Sasuke did NOT have his powers given to him

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People like to say that Sasuke has never worked for any of his powers and they were all handed to him.

You're wrong:flaw:

I had to get this off my chest, it really does annoy me

also i'm actually too lazy to write a conclusive argument/post so...
I'll just say you're wrong.
 

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no we´re not wrong

seriously, yes he did train hard for chidori and it´s variations, but he obtained MS FOR "FREE" AND NOW HE WILL GET EMS FOR "FREE" TOO
 

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geez dont get me started... sasuke has worked for jack crap all of his powers have been handed to him on a silver platter the only thinng hes actualy worked for is chidori and partialy his 1 tomoe sharingan the rest just came to him on a silver bowl
 

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he has been given things his whole life curse mark by micheal jackson, MS by itach and EMS transplanted into him by madara with itachis eyes so without stuff given to him he would be a 3 tomoe sharringan loser compare him with naruto who trained for his sage mode every tech and has such discipline he can take the 9 tails chakra whenever he wants you can see the differences although i will accept the arguement that naruto had his 9 tails given to him which im sure he didnt want unlike sasuke but yeah if you took the 2 main characters discarding everything they have ever been given it would be a 3tomoe sasuke with lightening fire techs etc v sage naruto so yeah without his handouts he would suck sorry.
 

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Well people tries to find excuses.
 

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no we´re not wrong

seriously, yes he did train hard for chidori and it´s variations, but he obtained MS FOR "FREE" AND NOW HE WILL GET EMS FOR "FREE" TOO

And this is a FACT ^
 

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he has been given things his whole life curse mark by micheal jackson, MS by itach and EMS transplanted into him by madara with itachis eyes so without stuff given to him he would be a 3 tomoe sharringan loser compare him with naruto who trained for his sage mode every tech and has such discipline he can take the 9 tails chakra whenever he wants you can see the differences although i will accept the arguement that naruto had his 9 tails given to him which im sure he didnt want unlike sasuke but yeah if you took the 2 main characters discarding everything they have ever been given it would be a 3tomoe sasuke with lightening fire techs etc v sage naruto so yeah without his handouts he would suck sorry.

Naruto always relys on Kyuubi and the Kyuubi is given to him.
 

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no we´re not wrong

seriously, yes he did train hard for chidori and it´s variations, but he obtained MS FOR "FREE" AND NOW HE WILL GET EMS FOR "FREE" TOO

it isn't for "free" he had to lose someone close to him and that's surely isn't "free". to feel heart wrenching pain sucks, no one would want that.

following that it's like saying itachi, madara, shisui all the other uchiha got their MS for free

and getting the MS was the culmination of all his hard work, remember Itachi always pushed him "you're not strong enough", "get strong". he worked hard to get his 3 tomoe and even harder to reach a point where he could kill Itachi.

EMS also isn't free since someone close to you has to die (have their eyes removeed). and besides EMS is the peak of his sharingan. it's like kyuubi/chakra mode is the peak of Naruto's kyuubi power. so that means Naruto got his kyuubi mode for free then
 

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I guess but Sasuke has natural talent. Hard work beats talent, that's what Rock Lee showed Sasuke during their fight before the Chuuin exams.
 

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he has been given things his whole life curse mark by micheal jackson, MS by itach and EMS transplanted into him by madara with itachis eyes so without stuff given to him he would be a 3 tomoe sharringan loser compare him with naruto who trained for his sage mode every tech and has such discipline he can take the 9 tails chakra whenever he wants you can see the differences although i will accept the arguement that naruto had his 9 tails given to him which im sure he didnt want unlike sasuke but yeah if you took the 2 main characters discarding everything they have ever been given it would be a 3tomoe sasuke with lightening fire techs etc v sage naruto so yeah without his handouts he would suck sorry.

Hahahaha.
 

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he has been given things his whole life curse mark by micheal jackson, MS by itach and EMS transplanted into him by madara with itachis eyes so without stuff given to him he would be a 3 tomoe sharringan loser compare him with naruto who trained for his sage mode every tech and has such discipline he can take the 9 tails chakra whenever he wants you can see the differences although i will accept the arguement that naruto had his 9 tails given to him which im sure he didnt want unlike sasuke but yeah if you took the 2 main characters discarding everything they have ever been given it would be a 3tomoe sasuke with lightening fire techs etc v sage naruto so yeah without his handouts he would suck sorry.

curse mark wasn't free. he nearly died when Orochimaru bit him, in fact he had to die for it to advance to the second level. also curse mark is a major weakness. Anko suffered for the longest time because she had it.

the curse mark was made to torture people, it corroded their minds, weakened them and filled them with dark thoughts. it was meant to kill the person through suffering. why do you think Sasuke was weak during the chuunin exams


why do you think they call it a curse? it poisons you and destroys your body
 
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he has been given things his whole life curse mark by micheal jackson, MS by itach and EMS transplanted into him by madara with itachis eyes so without stuff given to him he would be a 3 tomoe sharringan loser compare him with naruto who trained for his sage mode every tech and has such discipline he can take the 9 tails chakra whenever he wants you can see the differences although i will accept the arguement that naruto had his 9 tails given to him which im sure he didnt want unlike sasuke but yeah if you took the 2 main characters discarding everything they have ever been given it would be a 3tomoe sasuke with lightening fire techs etc v sage naruto so yeah without his handouts he would suck sorry.

the only reason Naruto was able to use sage mode was because the kyuubi's chakra mixed with his own granting him with more "natural" chakra hence why he could train to become a sage
 

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People like to say that Sasuke has never worked for any of his powers and they were all handed to him.

You're wrong:flaw:

I had to get this off my chest, it really does annoy me

also i'm actually too lazy to write a conclusive argument/post so...
I'll just say you're wrong.

Lets see ...

In part 1:- Lee's taijutsu was given to him by his Sharingan ...

in Part 2:- MS was given to him ...
EMS was given to him ... (Never had to work for MS & EMS) ...

Amaterasu & Susanoo & Genjutsu were all packaged in the Eyes so they were given to him ...

:flaw:


and some more which I can't be bothered to write down
 

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the only reason Naruto was able to use sage mode was because the kyuubi's chakra mixed with his own granting him with more "natural" chakra hence why he could train to become a sage

Naruto has alot of chakra even without the kyuubi, If anything the kyuubi weakens his sage mode because he cannot fuse with Ma and Pa thus giving him limited Sage chakra unlike Jman

And yes sasuke did get his Ms for "free", unlike itachi who had to kill his best friend to unlock it and using his own Ms jutsu's

Even madara said itachi "transferred ALL his eye techniques onto you"

 

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Naruto has alot of chakra even without the kyuubi, If anything the kyuubi weakens his sage mode because he cannot fuse with Ma and Pa thus giving him limited Sage chakra unlike Jman

And yes sasuke did get his Ms for "free", unlike itachi who had to kill his best friend to unlock it and using his own Ms jutsu's

Even madara said itachi "transferred ALL his eye techniques onto you"


Well in that case Itachi's best friend wasn't Shisui. Itachi said that last time he saw Shisui, Danzo have already taken one eye. Then Itachi said that Shisui died silently after he met him. And also, how the **** Tobi could know that Itachi gave Sasuke his abilities? I'm wondering what are Sasuke's own MS abilities, why we haven't seen them? Sasuke has the same MS abilities as Itachi 'cause they're brothers.
 

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what about cursed seal?
mangekyo sharingan?
eternal mangekyo sharingan?

i mean EMS is (one of?) the final form of the sharingan also being the strongest form, what did sasuke do to get it? he took itachis eyes and after that he just rested a very long time even now hes still recovering in the manga... so he got on par with narutos kyuubi mode just by stealing eyes and resting for 70 chapters while naruto had to defeat the kyuubi to get his powers??

yes he didnt always get his powers, he worked hard on raiton element jutsus but thats pretty much it...
 

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the only reason Naruto was able to use sage mode was because the kyuubi's chakra mixed with his own granting him with more "natural" chakra hence why he could train to become a sage

no. i don't know where did you get this but totally wrong. because of the kyuubi he can't merge with Ma and Pa, but the kyuubi's chakra doesn't have any business with sage mode.

about Sasuke, yes he get his powers for "free". Susanoo, Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi (or how do you spell it) all given to him by Itachi he didn't even trained for it. MS also awakened by Itachi. EMS given to him by Madara (Itachi's eyes...). I don't know how he awakened his 1 tomoe sharingan, but the 2 tomoe awakened against Haku, the 3 tomoe against Naruto, both of them in battle not by actual training, it's just awakened out of nowhere. curse mark also given to him by Orochimaru, the only thing he had to do is to remain alive. the only thing he had to train is his chidori and it's variets.

some of you are saying for all of these he had to pay. but what? and train. but how? he didn't payed for the curse mark, he only wanted to be alive to kill Itachi. it's not payment, not training, it's nothing. everything Itachi gave him was also free. a gift for his little brother. Itachi was sick and almost dead, but if he decide not to fight with Sasuke he would never get MS and it's power at all. but they fought and Itachi died for Sasuke's sake and gave him his powers. it was a hard training? no. it was a payment? not really. Itachi would be dead either way if they fought or not. it was a gift. yes.

to finish my post, I'm not hating Sasuke however i don't like him at all. almost everything was given to him.
 

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Lets see ...

In part 1:- Lee's taijutsu was given to him by his Sharingan ...

in Part 2:- MS was given to him ...
EMS was given to him ... (Never had to work for MS & EMS) ...

Amaterasu & Susanoo & Genjutsu were all packaged in the Eyes so they were given to him ...

:flaw:


and some more which I can't be bothered to write down

he never even saw Lee use his taijutsu (improved technique against Gaara) he had to imagine Lee fighting. even then as a feat it was impressive gaining praise from both the copy ninja and guy sensei. Also the difficulty of the task itself is lost on us because

1 - Sasuke is cool, you know what cool means?:cool: he doesn't explicitly show how difficult something is for him because he's... cool.

2- Sasuke is a genius, and I present to you relative difficulty. Sasuke's makes things seem easy because he's smart. Like Einstein may make a maths problem seem easy because he solves it in no time. when in actuality that problem is freakishly difficult and it would take a normal person ages to solve that very same problem

here's a knife, here's a katana, and don't forget your nunchucks,
see ya later
it's not like if I gave you these things you'd be able to engage in knife combat with an A class Russian spy. you also wouldn't be able to parry a kenjutsu master's strike, neither would your use of nunchucks be able match an experienced japanese sensei's
 
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