Itachi's Strength

[arv993]

Naruto wiki often has their facts wrong, that is why we must go off of the databook and manga for facts and use Naruto wiki only for referencing.

And if Tobi is Madara why must he have had kamui back then? If he lost his EMS and got another sharingan then he would have that sharingan's abilities.

And I think Tsukuyomi is different because it is one of the strongest genjutsus ever but Itachi only uses it for a short period of time so he could never control the nine-tails with it, other genjutsu probably but not Tsukuyomi.

yea that is true sometimes naruto wiki is wrong and make assumptions. yea that is possible that tobi got a new set of eyes but we can't be sure he even lost his original eyes in the first place but we hav no info so we can't say for sure. Yea now that i think about it might work cos he is able to control its time and space in it so its possible, but he did beat madara so might have a genjutsu defense. You made some good points and i agree with you on the most part but there are too many unknown factors that can decide such factors, we hav to wait for a flashback or something. But tsukiyomi of itachi's is amazing and unique so it is definitely a good possibility that he has a chance in beating the hokages, but we need to kno evrything which sucks and i wish kishi would give some insight into their skills.

 

[Nidaimerocks]

Re: Itachi is d strongest ninja ever(not includin So6p)

karin was just hit for a second and sasuke saved her but it would burn the paths becos they would have a longer tie where they are burning and preta can be stopped by taijutsu and genjutsu can work

What about deva? Dude stop overrating Itachi. Deva stands at the back of the Pein Rikudou formation with Naraka at the very back while Preta is at the front. If Itachi uses amaterasu, Preta should absorb it. IF the realms at the front of the formation are hit, preta can then use shira tensei to blow amaterasu away since he won't be touched given his position. He can use bansho tennin to pull the affected realms to Naraka and have him heal them

it has not been stated that only sound genjutsu to work preta

I never said only sounds genjutsu works. :flaw: I said tsukuyomi is not an AOE genjutsu like sound genjutsu, meaning it can't be cast on multiple people. Itachi has no AOE genjutsu. So, if he uses genjutsu, it would be on ONE path

is not gonna suck it up itachi isn't a dumbass preta is slow and can be hit with taijutsu or immobilized by genjutsu(which you hav no proof that doesn't work).

Listen, you are starting to bore me now. I did not say genjutsu does not work on Preta. I said sharingan genjutsu can be broken by attacking Itachi or inserting chakra into the path. You want proof?

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Pain's paths dodged the fastest sage jutsu what is that if you are talking about naruto's rasen-shuriken that is slow as hell.

I am not even talking about FRS!!! :flaw::flaw: I am talking about senpou: kebari senbon

you keep overrating preta he was slow and can't just go up to itachi and suck up all his chakra, itachi with knowledge would take him out or immobilize him.

Jiraiya is FASTER than Itachi in sage mode and yet Preta attacked his chou oodoma rasengan and sucked it dry. Preta does not have to go to Itachi either. If Itachi uses susano'o sword as you indicate, preta would simply suck it dry of chakra

amaterasu is a fast jutsu the paths are not fast at all especially the summoning girl who was even about to be hit by rasen-shuriken until she was pulled away. they have no speed feats amaterasu is a fast and accurate jutsu and gaara's sand has gotten much faster over the years his dad even mentions that and was surprised.

The paths have better feats than amaterasu. Sasuke outran amaterasu. you want proof?

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You say the paths have no speed feats yet they can react to Jiraiya's moves like they were a

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if preta is done and itachi is fast and all he has to do is see others and use amaterasu and activate susano for strong attacks like shinra tensei and the 5 sec time limit is a weak-spot that itachi can use and seal even deva with the sword which is fast.

You know how long that sword takes to form? Should I show you since you don't seem to know?

1. Susano'o starts

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2. Develops to

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3. Then it is fully

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. However, it does not have the sword
5. Then susano'o has to throw sake from the gourd to form the

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During all this time, Itachi can't seal shit but Pein can attack him. That five second recharge time, well passed before susano'o can have the sword

itachi who is healthy like he was in part 1 can win he has enough stamina to pull it off, in his battle against sasuke where he was sick he was able to use amaterasu a lot, use regular ninjutsu, genjutsu on sasuke even tsukiyomi and then still use susano, if he was healthy he can do better and still have enough stamina to pull out a win.

Whoever said his stamina decreased because of his sickness? Can you find manga proof for that? Kimmimaro had 4.5 stamina stat and he wa sicker than Itachi.

the pains are slow about naruto's speed(b4 kyubi mode) and itachi superior in that perspective

Itachi is not as fast as you pretend bro. Can you show ONE scan of Itachi's SPEED FEAT not hand seals but body movement. Can you show ONE. ITachi has never speedblitzed anyone. If you think I am hating show me ONE scan

and can win if he had prior info, but still a battle that is extremely hard and can go either way more likely itachi. you think that itachi just loses simply and downplays everything like amaterasu, susano and his intelliegnce which he would have and use it to kno who is dangerous like preta and take him out.

Without previous info, Itachi would last 5 seconds. Bansho tennin into Preta's hands and Itachi has to use susano'o. The minute he does Preta sucks it dry of chakra and Itachi is a goner. He may get lucky if he uses genjutsu in that moment. But his genjutsu won't help him much because it will affect ONE path. The other 5 will see that he used genjutsu and still attack him.

 

[arv993]

Re: Itachi is d strongest ninja ever(not includin So6p)

What about deva? Dude stop overrating Itachi. Deva stands at the back of the Pein Rikudou formation with Naraka at the very back while Preta is at the front. If Itachi uses amaterasu, Preta should absorb it. IF the realms at the front of the formation are hit, preta can then use shira tensei to blow amaterasu away since he won't be touched given his position. He can use bansho tennin to pull the affected realms to Naraka and have him heal them




I never said only sounds genjutsu works. :flaw: I said tsukuyomi is not an AOE genjutsu like sound genjutsu, meaning it can't be cast on multiple people. Itachi has no AOE genjutsu. So, if he uses genjutsu, it would be on ONE path



Listen, you are starting to bore me now. I did not say genjutsu does not work on Preta. I said sharingan genjutsu can be broken by attacking Itachi or inserting chakra into the path. You want proof?

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I am not even talking about FRS!!! :flaw::flaw: I am talking about senpou: kebari senbon



Jiraiya is FASTER than Itachi in sage mode and yet Preta attacked his chou oodoma rasengan and sucked it dry. Preta does not have to go to Itachi either. If Itachi uses susano'o sword as you indicate, preta would simply suck it dry of chakra



The paths have better feats than amaterasu. Sasuke outran amaterasu. you want proof?

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You say the paths have no speed feats yet they can react to Jiraiya's moves like they were a

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and block point blank sage mode

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You know how long that sword takes to form? Should I show you since you don't seem to know?

1. Susano'o starts

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2. Develops to

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3. Then it is fully

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. However, it does not have the sword
5. Then susano'o has to throw sake from the gourd to form the

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During all this time, Itachi can't seal shit but Pein can attack him. That five second recharge time, well passed before susano'o can have the sword



Whoever said his stamina decreased because of his sickness? Can you find manga proof for that? Kimmimaro had 4.5 stamina stat and he wa sicker than Itachi.



Itachi is not as fast as you pretend bro. Can you show ONE scan of Itachi's SPEED FEAT not hand seals but body movement. Can you show ONE. ITachi has never speedblitzed anyone. If you think I am hating show me ONE scan



Without previous info, Itachi would last 5 seconds. Bansho tennin into Preta's hands and Itachi has to use susano'o. The minute he does Preta sucks it dry of chakra and Itachi is a goner. He may get lucky if he uses genjutsu in that moment. But his genjutsu won't help him much because it will affect ONE path. The other 5 will see that he used genjutsu and still attack him.

itachi would have last 5 seconds see it shows how much you hate and downplay itachi, he is a top class shinobi and you say he would be killed easily. i kno that it is a hard fight cos itachi has lregendary weapons and is one of the most inetlligent ppl in naruto and pain is mad powerful and his paths are insane.

If itachi has info then he would stop preta with genjutsu not really that hard. if deva uses shinra tensei on his paths they would be injured heavily and nakara path can revive not heal from what we have seen and it also takes time and all itachi has to do is use amaterasu on nakara cos all he has to do is see him which is simple. sasuke did not outrun it he gets hit and read the next page zetsu says that itachi stopped it so that he would not hurt sasuke's body and eyes, he wasn't even trying to kill him. sage mode jiraya is not that fastand preta was right next to deva so it doesn't even show that he is fast and plus he can get stopped by genjutsu if itachi has prior info.the patrhs are not fast and can be hit by amaterasu and deva pain would hurt them even more if he does techs on them. deva can hit him a few times with shinra tensei but is useless against susano which can be used instantly. and he can get sealed by sword of totsuka which is fast. kuchiyose girl is especially slow and was almost hit by rasenshuriken so amaterasu is no problem. Itachi with prior info and healthy as in part 1 would kno how to counter them well it is not impossible, itachi also has the speed advanatge, it is a hard fight but with info itachi can win but still a match that is can go both ways but with info and intelligence itachi can pull it off with high difficulty. you are so ignorant and underplay everything about him and say he won't last long you are clearly underestimating itachi's abilities and intelligence.

 

[kadowade]

what does this have to do with anything I said? Itachi is no doubt strong but you are one of the people who overrates him

No you overating pain, but you mentioning most of itachi flaws, which most of you said was incorrect and simulated in your head. You just like the other itachi haters, That MADLY overrates Pain

 

[Volcmike]

Hmmm! :1

 

[kadowade]

Naidainamerocks Hasen't mention ONE of pain's flaws.

 

[YIN YANG]

i clearly proved that susanno is affected by shinra tensa but yet you say im not kishi when i clearly told you the abilities that kishi had said but you say im not kishi do i have to be when it's that clear.
how much opinoins instead of facts do you use to defend Itachi
how can sage mode jairaiya not be faster than Itachi be serious.
the deva path is fast just wacth the deva path again against the kyubi
do you know what the rasen shuriken does It would be pointless for Itachi to even try to use his sharingan.It makes so many single strikes and it exxpands to hit the target.
idk where you're getting the rasengan shuriken is slow from it's actually naruto quikest attack.

 

[arv993]

Naidainamerocks Hasen't mention ONE of pain's flaws.

yes he also thinks itachi would lose really easily to pain even though itachi is considered to be really intelligent and one of the most powerful ninja in naruto.

 

[kadowade]

i clearly proved that susanno is affected by shinra tensa but yet you say im not kishi when i clearly told you the abilities that kishi had said but you say im not kishi do i have to be when it's that clear.
how much opinoins instead of facts do you use to defend Itachi
how can sage mode jairaiya not be faster than Itachi be serious.
the deva path is fast just wacth the deva path again against the kyubi
do you know what the rasen shuriken does It would be pointless for Itachi to even try to use his sharingan.It makes so many single strikes and it exxpands to hit the target.
idk where you're getting the rasengan shuriken is slow from it's actually naruto quikest attack.

yea but itachi is not that slow i mean like seriously

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lol skip to 7:30. I think he can dodge a Rasenshuriken

 

[arv993]

i clearly proved that susanno is affected by shinra tensa but yet you say im not kishi when i clearly told you the abilities that kishi had said but you say im not kishi do i have to be when it's that clear.
how much opinoins instead of facts do you use to defend Itachi
how can sage mode jairaiya not be faster than Itachi be serious.
the deva path is fast just wacth the deva path again against the kyubi
do you know what the rasen shuriken does It would be pointless for Itachi to even try to use his sharingan.It makes so many single strikes and it exxpands to hit the target.
idk where you're getting the rasengan shuriken is slow from it's actually naruto quikest attack.

you didn't prove anything, youy never used any evidence from the manga dude sorry but it clearly stated in the manga he can reflect any attack and i even gave you proof how naruto's clones blocked shinra tensei but yet you deny all that saying he can pump more energy and send susano flying that is just ridiculous. Rasenshuriken is not fast yes it makes so many small attacks that it killer tech, but in no way is fast a lot of characters can dodge. itachi is fast and do you forget and itachi is fast faster than sage naruto, he is mad quick look at him sasuke vs itachi and itachi vs killer bee he is really quick. deva is decently fast but not amazingly fast he is about sage naruto he can hit him sword of totsuka and amaterasu.

 

[kadowade]

yes he also thinks itachi would lose really easily to pain even though itachi is considered to be really intelligent and one of the most powerful ninja in naruto.

Lol he was sayin something about: Pain escaping Genjutsu because of Naraka, Or his other paths might get him out LMAO.
IT Has to be another(DIFFRENT) chakra source All the path are shared almost everything. He just saw the title" Itachi's strength'' Then said to himself "Im gonna go hate on itachi real quick"

 

[arv993]

Lol he was sayin something about: Pain escaping Genjutsu because of Naraka, Or his other paths might get him out LMAO.
IT Has to be another(DIFFRENT) chakra source All the path are shared almost everything. He just saw the title" Itachi's strength'' Then said to himself "Im gonna go hate on itachi real quick"

dude he says we overrate itachi but yet we admit that pain vs itachi is still a tough fight but he such a pain lover and itachi hater that he would say that he wouldn't last 5 minutes or something like that. And you are right it has to be a different chakra source, but all of them have one source nagato.

 

[Sarutobi Sasuke]

dude he says we overrate itachi but yet we admit that pain vs itachi is still a tough fight but he such a pain lover and itachi hater that he would say that he wouldn't last 5 minutes or something like that. And you are right it has to be a different chakra source, but all of them have one source nagato.

Itachi's been my favourite character since he first showed up in the manga, but this "omnipotent" portrayal of Itachi is becoming preposterously out of hand.

 

[kadowade]

dude he says we overrate itachi but yet we admit that pain vs itachi is still a tough fight but he such a pain lover and itachi hater that he would say that he wouldn't last 5 minutes or something like that. And you are right it has to be a different chakra source, but all of them have one source nagato.

Im not tryna overrate itachi, he definatly can be beat, I just hate when pain lovers come on here saying Shinra Tensei would automatically own everything. And stuff like "He jus gonna take his soul and stuff.
I mean like 4 real though, Itachi has Never been beaten, Not even by the Main Character yet. Naruto. (Except for the fake 1,naruto killed.
But itachi CAN get his asz whooped though, But people on here Make it seem like its a Piece of cake, for Pain to Kill Itachi.

 

[arv993]

Im not tryna overrate itachi, he definatly can be beat, I just hate when pain lovers come on here saying Shinra Tensei would automatically own everything. And stuff like "He jus gonna take his soul and stuff.
I mean like 4 real though, Itachi has Never been beaten, Not even by the Main Character yet. Naruto. (Except for the fake 1,naruto killed.
But itachi CAN get his asz whooped though, But people on here Make it seem like its a Piece of cake, for Pain to Kill Itachi.

yea exactly same here

 

[Volcmike]

Im not tryna overrate itachi, he definatly can be beat, I just hate when pain lovers come on here saying Shinra Tensei would automatically own everything. And stuff like "He jus gonna take his soul and stuff.
I mean like 4 real though, Itachi has Never been beaten, Not even by the Main Character yet. Naruto. (Except for the fake 1,naruto killed.
But itachi CAN get his asz whooped though, But people on here Make it seem like its a Piece of cake, for Pain to Kill Itachi.

YESS!!!

 

[arv993]

Itachi's been my favourite character since he first showed up in the manga, but this "omnipotent" portrayal of Itachi is becoming preposterously out of hand.

he is kage lvl but not invincible and can be beat but there are just as many ppl who just underrate him and make him look weak and ppl just make threads to make him look bad.

 

[kadowade]

that's false because actually kirin can only destroy a mountain and shinra tensa damage is far greater than that.

LOl where does it say Kirin can ONLY destroy a mountain? lmaoxd

 

[Nidaimerocks]

Re: Itachi is d strongest ninja ever(not includin So6p)

itachi would have last 5 seconds see it shows how much you hate and downplay itachi, he is a top class shinobi and you say he would be killed easily.

Really? You want me to show you what the manga shows Deva doing? Remeber Gamabunta, that summon who fought bijuu?

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. Oh and he had Gamahiro and Gamaken with him. What about the 800 year old legendary sage?

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. And Sage mode Naruto?

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. If Pein had killing itent, he was dead. Maybe we can check the legedandary Kakashi?

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So far legendary ninjas WITHOUT KNOWLEDGE having pawned by banshou tennin. Not one, not two, not three. What is special about Itachi?

i kno that it is a hard fight cos itachi has lregendary weapons and is one of the most inetlligent ppl in naruto and pain is mad powerful and his paths are insane.

Itachi's legendary weapons have a WEAKNESS to Pein's jutsu

If itachi has info then he would stop preta with genjutsu not really that hard.

Listen, we can't keep this up if all you do is repeat the same things and ignore the evidence I provide. Did you read the databook on the weakness of genjutsu?

if deva uses shinra tensei on his paths they would be injured heavily

Really? Did he injure himself

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? He used shira tensei to repea amaterasu

and nakara path can revive not heal from what we have seen and it also takes time and all itachi has to do is use amaterasu on nakara cos all he has to do is see him which is simple.

How many times do I have to repeat myself? Naraka is at the

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of the other paths. Also, Naraka heals and revives. He "repaired" demon realm

sasuke did not outrun it he gets hit and read the next page zetsu says that itachi stopped it so that he would not hurt sasuke's body and eyes, he wasn't even trying to kill him.

How can you say Sasuke did not outrun it when we see Sasuke running and amaterasu following him???????? What the hell does outrunning mean to you. and Zetsu says he stopped amaterasu AFTER it hit Sasuke. However, Sasuke outran amaterasu for a while

sage mode jiraya is not that fast

You have lost credibility after this comment. Can you show PROOF for Itachi being faster than Jiraiya?

and preta was right next to deva so it doesn't even show that he is fast

What are you talking about? Deva was not there when Preta fought Jiraiya

and plus he can get stopped by genjutsu if itachi has prior info.

You keep repeating this. Did you or did not read the databook on genjutsu's weakness?

the patrhs are not fast and can be hit by amaterasu and deva pain would hurt them even more if he does techs on them.

Listen, I provide PROOF for my statements. Can you provide your proof? I gave you proof of Pein using shira tensei without hurting himself. I gave you proof of Pein bodies being stupidly fast in their reaction speed. I gave you proof of amaterasu being outran. Can you provide PROOF???????????????

deva can hit him a few times with shinra tensei but is useless against susano which can be used instantly. and he can get sealed by sword of totsuka which is fast.

You keep repeating yourself

kuchiyose girl is especially slow and was almost hit by rasenshuriken so amaterasu is no problem. Itachi with prior info and healthy as in part 1 would kno how to counter them well it is not impossible, itachi also has the speed advanatge, it is a hard fight but with info itachi can win but still a match that is can go both ways but with info and intelligence itachi can pull it off with high difficulty. you are so ignorant and underplay everything about him and say he won't last long you are clearly underestimating itachi's abilities and intelligence.

OK, you say Itachi is fast where is your PROOF? You say I am ignorant, that is funny coming from a kid like you who keeps repeating the same shit. Show me proof for how fast Itachi is. Show me ONE panel. Don't just repeat the same stuff, read my answers and counter them or do not bother

 

[Volcmike]

LOl where does it say Kirin can ONLY destroy a mountain? lmaoxd

LOL! xd