Kisame vs Jiraiya 4real

[vergil18]

Hi and sorry for the wait guy's, but now that I'm back, for real, state your winner with specific reasons, and considering a real battle between them, and no opinions like "j-man pwns!!" are valid.

State your reasons, and prove your arguments for a better understanding for the viewers, of the shinobi's powers and most importantly for RESPECT OF CHARACTER!!!

consider their final fight, with them on their maximum power (BOTH OF THEM) in the anime/manga

kISAME - enormous amount of chakra, great physical strenght, suiton specialyst, chakra sucking-shark summons, "lake" creator, samehada(chakra absorbption and fusion = enhanced sensoring skill, and chakra absorption)....

Jiraiya - sage mode, high chakra supply, toad summoning, rasengan, fire and earth release, lion mane tecs...

please DONT SPAM AND JUSTIFIE REASONS!

 

[MasqueradeNX]

Make a poll

Kisame i think

 

[deidara senpai]

it would be reeeeeeeally close but the winner will be jiraiya i dont feel like explaining right now later maybe but now no

 

[vergil18]

Make a poll

Kisame i think

care to explain why? power? intelligence? skill?

 

[Lord Snow]

jman would win this one

 

[vergil18]

it would be reeeeeeeally close but the winner will be jiraiya i dont feel like explaining right now later maybe but now no

ok, fair enough as long as you explain latter ok?
gotta maintain ideas rolling...

 

[deidara senpai]

ok, fair enough as long as you explain latter ok?
gotta maintain ideas rolling...

dont worry i will just im tired now give me a half hour tops

 

[kadowade]

Kisame because Kisame is able to keep up with guys speed. Gai had to do like 4 gates to destroy the FAKE kisame that only had 30% of kisames real power. His fake body was owning Neji, Lee and tenten and guy until guy did gates, And Kisame dosent get tired.........

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So he would certainly outlast Jiraiya since jiraiya has no 1 hit ko technique. Although sage mode jiraiya would be a problem, But Kisame wouldnt give jiraya ALL THAT TIME to activate it, and theres no sense in running from Kisame cuz he has samehada that can trace his chakra and find him, so i think kisame would win
And kisames no Dumbass either

 

[vergil18]

jman would win this one

no need to explain, why justify? C'mon just a little more than a declaration of the winner please:shrug:

 

[vergil18]

dont worry i will just im tired now give me a half hour tops

deal.. hope you enjoy the replies

Kisame because Kisame is able to keep up with guys speed. Gai had to do like 4 gates to destroy the FAKE kisame that only had 30% of kisames real power. His fake body was owning Neji, Lee and tenten and guy until guy did gates, And Kisame dosent get tired.........

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So he would certainly outlast Jiraiya since jiraiya has no 1 hit ko technique. Although sage mode jiraiya would be a problem, But Kisame wouldnt give jiraya ALL THAT TIME to activate it, and theres no sense in running from Kisame cuz he has samehada that can trace his chakra and find him, so i think kisame would win
And kisames no Dumbass either

agreed.. nice explanation... the one-hit KO is a big deal for j-man, plus the fact that imperfect sage mode requires time to activate.

 

[Phantoz Uchiha]

jiraiya

 

[vergil18]

jiraiya

dont spam and justifie reasons!

 

[Migualon J.J.]

that depends, would samehada turn to stone statue if it would absorb natural energy? if not than Kisame 100%, IF YES, than it would be very harder, BUT i would still go with Kisame, cause of his huge water prison (thing he used against kirabi)

 

[kadowade]

jiraiya

Actually Itachi saved jiraiyas life,

 

[deidara senpai]

alright back earlier than i thought anyway

like i said j man wins heres why

kisame admited that hes stronger lolol jk

btw im saying j man in this cause its shorter than jiraiya

but on a serious note j man has sage mode and has ma and pa to do it for him he can summon a toad like gamekan or gamabunta to distract however his only problem from that is the water bubble but j man can use the toad stomache or swamp of the underground to dispose/protect him from the water bubble however kisame wont just sit their he might use some water attacks if hes in the toad stomache or go under ground with his earth style to get under and attack j man however j man could summon the toads (if not already summoned and while kisame is dealing with them he could be hiding and using the time to call in ma and pa for sage mode while than assuming he goes into it he will than fight in sm and samehada does suck up chakra but however not as fast as preta path so if j man does get close to samehada ma and pa are their to help him out if on shoulder and if worse comes to worse j man can use the toad genjutsu thing he used against pain and the oil bath which i know kisame cant counter if it can barely absorb fire ball (itachi used against bee)

as close it may seem i cant see kisame winning but it is close

 

[vinsence]

Kisame can surely impress and I would say I'm not sure but even with his partner by his side he had little faith that they would live if they fought Jman together. He knows his limits better then us I would say so I have to give it to the Jman.

 

[vergil18]

that depends, would samehada turn to stone statue if it would absorb natural energy? if not than Kisame 100%, IF YES, than it would be very harder, BUT i would still go with Kisame, cause of his huge water prison (thing he used against kirabi)

good point about the natural energy absorption, but would kisame give enough time to allow sage mode?

Actually Itachi saved jiraiyas life,

why and how?

 

[vergil18]

alright back earlier than i thought anyway

like i said j man wins heres why

kisame admited that hes stronger lolol jk

btw im saying j man in this cause its shorter than jiraiya

but on a serious note j man has sage mode and has ma and pa to do it for him he can summon a toad like gamekan or gamabunta to distract however his only problem from that is the water bubble but j man can use the toad stomache or swamp of the underground to dispose/protect him from the water bubble however kisame wont just sit their he might use some water attacks if hes in the toad stomache or go under ground with his earth style to get under and attack j man however j man could summon the toads (if not already summoned and while kisame is dealing with them he could be hiding and using the time to call in ma and pa for sage mode while than assuming he goes into it he will than fight in sm and samehada does suck up chakra but however not as fast as preta path so if j man does get close to samehada ma and pa are their to help him out if on shoulder and if worse comes to worse j man can use the toad genjutsu thing he used against pain and the oil bath which i know kisame cant counter if it can barely absorb fire ball (itachi used against bee)

as close it may seem i cant see kisame winning but it is close

what about kisame 1000 shark suiton tech? and his ultimate suiton atack that is already powerfull and absorbs chakra (like Sage Rasengan), and the frog genjutso would need much, much time

Kisame can surely impress and I would say I'm not sure but even with his partner by his side he had little faith that they would live if they fought Jman together. He knows his limits better then us I would say so I have to give it to the Jman.

well we can't always follow the manga, that's my opinion... there's always new things and facts uncovering

 

[deidara senpai]

what about kisame 1000 shark suiton tech? and his ultimate suiton atack that is already powerfull and absorbs chakra (like Sage Rasengan), and the frog genjutso would need much, much time



well we can't always follow the manga, that's my opinion... there's always new things and facts uncovering

toad oil bath can cool down 1000 sharks if j man has the higher ground

for the big bullet it might absorb the technique but if its earth which is waters weakness weakness idt it will grow bigger

and for the genjutsu the frogs could distract kisame for a while or j man himself if kisame doesnt figure out what those 2 are doing

 

[Pervyy]

I was asked to post my opinion on this thread, otherwise i would have ignored it.

Well here it is. We need to look at both abilities:

Jiraiya: sage mode, toads, fire, earth, fuuin, nin

Kisame: Samehada, sharks, water mainly

Overall i think jiraiya would win. The main reason for this is, as soon as he uses a sage jutsu and kisame tries to absorb it, samehada would turn to stone as anyone who uses natural energy does if they can't control it. Also jiraiya has more skill that jutsu power IMO.

I would go into details but there is no point.