Sasuke(EMS)vs.The Five Kages

[s0ulja]

sasuke was never really dumb u kno that right he was just in a rush to kill danzo, see his other battles he is not that reckless, and when he uses ems he gains itachi's powers becos madara says that both of the powers of the eyes become together or something like that but here is a link

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And even without dude he used genjutsu on danzo and that guy is not dumb he is very cunning. Itachi lvl genjutsu can't just be repelled by ppl who are smart otherwise shikamaru would be the perfect counter to genjutsu, that is just not right.

say itachi's like the einstein, jus b'cuz som1 is not at that level dusn mean i'm saying that person is dumb...he is reckless when it comes to battle...after facing raikage n using up most of his chakra he goes off to fight danzo when he knows the other kages are there...than tries to pursue danzo thinking the two kages there are just going to sit n watch him do his dance, after danzo's fight he tries to take on kakashi..after one susanoo arrow he cudn even maintain susanoo..and if zetsu and karin werent there to help him along the wai he wud hav been dead..i cal that reckless or really stupid, i think the first one makes more sense.
i thought genjutsu's were cast with the mind, i.e more inteligent u are, the illusion u create seems more real, the best example i can think of is the movie inception...he wasn after the architect that was coming first in class..he was after the best and the brightest

 

[arv993]

say itachi's like the einstein, jus b'cuz som1 is not at that level dusn mean i'm saying that person is dumb...he is reckless when it comes to battle...after facing raikage n using up most of his chakra he goes off to fight danzo when he knows the other kages are there...than tries to pursue danzo thinking the two kages there are just going to sit n watch him do his dance, after danzo's fight he tries to take on kakashi..after one susanoo arrow he cudn even maintain susanoo..and if zetsu and karin werent there to help him along the wai he wud hav been dead..i cal that reckless or really stupid, i think the first one makes more sense.
i thought genjutsu's were cast with the mind, i.e more inteligent u are, the illusion u create seems more real, the best example i can think of is the movie inception...he wasn after the architect that was coming first in class..he was after the best and the brightest

yes he is reckless but that was becos his sole mission was to kill danzo, he is not always that reckless. And dude this is naruto not inception smart ppl can get smart in genjutsu and here is an example, kakashi(5 in intelligence in the databook) got caught in genjutsu, danzo is really cunning and smart got caught in genjutsu, oro an evil guy who is smart as hell and makes a lot of experiments trying to gain power and stuff got caught in genjutsu, hiruzen also a kage who is reasonably smart got caught in genjutsu. This is an anime anyone can get caught in genjutsu even in weak ones depending on how the user uses it.

 

[Rafeal brown]

i never said he was weak..i said his cockiness+inexperience would be his downfall
the reason for my point about them being kages...genjutsu works best against people with low intelligence and/or will, a kage would be strong in both of those...plus jus b'cuz itachi's eyes dusn mean he gets itachi's skills...the power of the genjutsu is dependent of the user's intelligence..here suske def dusn compare to itachi.
also as u may kno, power isnt everything in battle...a gud head is also needed to win(back to my first line)

Why is it hard for you to admit that sasuke can defeat the kages one on one? Saying genjutsu won't work bcuz they are kages is senseless, we have seen how kage level ninja's fall easily for genjutsu e.g oro(who is a kage level ninja) was defeated with a 3 tamoe genjutsu: DEMONIC ILLUSTION OF THE SHACKLING STAKES deidara(who is also a kage level ninja) would've killed himself or should i say was fooled by the same 3 tamoe sharingan, danzou fall prey for it as well moreover its been stated that tskuyomi is indespelable for a non-sharingan user which all of the kages lack, so yes sasuke can outclass any kage level ninja in genjutsu(just one week ago tskuyomi was the strongest genjutsu but know its kotoamatskuami) tskuyomi is unbeatable even for a kage. So yes sasuke's can own any kage with tskuyomi.

 

[arv993]

Why is it hard for you to admit that sasuke can defeat the kages one on one? Saying genjutsu won't work bcuz they are kages is senseless, we have seen how kage level ninja's fall easily for genjutsu e.g oro(who is a kage level ninja) was defeated with a 3 tamoe genjutsu: DEMONIC ILLUSTION OF THE SHACKLING STAKES deidara(who is also a kage level ninja) would've killed himself or should i say was fooled by the same 3 tamoe sharingan, danzou fall prey for it as well moreover its been stated that tskuyomi is indespelable for a non-sharingan user which all of the kages lack, so yes sasuke can outclass any kage level ninja in genjutsu(just one week ago tskuyomi was the strongest genjutsu but know its kotoamatskuami) tskuyomi is unbeatable even for a kage. So yes sasuke's can own any kage with tskuyomi.

agree with you and i also gave the same examples like you gave but he also thinks the smart ppl can't fall in genjutsu and uses inception as an example.

 

[s0ulja]

yes he is reckless but that was becos his sole mission was to kill danzo, he is not always that reckless. And dude this is naruto not inception smart ppl can get smart in genjutsu and here is an example, kakashi(5 in intelligence in the databook) got caught in genjutsu, danzo is really cunning and smart got caught in genjutsu, oro an evil guy who is smart as hell and makes a lot of experiments trying to gain power and stuff got caught in genjutsu, hiruzen also a kage who is reasonably smart got caught in genjutsu. This is an anime anyone can get caught in genjutsu even in weak ones depending on how the user uses it.

his not reckless? r u serious? ...he was careful to scan out the security measures before going in to the kage summit but not inside...what u call dat? genjutsu is only as strong as the user's inteligence..i.e. dusn matter how hard naruto works at genjutsu he will not be good at it, that is why his character dusn use it..if u seriousli comparing itachi's inteligence to suske's than u've reali need to re-read the manga ...u want proof, jus read ch550...and the reason kakashi was so vulnerable to itachi's genjutsu was cuz he sharigan was implanted...regardless itachi's intelligence surpasses that of kakashi's anwai...so compare whos casting it and who its being cast on..not jus one side

Why is it hard for you to admit that sasuke can defeat the kages one on one? Saying genjutsu won't work bcuz they are kages is senseless, we have seen how kage level ninja's fall easily for genjutsu e.g oro(who is a kage level ninja) was defeated with a 3 tamoe genjutsu: DEMONIC ILLUSTION OF THE SHACKLING STAKES deidara(who is also a kage level ninja) would've killed himself or should i say was fooled by the same 3 tamoe sharingan, danzou fall prey for it as well moreover its been stated that tskuyomi is indespelable for a non-sharingan user which all of the kages lack, so yes sasuke can outclass any kage level ninja in genjutsu(just one week ago tskuyomi was the strongest genjutsu but know its kotoamatskuami) tskuyomi is unbeatable even for a kage. So yes sasuke's can own any kage with tskuyomi.

and why is it hard for u to admit the kage's CAN (not WILL) win. as i said above...genutsu's are only as strong as the one casting it. and since when did s-class = kage? oro had the potential to be kage level..he threw that all away when he started relying on other peoples strength to make himself powerful. even tobi/madara said suske's tskuyomi dusn compare to itachi's

agree with you and i also gave the same examples like you gave but he also thinks the smart ppl can't fall in genjutsu and uses inception as an example.

stop pullin s**t out of ur ass..when did i say that?

 

[Ame no kage]

5 kages would win, dont know the capabilities of sasuke's EMS, and to many people basing there decisions on the 5 kage summit battle, face it, with out madara intervening when onoki was using his jutsu, he would of died the end of story.

 

[arv993]

his not reckless? r u serious? ...he was careful to scan out the security measures before going in to the kage summit but not inside...what u call dat? genjutsu is only as strong as the user's inteligence..i.e. dusn matter how hard naruto works at genjutsu he will not be good at it, that is why his character dusn use it..if u seriousli comparing itachi's inteligence to suske's than u've reali need to re-read the manga ...u want proof, jus read ch550...and the reason kakashi was so vulnerable to itachi's genjutsu was cuz he sharigan was implanted...regardless itachi's intelligence surpasses that of kakashi's anwai...so compare whos casting it and who its being cast on..not jus one side



and why is it hard for u to admit the kage's CAN (not WILL) win. as i said above...genutsu's are only as strong as the one casting it. and since when did s-class = kage? oro had the potential to be kage level..he threw that all away when he started relying on other peoples strength to make himself powerful. even tobi/madara said suske's tskuyomi dusn compare to itachi's

stop pullin s**t out of ur ass..when did i say that?

First of all you did use inception as an example comparing it to genjutsu don't even lie about that i don't really care about it but it was a bad example. And what about Danzo he got caught in genjutsu(he is not stupid but is smart and kept the village strong and eliminated his enemies), orochimaru got caught also(he is smart, made a lot of experiments and created yamato and created edo tensei). These ppl i mentioned are smarter especially orochimaru are smarter than the other kages. And both of them are kage lvl. And what the hell are you talking about him having a sharingan helps him be more resistant to genjutsu and even fell to tsukiyomi, how in the hell are ppl without sharingan gonna break and they don't have tailed beasts either. Sasuke is not smart as itachi but still is decent and can get ppl in genjutsu especially after he gets ems his powers get better after ems becos he would get tachi's abilitites, he still got strong ppl in genjustu like oro and danzo and madara even says that it doe not matter how weak the genjutsu is but how you use it is more important and says that ssuke used his genjutsu well against danzo. BTW sasuke is good at genjutsu but just not as good as itachi. He has a 4 in the databook which is pretty good and can definitely get kages.

 

[s0ulja]

First of all you did use inception as an example comparing it to genjutsu don't even lie about that i don't really care about it but it was a bad example. And what about Danzo he got caught in genjutsu(he is not stupid but is smart and kept the village strong and eliminated his enemies), orochimaru got caught also(he is smart, made a lot of experiments and created yamato and created edo tensei). These ppl i mentioned are smarter especially orochimaru are smarter than the other kages. And both of them are kage lvl. And what the hell are you talking about him having a sharingan helps him be more resistant to genjutsu and even fell to tsukiyomi, how in the hell are ppl without sharingan gonna break and they don't have tailed beasts either. Sasuke is not smart as itachi but still is decent and can get ppl in genjutsu especially after he gets ems his powers get better after ems becos he would get tachi's abilitites, he still got strong ppl in genjustu like oro and danzo and madara even says that it doe not matter how weak the genjutsu is but how you use it is more important and says that ssuke used his genjutsu well against danzo. BTW sasuke is good at genjutsu but just not as good as itachi. He has a 4 in the databook which is pretty good and can definitely get kages.

yes i did compare it to inception, how does that say smart people cant fall under genjutsu? :flaw:
and if u cant see the similarities btwn inception and genjutsu then go read how genjutsu works.
the onli one from ur examples i recall is danzo's..and the reason for his genjutsu there was to see if his vulnerable to it, how much damage did it do? none...it was to see if it would work later and the only reason it worked is b'cuz danzo wasn aware of how mani eyes he had left since he is neither a senju or uchiha. as far as i am aware all the kages rely on their own powers. so thats a shitty example...yes the examples u list consist of smart individuals..but being smart and being intelligent isnt the same thing..go read up on the difference. also the databook isnt all that accurate, each category is limited to 5 and a maximum total of 40. this dusn provide enough information. e.g kakashi scores a 34.5, oro 35, jiraiya 35.5..u seriousli telling me these ninjas are only seperated by 0.5 points? in a fight these stats mean very little. and gaara has a higher stat than naruto, yet naruto defeated gaara...i'm done with ur pathetic examples, maybe it could be down to ur lack of understanding but for future reference don't jump to false assumptions

 

[arv993]

yes i did compare it to inception, how does that say smart people cant fall under genjutsu? :flaw:
and if u cant see the similarities btwn inception and genjutsu then go read how genjutsu works.
the onli one from ur examples i recall is danzo's..and the reason for his genjutsu there was to see if his vulnerable to it, how much damage did it do? none...it was to see if it would work later and the only reason it worked is b'cuz danzo wasn aware of how mani eyes he had left since he is neither a senju or uchiha. as far as i am aware all the kages rely on their own powers. so thats a shitty example...yes the examples u list consist of smart individuals..but being smart and being intelligent isnt the same thing..go read up on the difference. also the databook isnt all that accurate, each category is limited to 5 and a maximum total of 40. this dusn provide enough information. e.g kakashi scores a 34.5, oro 35, jiraiya 35.5..u seriousli telling me these ninjas are only seperated by 0.5 points? in a fight these stats mean very little. and gaara has a higher stat than naruto, yet naruto defeated gaara...i'm done with ur pathetic examples, maybe it could be down to ur lack of understanding but for future reference don't jump to false assumptions

I just gave databook as secondary examples and you are right it does not say who is stronger or not but it tells you how talented ppl are at each of the categories. Talent isn't always equal to who is strongest but you still have to admit that all the ppl i said were smart and right now you just don't have anything to say becos all the ninja i mentioned were top tier what about these kages do you think really makes them immune to genjutsu, instead you talk about how i give bad examples tell me a valid reason it doesn't work, see things like bee's case or sasuke's case makes sense, one has the ms and can beat genjutsu techs, another has a tailed beast who takes him out of it , as far as i have seen the other kages don't seem to be geniuses or have anything really to defend them self against genjutsu on itachi's lvl. I am not jumping to a conclusion but just asking a valid question(how can they go up against genjutsu of high levels) in which you are making up bs about being smart would make you immune. And now you are saying that smart is different from intelligent then let me ask you a question what makes you think they are really smart which you don't have any proof for becos we don't hav much info on them and to be honest it doesn't protect them from genjutsu.

 

[s0ulja]

I just gave databook as secondary examples and you are right it does not say who is stronger or not but it tells you how talented ppl are at each of the categories. Talent isn't always equal to who is strongest but you still have to admit that all the ppl i said were smart and right now you just don't have anything to say becos all the ninja i mentioned were top tier what about these kages do you think really makes them immune to genjutsu, instead you talk about how i give bad examples tell me a valid reason it doesn't work, see things like bee's case or sasuke's case makes sense, one has the ms and can beat genjutsu techs, another has a tailed beast who takes him out of it , as far as i have seen the other kages don't seem to be geniuses or have anything really to defend them self against genjutsu on itachi's lvl. I am not jumping to a conclusion but just asking a valid question(how can they go up against genjutsu of high levels) in which you are making up bs about being smart would make you immune. And now you are saying that smart is different from intelligent then let me ask you a question what makes you think they are really smart which you don't have any proof for becos we don't hav much info on them and to be honest it doesn't protect them from genjutsu.

there u go again makin false assumptions..i didn not say they were immune, i said suske is nowhere near the level of itachi hence his genjutsu will not be nowhre near as effective, he didn use genjutsu against danzo to do damage..he used it to take advantage of the fact danzo had to chek how mani eyes he had left...the kages dont have that prob..seriousli dude!
i'm struggling to not insult u in these responses

 

[arv993]

there u go again makin false assumptions..i didn not say they were immune, i said suske is nowhere near the level of itachi hence his genjutsu will not be nowhre near as effective, he didn use genjutsu against danzo to do damage..he used it to take advantage of the fact danzo had to chek how mani eyes he had left...the kages dont have that prob..seriousli dude!
i'm struggling to not insult u in these responses

i told you his genjutsu gets better becos of ems( he has itachi's eyes) and it is said that the ems would make the light stronger within the eys or something like that is said in the manga and he gains the powers of itachi, and what about oro he got him in genjutsu and not mention you saying that danzo checking his hands if he has the eyes or not and that is the only reason his genjutsu worked makes no sense. he got bee in genjutsu also and the only reason he got out is becos of his beast and the other two ppl i mentioned are also kage lvl so what makes the other kages "probably" not get in genjutsu. And another one is sasuke got shee a spevialist in genjutsu so idk why you are saying ir would unlikely to work on the kages.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

No sasuke can't beat the Raikage, Tsuchikage,or the Mizukage 1 on 1. He definitely can't beat them altogether, come on be serious.

he said with EMS he could destroy any 1 of them 1 on 1 with EMS

 

[kotoamatsukami]

o an sasuke wih EMS is stronger dan itachi

 

[s0ulja]

i told you his genjutsu gets better becos of ems( he has itachi's eyes) and it is said that the ems would make the light stronger within the eys or something like that is said in the manga and he gains the powers of itachi, and what about oro he got him in genjutsu and not mention you saying that danzo checking his hands if he has the eyes or not and that is the only reason his genjutsu worked makes no sense. he got bee in genjutsu also and the only reason he got out is becos of his beast and the other two ppl i mentioned are also kage lvl so what makes the other kages "probably" not get in genjutsu. And another one is sasuke got shee a spevialist in genjutsu so idk why you are saying ir would unlikely to work on the kages.

u dont know how much itachi's eyes will improve suske's genjutsu..as far as how genjutsu's work it is dependent on the user's inteligence...if dnazo didn have to chek how mani eyes were remaining the two genjutsu's he used serve no purpose..so actuali ti dus make sense...and no they were not kage level, besides oro..but we dont even know where the real oro is since his been switching bodies for god knows how long...its not whether they will fall in the genjutsu or not..it how much damage it wil do in a battle..shee is a sensor, probabli same level as karin nowhere near a kage's level so i duno why ur putin that in

 

[Rafeal brown]

u dont know how much itachi's eyes will improve suske's genjutsu..as far as how genjutsu's work it is dependent on the user's inteligence...if dnazo didn have to chek how mani eyes were remaining the two genjutsu's he used serve no purpose..so actuali ti dus make sense...and no they were not kage level, besides oro..but we dont even know where the real oro is since his been switching bodies for god knows how long...its not whether they will fall in the genjutsu or not..it how much damage it wil do in a battle..shee is a sensor, probabli same level as karin nowhere near a kage's level so i duno why ur putin that in

Sasuke already said he can feel itachi's powers flowing throu him so its save to assume he has itachi's powers(genjutsu is not an exception) sasuke has shown to be intelligent in the use of genjutsu(against deidara and danzo) in fact the uchiha clan in general are highly skilled and specializes in genjutsu, if u are a true fan of this manga you should knw that sasuke was designed to be a better itachi/shisui. Deidara is a kage level ninja Tsuchikage was suprised that sasuke defeated deidara, deidara defeated gaara who is a kage so idk why you fink he is not a kage level ninja atleast he is stronger than tsunade and defeated a kage with just one bag of clay, even deidara was suprised itachi fooled him that easily he marveled at itachi's powers (sasuke used genjutsu cleverly against deidara but didn't fool him bcuz he trained his left eye to recongnize genjutsu so he won't fall prey for it again) besides sasuke can still win w/o genjutsu kirin, amaterasu, susanoo and ems 4th jutsu is enough to bring a kage down.

 

[kadowade]

i hate how they gonna make Naruto pass Jiraiya & the 4th Hokage
And make Sasuke pass Itachi & Shusui -_-

 

[Klubargutan]

He would win all of them one by one. But them all tohether, even Sasuke can't handle them.

naruto or madara can

 

[arv993]

u dont know how much itachi's eyes will improve suske's genjutsu..as far as how genjutsu's work it is dependent on the user's inteligence...if dnazo didn have to chek how mani eyes were remaining the two genjutsu's he used serve no purpose..so actuali ti dus make sense...and no they were not kage level, besides oro..but we dont even know where the real oro is since his been switching bodies for god knows how long...its not whether they will fall in the genjutsu or not..it how much damage it wil do in a battle..shee is a sensor, probabli same level as karin nowhere near a kage's level so i duno why ur putin that in

First of all sasuke is smart he showed that in his fight against danzo and deidara and both are kage lvl. you think bee is not kage lvl then you my friend go read the manga again, bee is stronger than any kage you can put him against except for maybe oonoki but even that bee probably wins. he used genjutsu against deidara also who is kage lvl and one of the strongest ninja in iwagakure and he also outsmarted him and made him resort to his ultimate bomb. And dude he also put a high lvl summoning manda in genjutsu it should show you that he is proficient at genjutsu. You saying that he is bad genjutsu have no proof and even madara says sasuke though not amazing at genjutsu still knows how to use it well. Just accept it dude there is no point in arguing becos you have no effective arguments that proves that he is really bad at genjutsu and that it is likely not going to work against kage lvl ninja and when sasuke in the manga has already has shown that it has worked against kage lvl ninja.

 

[Uzumaki Sasuke]

5 Kages

 

[Rafeal brown]

The whole point of sasuke fighting the kages was bcuz madara wanted ms sasuke to weaken all the five kages then take them hostage. So if ms sasuke can weaken the five kages then ems sasuke can kill them.