kisame vs gai (read first)

[Jae Dong180]

Um first off Sakura is not weaker than Guy. She and Tsunade are pretty much the strongest characters in the show. Do you know why? Because of their perfect chakra control that allows them to release built up chakra at the point of impact with their fists. So they are augmenting their strength beyond belief. Unless you think Guy can bring down an entire building with one punch. (Go watch the Sannin fight in Part 1 if you don't know what I am talking about)

Easy to break sasori's shell? Sakura was being controlled by a pupper master who was familiar with Sasori (she was his grandmother) and taught him everything he knew. Plus she still got hit, it is just that they were both medics and had an antidote to his poison. And she only fought against a few puppets, Chiyo controlled 10 puppets to fight off most of them. And then Chiyo controlled 2 more puppets (Sasori's parents)

Amen Brah!!

 

[deidara senpai]

NO but guy would be stronger underwater due to his gates, and you say you dont see it repelling all that water in the dome ?

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Look how much water this repelled noob.
but kisame is faster than guy underwater, but on land kisame loses with speed.

overall guy beats kisame. 7th gate ftw

and tell me where the water dome is he is simply on water

you get riled up fast already calling me a noob for one comment?

and its showing an overflow of chakra which in the dome the water is made out of chakra which can prevent the overflow and its stronger than the water jutsu that kisame first used in the first battle where it doesnt take chakra and only at 30%

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

and tell me where the water dome is he is simply on water

you get riled up fast already calling me a noob for one comment?

and its showing an overflow of chakra which in the dome the water is made out of chakra which can prevent the overflow

Did this guy continue to read that chapter? At first it shot water everywhere but then the water it evaporated was limited to right around his body. Plus like @deidara senpai said this was a lake not a water dome. Plus this is a 30% chakra version of kisame who didn't have his speed or the real version of Samehada.

 

[Taiketsu Yagami]

For the people who say samehada is useless is bull ****! Samehada can not only absorb chakra attacks but one swipe can suck a humans chakra. Gates is the releasing of barriers that keeps chakra cirxulation stable and releases it to the fullest. One swipe of Samehada sucks all that chakra, eventually canceling gates. Plus Kisame can fuse with it and pwn gai inside that water dome and suck his chakra. Then pwn with a thousand feeding sharks O_O

 

[deidara senpai]

Did this guy continue to read that chapter? At first it shot water everywhere but then the water it evaporated was limited to right around his body. Plus like @deidara senpai said this was a lake not a water dome. Plus this is a 30% chakra version of kisame who didn't have his speed or the real version of Samehada.

i forgot about that than it turned normal after the rapid change right

and Taiketsu Namikaze i think you mean Pwn gai for the last line not Pwn kisame

 

[Taiketsu Yagami]

i forgot about that than it turned normal after the rapid change right

and Taiketsu Namikaze i think you mean Pwn gai for the last line not Pwn kisame

Right, my bad xd

 

[deidara senpai]

Right, my bad xd

its all good

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

i forgot about that than it turned normal after the rapid change right

and Taiketsu Namikaze i think you mean Pwn gai for the last line not Pwn kisame

Yeah, did you read my edited post on page 1?

 

[arv993]

im sorry but kisame loses, if kisame was able to use the water sphere then he would win, but when guy goes 6th gate + the green sweat aura repels stuff around him + water.
Guy>Kisame

exactly

 

[deidara senpai]

Yeah, did you read my edited post on page 1?

now i did and couldnt agree more the 8 gates are overrated and with the speed he aint narutos kyubi speed level or A's speed or even minatos space time ninjutsu (im talking about FTG) gais mainly changes only from the gates push yourself to hard to get it when your body literally cant do it

and if more people want to argue about this ill do it in the morning im tired right now

 

[arv993]

Um to those who said that Guy doesn't use chakra, I suggest you guys reread the manga. Chakra is used to do everything, taijutsu is included in that, if Guy gets touched by Samehada even once then he is done for. He can still lose chakra and die of chakra exhaustion just like anyone else, and maybe Kisame can't suck up afternoon tiger but he could just dodge, he had plenty of time he was just confident that his move would suck up Guy's attack so he didn't worry about it.

And the Gates apparently doesn't stop the water prison as Guy was trapped in it after he caught Kisame. At which point Kisame could have killed him had he so chosen. Funny how everyone forgets that part, how Guy would have lost had Kishi not decided to make Kisame kill himself. Kisame had tons of chakra left and could still summon sharks and break out of mokuton.

water dome can be gotten out of becus after 6 gates guy repels water around him and guy can jump out of it and get to land where he is a lot faster than kisame and he isn't gonna let him use the tech over an over again, guy isn't gonna be touched by samehada that easily and if guy lands afternoon tiger or morning peacock he would seriously injure him and can even kill him because as long as guy plays it safe and doesn't hit samehada he can survive and kisame won't be healed.

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

water dome can be gotten out of becus after 6 gates guy repels water around him and guy can get to land where he is a lot faster than kisame, guy isn't gonna be touched by samehada that easily and if guy lands afternoon tiger or morning peacock he would seriously injure him and can even kill him because as long as guy plays it safe and doesn't hit samehada he can survive and finish off kisame.

But how long would that take? Would he have the time to play it safe? And what would Kisame be doing? Attacking back, pushing Guy to his limits.

 

[arv993]

But how long would that take? Would he have the time to play it safe? And what would Kisame be doing? Attacking back, pushing Guy to his limits.

guy just has to rely on his long range attacks and kisame is not a fast ninja and can most likely be hit by his attacks and he can't heal making him weaker and even easier to attack and kill. guy can last a decent time to pull it off but kisame can win it too but guy seems to be a good counter for him. yes he can attack back but is guy is considerably faster and can land more hits easier. kisame's main advantages like water dome and his samehada are taken away from him so he has lesser chance of winning but can stil; win by trying to outlast guy and get him when he is weak, but guy would try to push himself to win it and he likely can.

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

guy just has to rely on his long range attacks and kisame is not a fast ninja and can most likely be hit by his attacks and he can't heal making him weaker and even easier to attack and kill. guy can last a decent time to pull it off but kisame can win it too but guy seems to be a good counter for him. yes he can attack back but is guy is considerably faster and can land more hits easier.

I disagree with that part. Go reread Kisame's flashback you will see how fast he is, it is just that his style doesn't really require him to be on the offensive much.

 

[arv993]

I disagree with that part. Go reread Kisame's flashback you will see how fast he is, it is just that his style doesn't really require him to be on the offensive much.

yea that might be true but not as fast as guy but i think it is a close fight kisame has a good chance to win by outlasting gai. I think it is close but if guy has info he would try to finish him off and since kisame loses his main advantages would lose to more likely than not cos his water styles would not be as effective and guy can use his attacks and superior speed to win. But if they were fighting in a lake like they were b4 kisame probably got that becus his water style can slow down many of guys attacks and eventually outlast him but in land i think it is guy with info.

 

[deidara senpai]

water dome can be gotten out of becus after 6 gates guy repels water around him and guy can jump out of it and get to land where he is a lot faster than kisame and he isn't gonna let him use the tech over an over again, guy isn't gonna be touched by samehada that easily and if guy lands afternoon tiger or morning peacock he would seriously injure him and can even kill him because as long as guy plays it safe and doesn't hit samehada he can survive and kisame won't be healed.

it changes for the moment from the rapid change after that its neatral again

 

[arv993]

it changes for the moment from the rapid change after that its neatral again

wait what are you talking about.

 

[Klubargutan]

agreed



so then killer bee is also weaker than gai

that was with water jutsu with it filling up like or ocean this is a dome prison i dont see gai breaking out of that with the aura plus gai may be fast but kisame is now under water in his turf

sorry but kisame>Gai

nope, gai>kisame

 

[Exaar]

Samehada seems to only be able to absorb chakra on contact if the target has a chakra cloak or something like A's lightning armor

"However, it seems to be unable to automatically absorb ambient chakra, in all instances where it's absorbed chakra are when his opponent had a visible aura around them"
From wiki

Just wanted to point that out

 

[deidara senpai]

wait what are you talking about.

when you said when gai goes into the 6th gate he can dispose of the water for like a minute it can because its from gais power change byt once then it will stop after the rapid change gai will still be in the gate but it wont have water disposing everywhere

nope, gai>kisame

explain?

Samehada seems to only be able to absorb chakra on contact if the target has a chakra cloak or something like A's lightning armor

"However, it seems to be unable to automatically absorb ambient chakra, in all instances where it's absorbed chakra are when his opponent had a visible aura around them"
From wiki

Just wanted to point that out

so suigetsu has a cloak around him than?