Sasuke did NOT have his powers given to him

[captainEO]

what about cursed seal?
mangekyo sharingan?
eternal mangekyo sharingan?

i mean EMS is (one of?) the final form of the sharingan also being the strongest form, what did sasuke do to get it? he took itachis eyes and after that he just rested a very long time even now hes still recovering in the manga... so he got on par with narutos kyuubi mode just by stealing eyes and resting for 70 chapters while naruto had to defeat the kyuubi to get his powers??

yes he didnt always get his powers, he worked hard on raiton element jutsus but thats pretty much it...

read what I said about the curse mark and mangekyou on the first page.
and read what I said above this post about being handed tools

 

[Migualon J.J.]

he never even saw Lee use his taijutsu (improved technique against Gaara) he had to imagine Lee fighting. even then as a feat it was impressive gaining praise from both the copy ninja and guy sensei. Also the difficulty of the task itself is lost on us because

1 - Sasuke is cool, you know what cool means? he doesn't explicitly show how difficult something is for him because he's... cool.

2- Sasuke is a genius, and I present to you relative difficulty. Sasuke's makes things seem easy because he's smart. Like Einstein may make a maths problem seem easy because he solves it in no time. when in actuality that problem is freakishly difficult and it would take a normal person ages to solve that very same problem

here's a knife, here's a katana, and don't forget your nunchucks,
see ya later
it's not like if I gave you these things you'd be able to engage in knife combat with an A class Russian spy. you also wouldn't be able to parry a kenjutsu master's strike, neither would your use of nunchucks be able match an experienced japanese sensei's

um, HELLO, because of CM he did defeat naruto in Part 1. and he DID see lee use his taijutsu, if you didn´t notice, they FOUGHT IN PART 1, BEFORE CHUUNIN EXAMS. + if he would be so intelligent, than he wouldn´t want to DESTROY KONOHA, now would he? and because of CM he survived against deidara if you didn´t notice

 

[Jupiter]

read what I said about the curse mark and mangekyou on the first page.
and read what I said above this post about being handed tools

dude theres a difference between suffering for power and working hard for power...

working hard for power is training all day fighting to get more power and never stop training, just like naruto

suffering for power is what sasukes doing, sure hes suffering of all his powers, but still that doesnt change the fact that almost everything was given to him...

 

[Jupiter]

the only reason Naruto was able to use sage mode was because the kyuubi's chakra mixed with his own granting him with more "natural" chakra hence why he could train to become a sage

lol thats the complete opposite...

the kyuubi was an obstacle for naruto to train for sage mode...
ma and pa couldnt even emerge with him because of the nine tails

btw naruto has incredible chakra even without the kyuubi (hes an uzumaki)

 

[Rami105]

DUDEEEEE!!! sasuke did jack! only he traind for 1 moth to obtain chidori then he didn't needed to work for curse mark MS and ems

 

[Talk No Jutsu]

he never even saw Lee use his taijutsu (improved technique against Gaara) he had to imagine Lee fighting. even then as a feat it was impressive gaining praise from both the copy ninja and guy sensei. Also the difficulty of the task itself is lost on us because

1 - Sasuke is cool, you know what cool means? he doesn't explicitly show how difficult something is for him because he's... cool.

2- Sasuke is a genius, and I present to you relative difficulty. Sasuke's makes things seem easy because he's smart. Like Einstein may make a maths problem seem easy because he solves it in no time. when in actuality that problem is freakishly difficult and it would take a normal person ages to solve that very same problem

here's a knife, here's a katana, and don't forget your nunchucks,
see ya later
it's not like if I gave you these things you'd be able to engage in knife combat with an A class Russian spy. you also wouldn't be able to parry a kenjutsu master's strike, neither would your use of nunchucks be able match an experienced japanese sensei's

1) Sasuke Cool? ... He's an Emo ... and needs Anger Management xd ...

2) Sasuke is MENT to be a Genuis ... He represents the Genuis side of the Story ... Naruto = Hard working/ Failure .... Sasuke = Genuis ... Naruto worked for Rasenshuriken, Rasengan, Shadow Clone, Summoning Jutsu, Sage mode, Chakra mode, TBB, Sage-enhanced Rasenshuriken, Frog Katas ... etc ..

While we only got to see Sasuke working hard to Chidori and it's varietans ...

Sasuke got Curse Mark for Free, MS for Free, EMS for Free, Amaterasu for Free, Susanoo for Free ...

:flaw:

 

[captainEO]

dude theres a difference between suffering for power and working hard for power...

working hard for power is training all day fighting to get more power and never stop training, just like naruto

suffering for power is what sasukes doing, sure hes suffering of all his powers, but still that doesnt change the fact that almost everything was given to him...

1 - Sasuke is cool, you know what cool means? he doesn't explicitly show how difficult something is for him because he's... cool.

2- Sasuke is a genius, and I present to you relative difficulty. Sasuke's makes things seem easy because he's smart. Like Einstein may make a maths problem seem easy because he solves it in no time. when in actuality that problem is freakishly difficult and it would take a normal person ages to solve that same problem

it may take months for naruto to learn to use a certain jutsu
it will take sasuke a week. why? because sasuke is a genius, he's smarter than naruto and he learns quicker

when naruto struggles to perform jutsu, he will moan, scream and cry out.
when sasuke struggles to perform a jutsu, he will behave calmly and remain collected. why? because he's cool and his character was made that way

because of these two things it appears like Sasuke does not work hard when that is not the case.

in addition like i said in my previous post, if i were to give you a katana and told you train to use it. a week later you'd suck, a month you'd still suck, several months later you'd be terrible, several years later you'd only be decent.
"Given" mangekyou sharingan doesn't = full mastery over it

 

[Frozenstein]

i just wonder why everyone skip my post. ="(

 

[captainEO]

no. i don't know where did you get this but totally wrong. because of the kyuubi he can't merge with Ma and Pa, but the kyuubi's chakra doesn't have any business with sage mode.

about Sasuke, yes he get his powers for "free". Susanoo, Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi (or how do you spell it) all given to him by Itachi he didn't even trained for it. MS also awakened by Itachi. EMS given to him by Madara (Itachi's eyes...). I don't know how he awakened his 1 tomoe sharingan, but the 2 tomoe awakened against Haku, the 3 tomoe against Naruto, both of them in battle not by actual training, it's just awakened out of nowhere. curse mark also given to him by Orochimaru, the only thing he had to do is to remain alive. the only thing he had to train is his chidori and it's variets.

some of you are saying for all of these he had to pay. but what? and train. but how? he didn't payed for the curse mark, he only wanted to be alive to kill Itachi. it's not payment, not training, it's nothing. everything Itachi gave him was also free. a gift for his little brother. Itachi was sick and almost dead, but if he decide not to fight with Sasuke he would never get MS and it's power at all. but they fought and Itachi died for Sasuke's sake and gave him his powers. it was a hard training? no. it was a payment? not really. Itachi would be dead either way if they fought or not. it was a gift. yes.

to finish my post, I'm not hating Sasuke however i don't like him at all. almost everything was given to him.

when naruto was born the kyuubi was sealed inside him with a specific seal that allowed for the kyuubi's chakra to mix with his own thereby granting a much larger than average reserve of chakra.

Itachi didn't give him any of his mangekyou techniques. that Amaterasu was a once off thing

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Sharingan awakens in stressful situtations (itachi massacre, haku fight, naruto fight, itachi's death...)
that's how the kekkei genkei works. The curse mark is poison no one wants that, it only destroys one's body (because it's poison) and destroys their mind as well (makes them psycho). he didn't ask for the curse mark, he could have died as well since only 1/10 people survive it

there's no other way to gain EMS

 

[-Liquid Cefka-]

Fanboy, Sasuke was given everything. saying otherwise makes you look stupid. simple as that

 

[captainEO]

1) Sasuke Cool? ... He's an Emo ... and needs Anger Management xd ...

2) Sasuke is MENT to be a Genuis ... He represents the Genuis side of the Story ... Naruto = Hard working/ Failure .... Sasuke = Genuis ... Naruto worked for Rasenshuriken, Rasengan, Shadow Clone, Summoning Jutsu, Sage mode, Chakra mode, TBB, Sage-enhanced Rasenshuriken, Frog Katas ... etc ..

While we only got to see Sasuke working hard to Chidori and it's varietans ...

Sasuke got Curse Mark for Free, MS for Free, EMS for Free, Amaterasu for Free, Susanoo for Free ...

:flaw:

Sasuke worked to learn fire style jutsu, 2 tomoe, 3 tomoe, achieve partial curse mark transformations, chidori, chidori nagashi, chidori senbon, chidori stream, kenjutsu, summoning jutsu, kirin, his shunshin no jutsu to master Amaterasu, to master susano'o ... etc ...

 

[foxboy]

u guys who love sauske r so noob, naruto was handed the nine tails , not by choice, and the only fights he has used it in, is haku, orochimaru, pain, sauske, hes only used the fox for like 4 to 5 fights all together, sauske uses his sharingan at any point in time...


like seriously, stop complianing, sauske is an evil douche and naruto is fighting for peace.

 

[captainEO]

um, HELLO, because of CM he did defeat naruto in Part 1. and he DID see lee use his taijutsu, if you didn´t notice, they FOUGHT IN PART 1, BEFORE CHUUNIN EXAMS. + if he would be so intelligent, than he wouldn´t want to DESTROY KONOHA, now would he? and because of CM he survived against deidara if you didn´t notice

he never saw Lee in the fight against Gaara where he used his true speed and taijutsu. well he had the curse mark so it was part of his powers so your argument doesn't make sense, i could say the same thing about naruto and the kyuubi

lol thats the complete opposite...

the kyuubi was an obstacle for naruto to train for sage mode...
ma and pa couldnt even emerge with him because of the nine tails

btw naruto has incredible chakra even without the kyuubi (hes an uzumaki)

naruto would not have sage mode without kyuubi. he would have died a long time ago. uzumaki = 2nd rate senju

 

[Talk No Jutsu]

Sasuke worked to learn fire style jutsu, 2 tomoe, 3 tomoe, achieve partial curse mark transformations, chidori, chidori nagashi, chidori senbon, chidori stream, kenjutsu, summoning jutsu, kirin, his shunshin no jutsu to master Amaterasu, to master susano'o ... etc ...

2 tomeo and 3 tomoe Sharingan is GRANTED ...

... You can't say Curse mark because that is also GRANTED ...

Shunshin no Jutsu - Everyone know ... its only D-RANK ... ..

and you can't say Amaterasu or Susanoo because he didn't MASTER them and they are GRANTED :flaw:

 

[Talk No Jutsu]

he never saw Lee in the fight against Gaara where he used his true speed and taijutsu. well he had the curse mark so it was part of his powers so your argument doesn't make sense, i could say the same thing about naruto and the kyuubi



naruto would not have sage mode without kyuubi. he would have died a long time ago. uzumaki = 2nd rate senju

GOD!! ... how many times do we have to say ... Kyuubi was trying to stop the training ... and no ... Naruto naturally has a lot of Chakra is well ... Kakashi mentioned it when they were doing tree climbing practice and rasenshuriken practice is well ... and he wouldn't have died a long time a go because he is the main character ... and that applies to sasuke is well ... without his sharingan ... Raikage would've Bitchslapped him back to China ... so would've Haku, Deidara, Orichimaru, and Itachi ... and he wouldn't be strong without sharingan because Orichimaru wouldn't have trained him ... Orichimaru only trained him because of his Sharingan ... :flaw:...

P.S. sorry for double post

 

[Shisui Namikaze]

Well in that case Itachi's best friend wasn't Shisui. Itachi said that last time he saw Shisui, Danzo have already taken one eye. Then Itachi said that Shisui died silently after he met him. And also, how the **** Tobi could know that Itachi gave Sasuke his abilities? I'm wondering what are Sasuke's own MS abilities, why we haven't seen them? Sasuke has the same MS abilities as Itachi 'cause they're brothers.

He knew because sasuke used Amaterasu on him and he said itachi must have implanted that into your eyes to protect you from me. And if you go back and watch when itachi put his too fingers on sasuke's forehead that is when he gave him Amaterasu. Once again GAVE him Amaterasu.

 

[wonderwho]

no we´re not wrong

seriously, yes he did train hard for chidori and it´s variations, but he obtained MS FOR "FREE" AND NOW HE WILL GET EMS FOR "FREE" TOO

yup

 

[captainEO]

GOD!! ... how many times do we have to say ... Kyuubi was trying to stop the training ... and no ... Naruto naturally has a lot of Chakra is well ... Kakashi mentioned it when they were doing tree climbing practice and rasenshuriken practice is well ... and he wouldn't have died a long time a go because he is the main character ... and that applies to sasuke is well ... without his sharingan ... Raikage would've Bitchslapped him back to China ... so would've Haku, Deidara, Orichimaru, and Itachi ... and he wouldn't be strong without sharingan because Orichimaru wouldn't have trained him ... Orichimaru only trained him because of his Sharingan ... :flaw:...

P.S. sorry for double post

I know kyuubi was trying to stop the training and prevented ma and pa from fusing. But the point still remains that without the specific seal used to place the 9 tails in Naruto, his chakra would not be as powerful or large because small amounts of kyuubi's chakra would not have continually mixed with Naruto's.

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And Fukasaku said that without extreme chakra reserves one cannot learn sage mode/senjutsu.

Also are you saying Uzumaki chakra > Uchiha chakra (the most feared + respected clan in the manga). Naruto's natural, unmixed chakra can't be greater than an Uchiha's

 

[captainEO]

He knew because sasuke used Amaterasu on him and he said itachi must have implanted that into your eyes to protect you from me. And if you go back and watch when itachi put his too fingers on sasuke's forehead that is when he gave him Amaterasu. Once again GAVE him Amaterasu.

That was only transcription seal Amaterasu

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A once off thing.
He first awoke his mangekyou on the cliff (after the truth about Itachi was revealed)
Sasuke awoke Susano'o, Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi on his own

 

[Talk No Jutsu]

I know kyuubi was trying to stop the training and prevented ma and pa from fusing. But the point still remains that without the specific seal used to place the 9 tails in Naruto, his chakra would not be as powerful or large because small amounts of kyuubi's chakra would not have continually mixed with Naruto's.

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And Fukasaku said that without extreme chakra reserves one cannot learn sage mode/senjutsu.

Also are you saying Uzumaki chakra > Uchiha chakra (the most feared + respected clan in the manga). Naruto's natural, unmixed chakra can't be greater than an Uchiha's

Uchiha's chakra are more SENISTER not BETTER or LARGER ...

in Term of Sizes .... Yes Uzumaki have bigger Chakra reserves ... thats is why all 3 Jinchuuriki of Kyuubi were Uzumakis ....
and also Jiraiya didn't have kyuubi inside of him yet he learned Sage mode ...

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Read that ... Uzumaki have also large STAMINA reserves ... and in Naruto case ...

STAMINA = CHAKRA ... :flaw: