutsu, that would have him using up chakra fighting Illusions without even knowing. And we've almost never seen ITachi even get hit with an Physical attack ever. Except when Sasuke used that rigged shuriken, which hit him because his sickness interfered at the worst time. (Even zetsu said he wouldve dodged that) Itachi was always fooling people with clones and Genjutsu, what makes you think he can't fool Nagato who is defiantly not on the same level of intellegence of the other people itachi fought. especially kakashi, kakashi even fooled pain with an lightning clone, since pain is nothing but a powerhouse with a little brain.

this is true but killer bee counter the tysuki (idk how to spell it) against sasuke hawk aka taka killer bee explained why he was able to escape for sasuke's tysuki (idk how to spell it)

 

[arv993]

i agree but remember madara captured him with that huge statue so we do not know his full techniques on his own and not be stuck on some tree or whatever i think nagato was really strong if u ask me he manage to kill jiraiya with no problem wuts so ever

i am not saying that he is not strong(he is extremely powerful as shown in the last episode) but ppl who say that he is exactly like the sage of six paths and that genjutsu won't work on him is foolish becos he is not really exactly like the s06p becos the s06p has the dna of both uchiha and senju which he does not and that is one of the reasons u don't see him using wide variety of genjutsu or even the most ultimate genjiutsu like Izangi which the sage used to create anything. All i am saying that is not immune to genjutsu like ppl say he is.

 

[Izanami]

You're over hyping Nagato too much :flaw:.

Itachi is greater than Nagato 4 d following reasons;
1. Tsukuyomi- Itachi's strength is genjutsu, Nagato's weakness is genjutsu. Since Jiraiya got him with genjutsu I'm sure Itachi wud easily get him since he has d strongest genjutsu in d narutoverse. D reason why Itachi didn't bother in using Tsukuyomi is cos there's no point in wasting ur chakra on someone who cannot die.

2. Amateratsu- As seen in d last chapter Itachi already burned Nagato's hands b4 he cud do anything 2 counter it but due 2 d fact dat Nagato is an Edo Tensei it cud not destroy his hands so it regenerated back so he cud repelled it.

3. Totsuka Blade- Seals Nagato's soul. Many ppl say Itachi sealed Nagato but didn't kill him. Pls can u kill an Edo Tensei? Itachi knew d only way 2 kill him was by sealing him so dat's why he did.

4. Yata Mirror- It DEFLECTS ALL THINGS including Shinra Tensei.

5. Yasaka's Magatama- Itachi's strongest long range attack was capable of destroying Chikudan Tensei. 1 or 3 Yasaka's Magatamas wud destroy Chikudan Tensei. D reason why Itachi told all of them 2 contribute was due 2 d fact dat he was saving his chakra 4 future battles in d war. What if d person controllin Nagato sends someone stronger than Nagato 2 fight him immediately afta dis fight? Itachi is smart. He thought far ahead.

6. Smartness- I don't think anyone, even d most biased Nagato fan in Naruto wud oppose 2 d fact dat Itachi is smarter than Nagato

yes he has rinnegan it does not mean he is completely immune to high lvl genjutsu like tsukiyomi. and you are forgetting that sword of totsuka is a very fast attack and extends also, the pretha path has to be close to suck in the chakra itachi would easily seal him if he tries to get close. Stop using stuff like he has rinnegan so he can beat anyone logic and start using only the powers that they have shown us that shows ur fanboyism. nagato' spath have been caught by genjutsu so why can't his own body and remember that itachi's attacks are also faster so in a fight with info itachi would win cos he would not let nagato pull of chibaku tensei and would try to seal him orr use genjutsu. nagato is not on the lvl of the so6p he is not and can definitely be beaten by other extremely skilled characters like minato, madara,itachi and maybe a few others like kabuto, naruto(not now but eventually) and sasuke with ems.

AMaterasu almost killed Nagato, It just that in Edo TEnsei form He regenerated his body and was able to repel it by using Shinra Tensei.

WATCH EPISODE 82, ONLY A UCHIHA WITH AN SHARINGAN AND THE SAME BLOOD FLOWING WITHIN HIM CAN COUNTER TSUKIYOMI. Kishi has already spoken in episode 82 part 1, thats all the proof you need, if you "Still' Deny that you can't accept nothing. which is sad. U_U

Itachi was able to maintain Susano'o for like 6 minutes when he was Sick, which was when he was fighting Sasuke. And he even Reactivated it Twice. WHILE HE WAS SICK coughing up blood already.

So imagine him ''Not SIck'' he would do twice as much as he could ever do when he "was" Sick.

And Where do it say Nagato can absorb Susano'o. That is unknown.
And plus getting that close to Susano'o is Suicide. So the smart thing to do is STAY Away from something that will Seal you away or, Knock you back with Yata Mirror. And it will take FOREVER absorbing something with the mass and capacity and size of Itachi's Susano'o. He would get sealed while trying to absorb it. Plus Itachi can use techniques "Inside of Susano'o such as Genjutsu. And nagato Have to stand still to absorb Susano'o and nagato would be an easy target to get stabbed by Totsuku blade.

All of Nagato's arsenal of Physical/Ninjutsu is futile when it comes to Genjutsu, that would have him using up chakra fighting Illusions without even knowing. And we've almost never seen ITachi even get hit with an Physical attack ever. Except when Sasuke used that rigged shuriken, which hit him because his sickness interfered at the worst time. (Even zetsu said he wouldve dodged that) Itachi was always fooling people with clones and Genjutsu, what makes you think he can't fool Nagato who is defiantly not on the same level of intellegence of the other people itachi fought. especially kakashi, kakashi even fooled pain with an lightning clone, since pain is nothing but a powerhouse with a little brain.

i am not saying that he is not strong(he is extremely powerful as shown in the last episode) but ppl who say that he is exactly like the sage of six paths and that genjutsu won't work on him is foolish becos he is not really exactly like the s06p becos the s06p has the dna of both uchiha and senju which he does not and that is one of the reasons u don't see him using wide variety of genjutsu or even the most ultimate genjiutsu like Izangi which the sage used to create anything. All i am saying that is not immune to genjutsu like ppl say he is.

your a itachi fannboy who cant take Nagato is much stronger thdn itachi its pathetic really read the manga and stfu

 

[arv993]

your a itachi fannboy who cant take Nagato is much stronger thdn itachi its pathetic really read the manga and stfu

the fact that you couldn't prove any of our valid points wrong shows how much of nagato fanboy you are. Just cos u say other ppl are fanboys when they are actually putting put valid evidence doesn't mean that they are wrong

 

[thelonghorn]

After all these good points, I think I'd now put my money on Itachi in a fight vs Nagato.

The only realistic (which is sort of funny since we are arguing Fantasy) way Nagato could win was if he used all 6 forms--since Itachi would have to use his Sharingan to take out one body but that would leave him open to attacks from the 5 other ones. Though--I am convinced that the 6 bodies on their own aren't as powerful as Nagato. Another conclusion is that if Nagato is able to absorb Itachi's chakra--then it would be end game for Itachi but I think outside of using force pull, it isn't likely. The use of the Demon head might be another likely strategy (I'm not sure if one can use attacks when captured).

However I think that Itachi would be able to factor all these considerations in a fight and be able to win--hell even Kabuto put Itachi on another level.

 

[kadowade]

this is true but killer bee counter the tysuki (idk how to spell it) against sasuke hawk aka taka killer bee explained why he was able to escape for sasuke's tysuki (idk how to spell it)

Yes, but bee Escaped Sasuke's Genjutsu, which madara said was inferior to Itachi's level. And bee had Hachibi.

But as you can see Nagato has no Bijuu, so Nagato has like no chance or hope of even trying to escape even Sasuke's

So trying to escape one with the uniqueness as Itachi's is hopeless.
Its proven only sasuke can Escape Itachi's.

Why do you think when Itachi was saying "Only an uchiha with a sharingan and the same bloodline limit as me can counter it" IT showed a Picture Of Sasuke....